I'm another guy who doesn't see the appeal to the Sebenza (A big part of that is not liking metal handles). Good knife, sure. Just not my cup of tea. The Mnandi, now, with the right wood scales, is a gorgeous little knife and someday I'll probably buy one.
I remember seeing a post by Sal saying that if Spyderco made a knife to the same tolerances and quality as CRK's, it'd cost the same...
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When I first got my small Sebenza 21 I thought, " OMG I spent $400 on this"?!
I got over that pretty quick once I started using it.
I find that I get the most satisfaction from my Sebbie when I just whip it out and cut something with it. Not even thinking about wether or not it was worth the cost or if I like the knife.
As long as I just use it and don't try to analyze it, I find myself thinking "Yeah, this thing is pretty sweet".
That's good enough for me.
I got over that pretty quick once I started using it.
I find that I get the most satisfaction from my Sebbie when I just whip it out and cut something with it. Not even thinking about wether or not it was worth the cost or if I like the knife.
As long as I just use it and don't try to analyze it, I find myself thinking "Yeah, this thing is pretty sweet".
That's good enough for me.
Rick T.
I like Chris Reeve knives alot! I think that the f&f, quality, ergos, precision, and craftsmanship is very similar to Spyderco :cool:
I own a small Sebenza 21/LH, and a Umnumzaan, and though expensive...worth every penny in my opinion!
In my experience, after taking a production knife apart, and putting it back together, it's never the same; Not to mention, with most production companies, doing so voids the warentee.
Doing so with CRK's(which he encourages), after it's put back together, and very easy to do, it is perfect, and feels, locks, and performs as it did NIB...PERFECT!
Also, speaking of the Sebenza, a few notables: 1)I noticed I had blade play(horizontal) after taking it apart, and I know I had ZERO out of the box, and all other times I'd taken it apart; long story short, I took it apart again, and turned the pivot bushing around, put it back together, and zero blade play.
2)Yet another "take down", I had extreme wobble in all directions; Another long story short...the stop pin has a sleeve that goes over the stop pin tube, and it fell out, and it did'nt take me long to figure out it went somewhere on this knife.
So, just a couple of things that I find interesting. Don't get me wrong, I love Spyderco, and they've always been my favorite...just my honest opinion :) Hope I didn't affend anyone :o
John
I own a small Sebenza 21/LH, and a Umnumzaan, and though expensive...worth every penny in my opinion!
In my experience, after taking a production knife apart, and putting it back together, it's never the same; Not to mention, with most production companies, doing so voids the warentee.
Doing so with CRK's(which he encourages), after it's put back together, and very easy to do, it is perfect, and feels, locks, and performs as it did NIB...PERFECT!
Also, speaking of the Sebenza, a few notables: 1)I noticed I had blade play(horizontal) after taking it apart, and I know I had ZERO out of the box, and all other times I'd taken it apart; long story short, I took it apart again, and turned the pivot bushing around, put it back together, and zero blade play.
2)Yet another "take down", I had extreme wobble in all directions; Another long story short...the stop pin has a sleeve that goes over the stop pin tube, and it fell out, and it did'nt take me long to figure out it went somewhere on this knife.
So, just a couple of things that I find interesting. Don't get me wrong, I love Spyderco, and they've always been my favorite...just my honest opinion :) Hope I didn't affend anyone :o
John
:spyder: :spyder: :cool: :spyder: :spyder: "Spyderco...does a pocket good":spyder:
Spyderco Rocks!!!! "A wise man once said all knives were created equal...Obviously, he meant Spydercos''
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Spyderco Rocks!!!! "A wise man once said all knives were created equal...Obviously, he meant Spydercos''
As of 1-29-08, I am a proud member of Knife Rights!
To be honest, most companies are pushing $250 or more for a similar knife made in the USA. The MSRP on a Ti Military is roughly $350. Which is actually just a hair under what I paid for my Sebenza. Also consider that CRK knives sell at MSRP. So the, "these things are too expensive" is really not founded when you consider the realities.
Also consider that the Sebenza is an icon. It is a knife for ages, it is the knife that introduced the world to the "frame lock."
It is a simple knife, in reality. That is the beauty of the knife.
Is it worth $350 or more? That is up to you. Will a $100 knife cut as good? Maybe. But you certainly are not being ripped off for your knife money.
It is like a Strider knife. You can buy one for $500. Use it for a year, throw it off a cliff, run over it with a tank, several time.. And then sell if for $480, and the buyer will be thrilled with it.
If you don't like your Sebenza, then you can always sell it for pretty much what you paid for. Hard to say that for many knives.
Also consider that the Sebenza is an icon. It is a knife for ages, it is the knife that introduced the world to the "frame lock."
It is a simple knife, in reality. That is the beauty of the knife.
Is it worth $350 or more? That is up to you. Will a $100 knife cut as good? Maybe. But you certainly are not being ripped off for your knife money.
It is like a Strider knife. You can buy one for $500. Use it for a year, throw it off a cliff, run over it with a tank, several time.. And then sell if for $480, and the buyer will be thrilled with it.
If you don't like your Sebenza, then you can always sell it for pretty much what you paid for. Hard to say that for many knives.
MCM wrote:To each his own.....
I have an older BG-42 Lg user that I would not trade for anything.
And still compare it to everything.
Cant think of too many that match its soul... :D
Its a simple masterpiece IMO.
A machined marvel, with a killer blade/grind.
Sharp as heck, and stays sharp.
Not flashy, or even very noticeable.
Just a prefect mid sized folder.
Only have one, as that's all I need.
Funny as I need 100 Spyderco's, BM's & MT's.
Kinda says something. Just not sure what. LOL LOL
I am with MCM. Haven't found a better folding knife.
Speaking about ergo complaints, the BG-42 and 21 have a little different ergos in my opinion. The newer 21 sits a bit deeper in your index and makes it a **** of a lot more comfortable. (At least for me that is.. and I have a decent sized hand.)
The cool thing about Sebenzas are you're encouraged to take it apart to clean it etc and it won't void the warranty. They have a full manual with pictures online to teach you too! With such availability to meticulous maintenance, your knife can seriously go a long way.
Big +1!markg wrote:To be honest, most companies are pushing $250 or more for a similar knife made in the USA. The MSRP on a Ti Military is roughly $350. Which is actually just a hair under what I paid for my Sebenza. Also consider that CRK knives sell at MSRP. So the, "these things are too expensive" is really not founded when you consider the realities.
Also consider that the Sebenza is an icon. It is a knife for ages, it is the knife that introduced the world to the "frame lock."
It is a simple knife, in reality. That is the beauty of the knife.
Is it worth $350 or more? That is up to you. Will a $100 knife cut as good? Maybe. But you certainly are not being ripped off for your knife money.
It is like a Strider knife. You can buy one for $500. Use it for a year, throw it off a cliff, run over it with a tank, several time.. And then sell if for $480, and the buyer will be thrilled with it.
If you don't like your Sebenza, then you can always sell it for pretty much what you paid for. Hard to say that for many knives.
The cool thing about Sebenzas are you're encouraged to take it apart to clean it etc and it won't void the warranty. They have a full manual with pictures online to teach you too! With such availability to meticulous maintenance, your knife can seriously go a long way.