Sorry Thom, the liner is a full skeleonized liner, it's not nested.thombrogan wrote:Plus that sweet nested Compression Lock.
Is is a sweet piece though, in my opinion.
It seems that it took a long time to talk me into it.
sal
Now's the time: For a New Hawkbill!!!
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Wellll !
No show this week for me , maybe next week I HOPE ! This waiting is killing me for the Superhawk . I am miserable ! Regards MG2
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Some folks are happy so long as a lock is well made and reliable. Totally understandable.bladese97 wrote:Pssss....How could I forget that
Nomenclature flub on my part. More will happen. I just meant it wasn't an integral (despite being nearly the same due to being on a full liner...).sal wrote:Sorry Thom, the liner is a full skeleonized liner, it's not nested.
With the Harpy and Tasman Salt already in production and the price-tag and market uncertainty associated with a 'dream knife' of unusual blade shape, I'm just psyched it's available at all.sal wrote:Is is a sweet piece though, in my opinion.
It seems that it took a long time to talk me into it.
Thanks for humoring Fozzy, Hawkbill, The General, JD_Spydo, Dr. Lecter, and myself back in the day and thanks for letting us bend your ear to such a degree.
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"Ah-ha! A Spyderco moment!" ~Michael Cook
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Holy canolis, my Superhawk is here!
The wait is over and hawkbill greatness has been the reward!
While the new screw housing for the pocketclip has caused some problems, it doesn't require two Torx drivers. Really dig it.
The dual full liners are bliss (bliss needs minor chamferring) and the Compression Lock (best lock EVER!) is perfect.
The action? You couldn't action this smooth with oiled glass.
The handle is very substantial without being bulky.
It is such a perfect knife.
Makes me want a carbon-fiber scaled Seki-made Dodo (VG-10, H1, ZDP-189, SKD-11; it's all good; just make it in Seki!) a whole lot as its beaky lil brother.
That's how perfect it is - no need for improvement, just companionship.
Bravo, Spyderco! You nailed this one!
The wait is over and hawkbill greatness has been the reward!
While the new screw housing for the pocketclip has caused some problems, it doesn't require two Torx drivers. Really dig it.
The dual full liners are bliss (bliss needs minor chamferring) and the Compression Lock (best lock EVER!) is perfect.
The action? You couldn't action this smooth with oiled glass.
The handle is very substantial without being bulky.
It is such a perfect knife.
Makes me want a carbon-fiber scaled Seki-made Dodo (VG-10, H1, ZDP-189, SKD-11; it's all good; just make it in Seki!) a whole lot as its beaky lil brother.
That's how perfect it is - no need for improvement, just companionship.
Bravo, Spyderco! You nailed this one!
"I knew you before you knew you had hands!" ~Tracey Brogan
"Ah-ha! A Spyderco moment!" ~Michael Cook
"Hawkbills - Sink in the tip and let it rip!" ~Axlis
"I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers which can't be questioned" ~Richard Feynman
"Ah-ha! A Spyderco moment!" ~Michael Cook
"Hawkbills - Sink in the tip and let it rip!" ~Axlis
"I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers which can't be questioned" ~Richard Feynman
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I totally agree; even if the screws nailed me :eek:thombrogan wrote:Holy canolis, my Superhawk is here!
The wait is over and hawkbill greatness has been the reward!
While the new screw housing for the pocketclip has caused some problems, it doesn't require two Torx drivers. Really dig it.
The dual full liners are bliss (bliss needs minor chamferring) and the Compression Lock (best lock EVER!) is perfect.
The action? You couldn't action this smooth with oiled glass.
The handle is very substantial without being bulky.
It is such a perfect knife.
Makes me want a carbon-fiber scaled Seki-made Dodo (VG-10, H1, ZDP-189, SKD-11; it's all good; just make it in Seki!) a whole lot as its beaky lil brother.
That's how perfect it is - no need for improvement, just companionship.
Bravo, Spyderco! You nailed this one!
Pedro
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I'm pleased you try.
I tried describing how much I enjoy this knife to gunmike1 and most every speech impediment I have surfaced. It's just that good.
I tried describing how much I enjoy this knife to gunmike1 and most every speech impediment I have surfaced. It's just that good.
"I knew you before you knew you had hands!" ~Tracey Brogan
"Ah-ha! A Spyderco moment!" ~Michael Cook
"Hawkbills - Sink in the tip and let it rip!" ~Axlis
"I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers which can't be questioned" ~Richard Feynman
"Ah-ha! A Spyderco moment!" ~Michael Cook
"Hawkbills - Sink in the tip and let it rip!" ~Axlis
"I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers which can't be questioned" ~Richard Feynman
Received my Superhawk and Sage on Monday. These are my first carbon fiber :spyder: s, and, yes, they are sweet!
