C-60 Ayoob Campaign: No I Won't Shut Up

[VooDooChild]

I will take any Ayoob. Any handle material, any steel, any edge type, manufactured anywhere except China.

But if given a choice...

I would like g10.

I would very much prefer a stainless steel. Something about the Ayoob just seems like it needs to be very low maintenance.

I am fine with either edge type, but I guess I would prefer serrated. If they do both I will probably get both.

I am fine with it being made anywhere thats not China. But I would prefer Golden or Japan. Golden because of how good their backlocks are, and Japan because of the Ayoob heritage. Actually, I think I would prefer it be Japan.

Also if they want to make the bug logo in the clip colorful then that would be awesome too.

Edit:
Also as far as the type of steel goes Im a bit torn. If its serrated I would put lc200n as my first pick.
But, if its plain edge, then lc200n drops down to one of my last picks. I would actually prefer vg10 or s30v in a plain edge configuration.

Edit again:
Actually, Im not too keen on lc200n if the rest of the knife isnt a salt. Im going to be one of those weirdos and say that I would prefer vg10 or s30v for either edge type.

[Browncoat]

Honestly, I'm fine with VG-10 or S30v.....in se. :D

[JD Spydo]

Honestly, I'm fine with VG-10 or S30v.....in se. :D

And I understand why a few of you feel that way. Actually I wouldn't be opposed if they made a Spyderedged C-60 Ayoob in VG-10 because VG-10 is one of my favorite blade steels for serrated edges.

But after making two editions of the C-60 Ayoob both in VG-10 isn't it time for an upgrade? With all the newer/better blade steels that have hit the market in the past few years it just makes sense to give us a C-60 Ayoob in a newer/better blade steel.

Now take XHP for instance>> it's proven to be good in both edge types.

I'm also liking the LC200N as a viable option at this point too for both edge types.

[JRinFL]

LC200N, SPY27, S90V would all be good in my book, assuming any change in steel is required at all. What I really hope is that this knife makes a return without it being a $200+ model. If we can get it at the Yojimbo street price of ~$150US that would be awesome.

[JD Spydo]

LC200N, SPY27, S90V would all be good in my book, assuming any change in steel is required at all. What I really hope is that this knife makes a return without it being a $200+ model. If we can get it at the Yojimbo street price of ~$150US that would be awesome.

No objections to any of those suggestions for blade steel. If they do a similar handle to what they did on the 2011 Sprint Run of the C-60 Ayoob then I don't see any reason that it would have to cost over $200 or thereabout. Not sure how much blade steel costs factor in on a project like this?

However I like this model so much that I would buy it regardless>> and in both edge types as well. Yeah it's just that good of a model

[JD Spydo]

After just recently doing a thread on the safety ( or lack thereof :rolleyes: ) of knife handles and how they can be the difference between an accident and/or a "job well done">> I really got to thinking about the handle on the Sprint Run G-10 Ayoob model that I dearly love so much.

So I got out one of my Sprint Run, G-10 versions of the C-60 Ayoob and I got to thinking what else would make this ultra-classic even better yet. As much as I love that model I really got to thinking critically that a slightly thicker handle on this model might be an improvement. Because I feel that Sprint Runs should take a great model and even make it somewhat better than the original. A slightly thicker G-10 handle I do believe would bring this great model closer to absolute perfection.

Over the years I've heard others say that they wish the handle on the C-60 Ayoob was just a bit thicker. So I'm wondering what you all might think about a "thicker G-10 handle"??? That is if this C-60 Sprint Run comes to fruition :cool:

[Sumdumguy]

How does the G10 Ayoob's thickness compare to the Ulize?

I love how thin the Ulize is. It's a HUGE knife, that disappears in your pocket. But it's never once felt too thin.

[JD Spydo]

How does the G10 Ayoob's thickness compare to the Ulize?

I love how thin the Ulize is. It's a HUGE knife, that disappears in your pocket. But it's never once felt too thin.

