Sal what are the longterm Caly plans?

[DougC-3]

Glad to hear that there's a possibility that things will work out in the future. I think a great starting piece would be a HAP40 Caly 3 in black CF with black clip. I'd be happy with the current polished CF, which is a tiny bit thinner than the G-10.

[farnorthdan]

I'd like to see a 3.5 HAP40 Caly with burnt orange G10 and a deep carry wire clip, this would be the cherry on the top of the HAP40 series

[Surfingringo]

It's kind of up on the air at this time. We've been having some problems with the maker and some quality issues. We're still working with them trying to get it sorted.

sal

I have a bit different perspective than some. I would just as soon see you guys let the old Caly pass to dust and create a brand new model in Golden that incorporates all of the best features of the Caly in a completely new design. I appreciate the evolution that is always evident in Spyderco knives. So much so that it makes it easy not to get attached to the oldies. After hanging around here a few years I have the utmost faith that there is always something better just around the corner.

[Liquid Cobra]

It's kind of up on the air at this time. We've been having some problems with the maker and some quality issues. We're still working with them trying to get it sorted.

sal

I have a bit different perspective than some. I would just as soon see you guys let the old Caly pass to dust and create a brand new model in Golden that incorporates all of the best features of the Caly in a completely new design. I appreciate the evolution that is always evident in Spyderco knives. So much so that it makes it easy not to get attached to the oldies. After hanging around here a few years I have the utmost faith that there is always something better just around the corner.

I like this idea too. But people have a special love for the Caly. What about moving production to a factory in Taichung? Either way sounds good to me.

[awa54]

I really dig the proportions and ergonomics of the Caly/UK pen pattern, so losing all but the FRN version from the lineup would be a bummer for me. Though I already have a Ti UK and a Caly 3, so short of losing or breaking mine *I'm* all set.

I'm with Lance on the idea of making a new refinement of the design in the US if it comes to that, imagine the Native 5 lock geometry in a Caly!

[elena86]

It's kind of up on the air at this time. We've been having some problems with the maker and some quality issues. We're still working with them trying to get it sorted.

sal

I have a bit different perspective than some. I would just as soon see you guys let the old Caly pass to dust and create a brand new model in Golden that incorporates all of the best features of the Caly in a completely new design. I appreciate the evolution that is always evident in Spyderco knives. So much so that it makes it easy not to get attached to the oldies. After hanging around here a few years I have the utmost faith that there is always something better just around the corner.

I like this idea too. But people have a special love for the Caly. What about moving production to a factory in Taichung? Either way sounds good to me.

The Caly design is brilliant IMHO.It only needs a slightly deeper finger choil.Special love for the Caly ?! You bet ! Moving production to Taichung ? Music to my ears, that's what it is :cool: Stronger improved back lock ? Even better :spyder:

[D1omedes]

+1 for the Caly. :)

The Caly 3 and Caly 3.5 are my favorite Spyderco models, period. I was really sad to see the 3.5 in VG10 phase out. I sincerely hope that Sal and Co. can find a way to improve things with the maker in Seki and get QC where it is desired.

I am curious about something, however. If there is a point of no return, where Spyderco's goals will not be met for the foreseeable future, does that mean the model is dead and gone? I truly hope that such a scenario does not play out for the Caly. The model is too good to sit in the dust bin waiting for the original maker to undergo needed change.

[SpeedHoles]

Moki-san no shokunin ganbatte kudasai!

[bh49]

I know it probably won't happen, but I'd give about anything to see a Caly sprint with smooth black Micarta.

I will take even smooth G10. Countered will be icing on the cake.

[bh49]

It's kind of up on the air at this time. We've been having some problems with the maker and some quality issues. We're still working with them trying to get it sorted.

sal

There is an easy solution to fix quality problems at supplier: please bring it in house, made Calys in Golden :) :p . UKPK is already made there and Spyderco will be able to make the great family of knives with variety of American steels

[Liquid Cobra]

+1 for the Caly. :)

The Caly 3 and Caly 3.5 are my favorite Spyderco models, period. I was really sad to see the 3.5 in VG10 phase out. I sincerely hope that Sal and Co. can find a way to improve things with the maker in Seki and get QC where it is desired.

I am curious about something, however. If there is a point of no return, where Spyderco's goals will not be met for the foreseeable future, does that mean the model is dead and gone? I truly hope that such a scenario does not play out for the Caly. The model is too good to sit in the dust bin waiting for the original maker to undergo needed change.

Lots of models come back from the dead. Sometimes it's just about patiently waiting for that to happen. Easier said than done!