When I look at the Superhawk, I can't help but wonder... if a Manix wanted to be a hawkbill, what would it look like? Well, have a look at, and handle, the Superhawk and you'll have an idea. The spines of both knives appear to be of the same thickness, although the liners of the Superhawk seem a tad bit thicker than those of the Manix. As far as weight goes, feels like the Manix tips the scales in its favor (by almost 2 oz according to the stats listed for the knives). I'd say they're comparable in bulk when closed, although the Superhawk seems a bit slimmer in profile when opened.
Yes, the Superhawk has a very smooth action, nice design and ergonomics, and good balance and feel in the hand. After finally getting the Para-Military, I now have an appreciation for compression locks. And, check out the spacer pins on both the Superhawk and Sage! They have this "lathed" look (for lack of a better description) down the middle... almost like the grooved wheel of a pulley.
I echo Thombrogan in thanking to all those involved in putting this idea together (the names mentioned were Fozzy, Hawkbill, The General, JD_Spydo, Dr. Lecter, and Thombrogan). Also, many thanks to Sal and company for making it a reality. Very cool knife, Sal!
When I look at the Superhawk, I can't help but wonder... if a Manix wanted to be a hawkbill, what would it look like? Well, have a look at, and handle, the Superhawk and you'll have an idea. The spines of both knives appear to be of the same thickness, although the liners of the Superhawk seem a tad bit thicker than those of the Manix. As far as weight goes, feels like the Manix tips the scales in its favor (by almost 2 oz according to the stats listed for the knives). I'd say they're comparable in bulk when closed, although the Superhawk seems a bit slimmer in profile when opened.
Yes, the Superhawk has a very smooth action, nice design and ergonomics, and good balance and feel in the hand. After finally getting the Para-Military, I now have an appreciation for compression locks. And, check out the spacer pins on both the Superhawk and Sage! They have this "lathed" look (for lack of a better description) down the middle... almost like the grooved wheel of a pulley.
I echo Thombrogan in thanking to all those involved in putting this idea together (the names mentioned were Fozzy, Hawkbill, The General, JD_Spydo, Dr. Lecter, and Thombrogan). Also, many thanks to Sal and company for making it a reality. Very cool knife, Sal!
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Mr. Glasser,sal wrote:Thanx much Thom. We try to please.
sal
Although I'm new to the forum; I'm a fan of your knives,particularly those in which the clipit can be switched for left handed use with their ease of carrying and opening.
In my opinion the Superhawk and the Sage are two excellents but different samples of your company's products: Quality, wokmanship, materials and originality.
To Thom I say that there is no need to apologize; I was wandering: why didn't I think of it? Also, It took me some time to convince the wife of what I wanted for my Bthday and now I'm waiting some more which is giving her the opportunity to say how impatient I am
Best,
Pedro
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I'm sure your wife already knew how impatient you were. Still, while I distrust patience, it gets many things accomplished.
"I knew you before you knew you had hands!" ~Tracey Brogan
"Ah-ha! A Spyderco moment!" ~Michael Cook
"Hawkbills - Sink in the tip and let it rip!" ~Axlis
"I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers which can't be questioned" ~Richard Feynman
"Ah-ha! A Spyderco moment!" ~Michael Cook
"Hawkbills - Sink in the tip and let it rip!" ~Axlis
"I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers which can't be questioned" ~Richard Feynman
After skimming through the whole thread, it's neat to see the progression from JD's desire for a new Hawkbill to the release of the Superhawk. I gathered some of the more relevant posts.
JD Spydo's original post.
The spark that conceived the Superhawk name.
A little under six months from the start, Sal takes the bait.
I think this post of Dr. Snubnose helped solidify the design (and the name).
More some thoughts on the design from Sal.
With Thombrogan helping out, especially the mention of the D'Allara. It and the Superhawk share very similar handle designs.
All that, countless other posts, and approximately three years time, lead to this...
JD Spydo's original post.
JD Spydo wrote:Let me tell you what I saw today. And it made me angry :mad: . I was looking at the newest edition of Tactical KNives magazine. On page 91 I saw something that broke my heart. The knife company MOD ( Masters of Defense) has a new premium Hawkbill knife called the "Caracara". What really burns me up about this is that it is not a low quality show off type knife. Quite the contrary it is a premium built blade. The blade steel is S30V and the knife handle is CNC machined Titanium. It really breaks my heart that someone besides the Great Spyder Factory has already launched such a blade.