I've never measured the two side by side with calipers. However they do seem to be similar. But do keep in mind that they are two completely different designs with two completely intended purposes. I can see why you might like the ULIZE they way it is.
Albeit the Ayoob has the capability to do a wide range of cutting jobs. Which is why I'm reluctant to refer to the C-60 Ayoob strictly as a "self defense" knife because it is capable of so much more than that.

Also I'm mindful that I may possibly be in the minority as far as wanting a slightly thicker handle for the C-60. Oh I can live with it just the way it is. As long as a new Sprint Run would have at least a G-10 handle similar to that of the 2011 Sprint Run. But sure it's something we can talk about :)

[ladybug93]

i wasn’t around for this model, but i’d like one if they were available. i always request lined g10, but for some reason, this seems like it would be great in a frn handle and ticn coated se h1. i’d also take lc200n or a host of other steels. i do think that spyderco needs a salt self-defense knife though. and all this sprint talk... why? i agree this knife would do much better now than it did when it was released. it deserves another chance. :)

[JD Spydo]

i wasn’t around for this model, but i’d like one if they were available. i always request lined g10, but for some reason, this seems like it would be great in a frn handle and ticn coated se h1. i’d also take lc200n or a host of other steels. i do think that spyderco needs a salt self-defense knife though. and all this sprint talk... why? i agree this knife would do much better now than it did when it was released. it deserves another chance. :)

And I totally agree with you that the market would be much more receptive now than it was in 2002 or 2011 either for that matter. I'm not kidding when I say that the C-60 Ayoob was ahead of it's time because for about a half a dozen reasons it was definitely that.

The constant, steady following that the C-60 has had over the years has never slowed down at all. And when I launched that thread on which 3 classics people would want to see returned in a Sprint Run way over half of the respondents listed the C-60 Ayoob in SE & PE. I think a newer edition would sell out within a month or less. If I'm wrong it for sure wouldn't take over 2 months at the longest considering the economic debacle this country is battling with at this time.

They would have no trouble selling at least two 1200 piece runs with about 30% of them in SE.

[Sumdumguy]

How does the G10 Ayoob's thickness compare to the Ulize?

I love how thin the Ulize is. It's a HUGE knife, that disappears in your pocket. But it's never once felt too thin.

I've never measured the two side by side with calipers. However they do seem to be similar. But do keep in mind that they are two completely different designs with two completely intended purposes. I can see why you might like the ULIZE they way it is.
Albeit the Ayoob has the capability to do a wide range of cutting jobs. Which is why I'm reluctant to refer to the C-60 Ayoob strictly as a "self defense" knife because it is capable of so much more than that.

Also I'm mindful that I may possibly be in the minority as far as wanting a slightly thicker handle for the C-60. Oh I can live with it just the way it is. As long as a new Sprint Run would have at least a G-10 handle similar to that of the 2011 Sprint Run. But sure it's something we can talk about :)

I never was able to use the Ayoob with any gusto, mainly because I didn't care for the Almite handles. But, I was able to appreciate the design. I would love to put one through it's paces, but it's difficult to track down a G10 version.

The Ulize truly surprised me, with how good and well rounded of a knife it is. How they were able to make a 4.125" blade, that can carry that discreetly, is amazing.

I've found that most "Self Defense" knives, have more practical applications than they do defensive. Not that they won't excel in self defence(I wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of either), just that they end up being great EDC knives.

The Ulize was the first(and still, only) knife that was able to compete on the same level as my Caribbean. Heck, it sees more pocket time than anything but my Micro Dyad, these days.


Anyways... Ayoob, Ulize, LC200N.

Let's make it happen!

[PSquared]

Well for those "I'll definitely buy one" guys that are prepared to pull out $500 for one, there has been an SE Ayoob on that Arizona knife site based in Florida since 2 July ...

[benben]

Been carrying my new Ayoob for the past week, it is REALLY thin! But for a pretty good sized knife it really does disappear in the pocket. But, it would definitely feel better in the hand if it had just a tad thicker scales. JD, please tell Sal to make the opening hole one size larger as well!

