The casing is another identifier. If you have a Taurus Judge the .410 option would not have rifling. Also lead round nose would be harder to get rifling from I think than a jacketed hollow pointBolster wrote: ↑Sat May 17, 2025 4:39 pmtwinboysdad wrote: ↑Sat May 17, 2025 11:33 amNo spent casings on the ground is a massive advantage, if you need that kind of advantage
How so? The bullet itself will tell an investigator what the caliber is, twist rate, and will identify a barrel by the marks left by lands and grooves; does the casing tell them lots in addition to that?
And for you HK guys...aren't your polygonal barrels rather unique in the marks they (don't) leave?
Edit: Oh.
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Had an N frame in 44 magnum but not 357. For me it's too big for carry use and I don't do anything like IMHSA. Too expensive for this retired guy. 200 meters with any pistol is serious shooting indeed.If you ever get a chance, grab an N frame Smith in whatever caliber you can't go wrong. But a 6 inch N frame .357 is the cat's meow. Breaking glass trigger, good enough for IMHSA rams at 200 meters with 180 SJHPs. Just killer...
Doc, the full power stuff it is designed for is getting rarer and more expensive. The common stuff is like shooting a 22 magnum which is OK, but not really what the thing needs for service/home defense use. It shoots nice, points well and is reliable with 20 rounds capacity (FN pistol) but it is also expensive to shoot. It's loud with any loading and like the 5.56 AR types has a high pitch that seems more painful to my ears than even more powerful calibers. The flat trajectory and low recoil does make a very fun shooter with good hearing protection. Not a fit for everyone but if it fits your circumstances then it's worth it.Does anybody have any hands-on experience with the 5.7x28?
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It's designed to be easy to use and fairly rugged. There's a reason you have so many similar pistols popping up since the gen 3 patents expired. I don't like the grip angle personally but it's hard not to give credit where it's due.SpyderEdgeForever wrote: ↑Tue May 13, 2025 10:57 amSomeone told me for personal defense and law enforcement etc Glock is the best pistol and all the mostly steel ones are too heavy and complicated.VashHash wrote: ↑Tue May 13, 2025 10:24 amSome are but most still come from Austria and are imported through Smyrna.riclaw wrote: ↑Tue May 13, 2025 9:58 amGlocks are made in Smyrna, Georgia, USA.Scandi Grind wrote: ↑Mon May 12, 2025 1:04 pmIf you live in the U.S. it is nice for some people to get a gun manufactered within the country too.
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I've been shooting Glocks since the 1980s, and I keep buying new ones. My latest is a G40 long slide 10mm. I find it interesting that my RIA 1911 in 10mm weighs as much loaded with 8 rounds in the magazine and one in the chamber as my G20 with 17 in the mag and one in the chamber. Say what you want about "plastic" guns, I'll take double the ammo for the same weight any time. I used to shoot competion, and my old G20 has over 20,000 rounds through it with no problems.
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Glock builds them with a 40K life so you're only halfway through it. Watched a video recently with a sig in 10mm and it jammed twice in the first 2 mags. Guy said his Glock 40 never jammed yet. I'd like a glock 40 MOS myself.yablanowitz wrote: ↑Fri May 23, 2025 11:38 amI've been shooting Glocks since the 1980s, and I keep buying new ones. My latest is a G40 long slide 10mm. I find it interesting that my RIA 1911 in 10mm weighs as much loaded with 8 rounds in the magazine and one in the chamber as my G20 with 17 in the mag and one in the chamber. Say what you want about "plastic" guns, I'll take double the ammo for the same weight any time. I used to shoot competion, and my old G20 has over 20,000 rounds through it with no problems.
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I read a story in a gun magazine years ago about a Glock 17 range rental gun that had over 286,000 rounds through it.
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Better start looking quick. E-mail from the Glock Store said Glock is discontinuing all the long slide models.VashHash wrote: ↑Sun May 25, 2025 4:05 pmGlock builds them with a 40K life so you're only halfway through it. Watched a video recently with a sig in 10mm and it jammed twice in the first 2 mags. Guy said his Glock 40 never jammed yet. I'd like a glock 40 MOS myself.yablanowitz wrote: ↑Fri May 23, 2025 11:38 amI've been shooting Glocks since the 1980s, and I keep buying new ones. My latest is a G40 long slide 10mm. I find it interesting that my RIA 1911 in 10mm weighs as much loaded with 8 rounds in the magazine and one in the chamber as my G20 with 17 in the mag and one in the chamber. Say what you want about "plastic" guns, I'll take double the ammo for the same weight any time. I used to shoot competion, and my old G20 has over 20,000 rounds through it with no problems.
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I have never had a Glock that wasn't completely reliable while I've never had a 1911Govt/Colt series 70/80 and officers stainless model that was . I can't recall any of my 4 Glocks ever stopping or jamming . That is in 3 different calibers too. My last 1911 from Colt came out of the box with a magazine seating issue and only reliable with ball ammo. I didn't keep it. The Glocks feed everything I've tried so far even with the 33 rd mag. None of mine that I've bought new are at 20K mark and likely never will be at current prices . My G17 is a police trade in that had a lot of use but that hasn't affected it's performance. I recently noticed the G22 Gen 5 has a wider frame than the other 40s.I've been shooting Glocks since the 1980s, and I keep buying new ones. My latest is a G40 long slide 10mm. I find it interesting that my RIA 1911 in 10mm weighs as much loaded with 8 rounds in the magazine and one in the chamber as my G20 with 17 in the mag and one in the chamber. Say what you want about "plastic" guns, I'll take double the ammo for the same weight any time. I used to shoot competion, and my old G20 has over 20,000 rounds through it with no problems.