Now is the Time!!! We must petition the Great Spyder Factory to get on the ball and draw up the plans for a "barnburner" of a Hawkbill. Come on guys/gals here in Spyderville we must not let a competing knife company like MOD show up the Great Spyder Factory with a knife that should be and is an icon of the Spyderco tradition. The blade on the new Hawkbill should even be available in combo edge. The market is there. We need to brainstorm on this now!!! DOCTOR LECTER WHERE ARE YOU????!!!!! :D
The spark that conceived the Superhawk name.
JD Spydo wrote:Chad has another great thread going that has just inspired me. His version of a Cricket transformed into a Hawkbill is just a super inspired idea. Now I am going to take it completely to the other extreme :cool:
I say there is one more possible version of a Hawkbill that all of us have just totally overlooked. Take the handle/frame of a Manix or even a Chinook and make a "Super Tanker" Hawkbill. You could have the spine on that blade about .175 inch thick ( which would make it slightly thicker than 1/8 of an inch). This proposed "Super Tanker" Hawkbill would be the "Cat's Meow" for Military, Law Enforcement or anybody who needs a super, heavy duty piece of knife/cutlery hardware.:spyder:
Can you imagine a Chinook handle with a blade about an inch wide and .175 inch thick on the spine :eek: . This knife would be a fisherman's dream and a Military standard issue under the right situations. The "Super Tanker Hawk"!!!! You heard it here first from the files of JD :spyder: O
A little under six months from the start, Sal takes the bait.
sal wrote:It looks like the CF Harpy is scheduled for release in the not too distant future. Once it's out and gone, we can start to look more closely at the "next" hawkbill.
Ssssssoooooooo......whatdowehave?
4" blade? 2" blade? G-10 handle? New Endura 4 handle? (FRN) New handle design entirely? Wave? Color? lock or slip-joint? what lock?
Integral titanium or stainless steel compress lock?
Light & fast? strong and heavy?
You can do the DVD, we'll make the knife.
Maybe a pink one for Ms Delica (welcome).
sal
I think this post of Dr. Snubnose helped solidify the design (and the name).
Dr. Snubnose wrote:Ghostrider: I think your thinking is on the right track...I would love to see a new MBC rated G-10 ZDP 189 Dual Liner, Compression Lock Hawkbill, I think it would hold it's own in sales, not only from members of this forum, but on the outside as well. Spyderco has to grab the bull by the horns and produce something SUPER that blows the competition away, a revamp of the spyderhawk that everyone could afford would be nice, a small little hawkbill that Sal keeps pushing is all well and good, but it just don't do it for me! If spyderco doesn't want to produce a whole series of hawks I can understand that, but my feeling is sometimes you have to take a little more risk, believe in what you produce and push it till it sells like hot cakes, because it is that good!
My vote goes to producing the best hawk spyderco could make,to make it anything less than that will make it just another hawkbill..Doc :D
More some thoughts on the design from Sal.
sal wrote:I've been following the thread for a while. MBC (very heavy duty) lock is not a problem. I guess it is my "meaning" of "tank".
We spent a great deal of time and effort to take 2 ounces out of the Chinook. With skeletonized liners, etc., I guess I don't consider the Chinook or Manix a "tank". When I think of "tank", I think of big, heavy armor plate on wheels. A "super tanker" is just bigger, heavier, with more armor plate.
The Hawkbill design that I came up with will be strong and functional, but I will try to make it as light as I can without sacrificing strength. Too heavy does not get carried. Not being carried means its usefulness is gone. Relegated to being a "showcase queen".
I thought that we might be going off into the "heavy" direction and wanted to clarify.
sal
With Thombrogan helping out, especially the mention of the D'Allara. It and the Superhawk share very similar handle designs.
thombrogan wrote:Light as a Ladybug, strong as a Manix, cute as a purple Poliwog, slick as a D'Allara Rescue, and slim as a Stretch. With some folks here also wanting the knife as American as a Glesser. And with a UKPK-style clip, please. :D
All that, countless other posts, and approximately three years time, lead to this...
And isn't it amazing what else turned up in here...
http://www.spyderco.com/forums/showpost ... count=1124
(is that an early Ed Shempp Barong I see?)
I didn't follow the development of the P'Kal too closely, but this does seem to be another familiar face.
http://www.spyderco.com/forums/showpost ... count=1182
(especially the middle one here)
http://www.spyderco.com/forums/showpost ... count=1190
And in the spirit of the thread, we're not done yet. :D
Now we have the Superhawk, I've only had mine for a little over a day, but it sure grows on you fast. You don't realize how good a hawkbill blade is till you actually use one.