[sal]

We've been working with the maker for 27 years. We'll continue.

sal

[bh49]

+1 for the Caly. :)

The Caly 3 and Caly 3.5 are my favorite Spyderco models, period. I was really sad to see the 3.5 in VG10 phase out. I sincerely hope that Sal and Co. can find a way to improve things with the maker in Seki and get QC where it is desired.

Caly3 and Caly3.5 are among my very favorite knives as well. I was totally heart broken, when Caly3 got discontinued. When the same happened with Caly3.5, I was ready and had couple back-up, just in case, if I will ever need. Feel sorry for people, who will not be able to experience these knives though.
Working in manufacturing I know from my own experience, what it is not easy and sometimes even not possible to improve quality at supplier, especially, when top management changed. Even, when supplier is next door company. Seki is oversees. I believe this is what happened with Moki. Old generation of the family retired and new took over.

I am curious about something, however. If there is a point of no return, where Spyderco's goals will not be met for the foreseeable future, does that mean the model is dead and gone? I truly hope that such a scenario does not play out for the Caly. The model is too good to sit in the dust bin waiting for the original maker to undergo needed change.

+1
It will be absolute shame, if Caly family will go away for good. I have the faith in Sal and Eric that they will not let this happen.

[wrdwrght]

All this talk of phasing-out Calypsos sent me to my safe to get my SB Caly 3.5 (I also have a couple of UKPKs for travel purposes, but prefer a locking knife) in order to remind myself why I like it.

I was on the verge of getting the VG10 Caly 3.5 just before it was disco'd, but other Spydies jumped in to take my money. Now the VG10 (a steel I really like) is a rare fish, and still other Spydies are making claims on my money.

And that is the problem with the Caly for me.

I think the Caly series is inspired. Its not-too-wide housing and wire clip give the impression of a knife that is delicate, but that's only in appearance. And there's something about its angle of attack that promotes its slicing qualities. An image of most knife with least means leaps to mind when I fondle it.

Trouble is, I like Manix2s, PM2s, Stretch2s, and Native5s more, and they keep coming out in new materials that I want.

Perhaps Caly production in Golden would allow for a broader offering of steels, at least.

[Donut]

Hopefully the only problems you're having is that they're making stuff TOO good. :)

The only negative things I've heard of Moki was the lack of a laser to cut the holes, which lead the Caly to need a laminated blade. Also, the detent mis-aligning on the Starmate.

The Super Blue Caly 3 and 3.5 are super high demand models and an ode to the quality product that they make.

[SpeedHoles]

Hopefully the only problems you're having is that they're making stuff TOO good. :)

The only negative things I've heard of Moki was the lack of a laser to cut the holes, which lead the Caly to need a laminated blade. Also, the detent mis-aligning on the Starmate.

The Super Blue Caly 3 and 3.5 are super high demand models and an ode to the quality product that they make.

I never understood why the Super Blue Caly wasn't laminated, though?


And I also really enjoy my Al Mar knives from Moki, as well...

[twinboysdad]

We've been working with the maker for 27 years. We'll continue.

sal

This I don't understand...they are having issues producing a cult like knife, but we will keep the design there? What is the most disappointing part of this is that the Japanese are so fickle about imported steel. This model deserves to be in the line up and deserves the same steels the PM2, Native, and Manix get. Golden would be a dream, but Taichung would be 2nd if the current maker could not get their s#!+ together and make the knife right.

[bh49]

The only negative things I've heard of Moki was the lack of a laser to cut the holes, which lead the Caly to need a laminated blade. Also, the detent mis-aligning on the Starmate.

there were few more comments/observations about Moki. Gritty actions on Calys within last few years. Also Kopas, Moki had no desire to work with scale materials, which Spyderco wanted. I am not sure, considering 2015 discontinued list, what Moki is making for Spyderco now, except CF Caly 3.5 and may be Kiwi2.

[NoFair]

Make something like the 3.5 in the US with a liner lock I have one of each so no hurry Sal.

[bearfacedkiller]

The only negative things I've heard of Moki was the lack of a laser to cut the holes, which lead the Caly to need a laminated blade. Also, the detent mis-aligning on the Starmate.

there were few more comments/observations about Moki. Gritty actions on Calys within last few years. Also Kopas, Moki had no desire to work with scale materials, which Spyderco wanted. I am not sure, considering 2015 discontinued list, what Moki is making for Spyderco now, except CF Caly 3.5 and may be Kiwi2.

Besides the Kiwi4 and Caly3.5CF I think some of the fixed blades are made by Moki but am not sure which ones.

There were complaints about lock rock too.