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The only time I had an issue with a glock was with a ETS magazine. Now I use magpuls for practice and oem for everything else.
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New In Box, Forty-four years old.
1911's have come and gone over the years, but I never had a regular old Government model that was "nice." This one came up at a local auction and it seemed to call out to me. It came in the original box, had the tag on it, the manuals have never been removed from the styrofoam, and it even has the original plastic bag and desiccant paper.
1911's have come and gone over the years, but I never had a regular old Government model that was "nice." This one came up at a local auction and it seemed to call out to me. It came in the original box, had the tag on it, the manuals have never been removed from the styrofoam, and it even has the original plastic bag and desiccant paper.
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Very nice.
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Great find ! DanRustyIron wrote: ↑Thu Jul 10, 2025 5:56 pmNew In Box, Forty-four years old.
1911's have come and gone over the years, but I never had a regular old Government model that was "nice." This one came up at a local auction and it seemed to call out to me. It came in the original box, had the tag on it, the manuals have never been removed from the styrofoam, and it even has the original plastic bag and desiccant paper.
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Not the last gun I bought.
I think my grandfather
may have brought this from France
after the war to end all wars.
It has no serial number or markings
other than Crown/N proof marks,
which could be counterfeit.
I have not fired it yet.
A 32 ACP served to "gauge" the cylinder bores.
It's currently loaded with 32 S&W
but it looks like there is more room
so I have ordered some 32 S&W Long.

Yes. This single action revolver has a safety.
So you can go around half-cocked?
It's backwards. Up is safe. Down is fire.

There is a loading gate on the right side.
A rod concealed in the cylinder spindle
pulls out and swings over to eject cases.
There is a hole in the butt for a lanyard ring,
which hardly seems necessary for such a small piece.
Have a good weekend.
I think my grandfather
may have brought this from France
after the war to end all wars.
It has no serial number or markings
other than Crown/N proof marks,
which could be counterfeit.
I have not fired it yet.
A 32 ACP served to "gauge" the cylinder bores.
It's currently loaded with 32 S&W
but it looks like there is more room
so I have ordered some 32 S&W Long.
Yes. This single action revolver has a safety.
So you can go around half-cocked?
It's backwards. Up is safe. Down is fire.
There is a loading gate on the right side.
A rod concealed in the cylinder spindle
pulls out and swings over to eject cases.
There is a hole in the butt for a lanyard ring,
which hardly seems necessary for such a small piece.
Have a good weekend.
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A Taurus TX22 T.O.R.O. - picking it up monday, and getting a Swamp Fox sentinel green dot in for it at around the same time. Should be a fun little pistol. Threaded barrel too.
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Just an update on the last pistol I bought…. I own quite a few HK’s, a bunch of Glocks, one Sig, and I’ve put a lot of rounds through two different Staccato’s, but don’t own one.
This CZ Shadow 2 outshoots all of them, easily, like it’s not even close! I highly recommend any of you to try one, if you’re looking for a range / practice pistol, this one will open your eyes, and for a third of the price of a Staccato! With the optic I’m $1430.00 in on this one.
This CZ Shadow 2 outshoots all of them, easily, like it’s not even close! I highly recommend any of you to try one, if you’re looking for a range / practice pistol, this one will open your eyes, and for a third of the price of a Staccato! With the optic I’m $1430.00 in on this one.
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This is pretty easy at 10/12 yards with this Shadow 2.
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Interesting piece! Have you considered sent pictures and what information you have to Garry James at Guns &Ammo ? He may have more background, or maybe not . This revolver is extremely unique, never have seen anything like it . DanMad Mac wrote: ↑Sat Jul 12, 2025 9:28 amNot the last gun I bought.
I think my grandfather
may have brought this from France
after the war to end all wars.
It has no serial number or markings
other than Crown/N proof marks,
which could be counterfeit.
I have not fired it yet.
A 32 ACP served to "gauge" the cylinder bores.
It's currently loaded with 32 S&W
but it looks like there is more room
so I have ordered some 32 S&W Long.
Yes. This single action revolver has a safety.
So you can go around half-cocked?
It's backwards. Up is safe. Down is fire.
There is a loading gate on the right side.
A rod concealed in the cylinder spindle
pulls out and swings over to eject cases.
There is a hole in the butt for a lanyard ring,
which hardly seems necessary for such a small piece.
Have a good weekend.
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The Smith & Wesson Forum
with 200,000 members and 7 million posts
has a board for other brands of firearms and knives.
Some of their members suggested it was probably Belgian.
Tomorrow the 32 S&W Long should arrive.
with 200,000 members and 7 million posts
has a board for other brands of firearms and knives.
Some of their members suggested it was probably Belgian.
Tomorrow the 32 S&W Long should arrive.
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Well, that didn't work.
32 S&W Long is too long for the little revolver.
I should have known.
In the unlikely event
you have a 32 S&W Long revolver
or want some "32 Lite" ammo
for a 32 H&R Magnum revolver
and want a deal
direct message me.
32 S&W Long is too long for the little revolver.
I should have known.
In the unlikely event
you have a 32 S&W Long revolver
or want some "32 Lite" ammo
for a 32 H&R Magnum revolver
and want a deal
direct message me.
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