From here, I still think we need a lower end version of the Superhawk.
This design screams for hard use, and I would certainly be more willing to give it the use it deserves if it were in a more beatable form.
Maybe not right away, as the Superhawk just released and needs time to grow on people (like me), but I think this design has lots of potential for more variants (ZDP-189, drool).
Hopefully Sal keeps this one around long enough to get that opportunity.
Oh! I almost forgot. A hawkbill blade on the Military would be pretty awesome as well.
Now we have the Superhawk, I've only had mine for a little over a day, but it sure grows on you fast. You don't realize how good a hawkbill blade is till you actually use one.
From here, I still think we need a lower end version of the Superhawk.
This design screams for hard use, and I would certainly be more willing to give it the use it deserves if it were in a more beatable form.
Maybe not right away, as the Superhawk just released and needs time to grow on people (like me), but I think this design has lots of potential for more variants (ZDP-189, drool).
Hopefully Sal keeps this one around long enough to get that opportunity.
Oh! I almost forgot. A hawkbill blade on the Military would be pretty awesome as well.
Longevity For The Bent Blade
This just flat out blows my mind that this Hawkbill thread has truly been given a life of it's own. Here I've been away for a while and I thought for certain this thread would be in the graveyard at Golden Colorado by now but much to my surprise it is breathing and it's blood pressure is holding steady.
I sure regret that I had to be away when they coronated the Superhawk :o
But everyone in Spyderville seems to be speaking well of it except for those who don't like the bent blades for what ever reason. Predjudices are a very strange and usually baseless trait that most humans would benefit by losing.
But I truly believe I am seeing the Superhawk erode many of those preconceived predjudices. I guess now I'm wanting to know what else might be in the HAWKBILL PIPELINE at the Great Spyder Factory.
Long live SPYDERCO HaWKBILLS!! :cool:
I sure regret that I had to be away when they coronated the Superhawk :o
But everyone in Spyderville seems to be speaking well of it except for those who don't like the bent blades for what ever reason. Predjudices are a very strange and usually baseless trait that most humans would benefit by losing.
But I truly believe I am seeing the Superhawk erode many of those preconceived predjudices. I guess now I'm wanting to know what else might be in the HAWKBILL PIPELINE at the Great Spyder Factory.
Long live SPYDERCO HaWKBILLS!! :cool:
Long Live the SPYDEREDGE Spyderco Hawkbills RULE!!
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Now let's put some teeth on that puppy and I'll buy one
Hope the compression lock is better than those on the Para's
Hope the compression lock is better than those on the Para's
Arend(old school Spydie lover)
MEMBER OF THE INTERNATIONAL ORDER OF THE SPYDEREDGE!!!
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....AND A FG(PARA) MILITARY/SE IN CPMD2(thanx Sal)
...I would love to have one in full SpyderEdge:p
MEMBER OF THE INTERNATIONAL ORDER OF THE SPYDEREDGE!!!
VERY PROUD OWNER OF A CALY III/SE #043 :D
....AND A FG(PARA) MILITARY/SE IN CPMD2(thanx Sal)
...I would love to have one in full SpyderEdge:p
Se & Ce:: Absolutely!!!
Well Spydutch my friend if they don't make that knife available in fully serrated and/or combo edge I'll sure have to know why. With Spyderco being the head honcho of the serrated edge it just would not be proper for it not to be available in SE or CE.spydutch wrote:Now let's put some teeth on that puppy and I'll buy one
Hope the compression lock is better than those on the Para's
I agree with you brother that just does not compute. But we've got to see that the demand would be there so they can get a return on their investment. However I would think that the fishing, maritime and military sectors would buy them like fast food. Yeah buddy I want one in SE & CE both.
My original Post #1 on this thread called for one in Combo Edge especially. Always work to be done for sure.
Long Live the SPYDEREDGE Spyderco Hawkbills RULE!!
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To all whom it may concern,
When Mark Twain was born, Halley's comet was in view. When he died, it was at the same time that that same comet came back around.
That being said, I think the return of JD is our comet. When he left us, the Superhawk arrived, and now that he has returned, NOW is the time for a new hawkbill!
Just my 2 cents
When Mark Twain was born, Halley's comet was in view. When he died, it was at the same time that that same comet came back around.
That being said, I think the return of JD is our comet. When he left us, the Superhawk arrived, and now that he has returned, NOW is the time for a new hawkbill!
Just my 2 cents
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