[Sumdumguy]

Well for those "I'll definitely buy one" guys that are prepared to pull out $500 for one, there has been an SE Ayoob on that Arizona knife site based in Florida since 2 July ...

It's Almite, though. I never could enjoy that handle material.

[Evil D]

I've found that most "Self Defense" knives, have more practical applications than they do defensive. Not that they won't excel in self defence(I wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of either), just that they end up being great EDC knives.

It is interesting how ergonomics seem to be better in self defense knives than ones designed for general use. Maybe this is a case of cutting out the aesthetic aspect of a design and doing what works best with your hand. This is probably why knives like the Ayoob and Yojimbo family look a little odd.

[PeaceInOurTime]

Not sure if it's been discussed yet, but were these only made tip down?

[JD Spydo]

Been carrying my new Ayoob for the past week, it is REALLY thin! But for a pretty good sized knife it really does disappear in the pocket. But, it would definitely feel better in the hand if it had just a tad thicker scales. JD, please tell Sal to make the opening hole one size larger as well!

I'm playing with one of my G-10 versions of the C-60 as we speak. Yeah the Spyder-Hole could stand to be a bit wider in diameter. However it's never yet been a problem on either the Almite ( 2002 edition) or on the G-10 ( 2011 edition) for me. But if you're a guy with a larger hand I can see why you would want it a bit larger.

That's a good idea we need to create a check list as we are speaking here on this discussion. I've even thought that it wouldn't hurt to have the G-10 handle/scales a bit thicker than the 2011 version. But I will say that neither one of those options would not necessarily be a "deal-Breaker" for me either way>> but those options would enhance the C-60 Sprint Run if we are fortunate enough to get it.

[JD Spydo]

Not sure if it's been discussed yet, but were these only made tip down?

All the C-60 Ayoob models I've ever had have all been "tip down". But I personally have never made an issue of "Tip Up" and/or "Tip Down". For the types of usage I put a typical folder through I've never seen an advantage or disadvantage one way or the other.

I'm guessing that it's a martial arts or self defense deployment concern. Shamefully I've never really even looked into the "Tip Up/Tip down options :o . So if you all want to educate me I'm all ears. If it would make the C-60 a better folder from certain standpoints then I'm all for it. I'm interested to know how it could enhance the C-60

I'm not even sure you could implement that option on some models :confused:

[JD Spydo]

I've found that most "Self Defense" knives, have more practical applications than they do defensive. Not that they won't excel in self defence(I wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of either), just that they end up being great EDC knives.

It is interesting how ergonomics seem to be better in self defense knives than ones designed for general use. Maybe this is a case of cutting out the aesthetic aspect of a design and doing what works best with your hand. This is probably why knives like the Ayoob and Yojimbo family look a little odd.

That brings up an interesting discussion. Because there are a lot hard core knife enthusiasts I've met at gun & knife shows over the years that I have chatted with and they have shown their obvious dislike of Spyderco knives strictly based on their looks/aesthetics alone. People have even told me that they are "ugly">> now keep in mind most of that was about 15 to 20 years ago. I don't run into that much anymore like I used to.

I will admit that the first time I really looked at some Spyderco models at a gun show in the early 90s I kind of thought they were odd looking until I got my first model ( SS, GIN-1, Full SE Mariner). Then at that time I realized that a lot of Spyderco's designs and accessories like the Spyder-hole and pocket clips are for overall function. I find that the C-60 is a "win-win" in that it is a cool looking design and is a functional work of genius IMO.

I've gotten to the point to where I go for function over looks just about every time. However with this C-60 Ayoob model we are discussing I've always like the overall design and find it appealing to the eye as well as a functional dream folder. Other Spyderco models I've had in the past that I ended up liking were designed for function and not looks/aesthetics. The RESCUE models could be viewed as an excellent example of what I'm talking about. Also some of Ed Schempp's models you could put in the same category . But for sure I see what you are saying.

[benben]

Well for those "I'll definitely buy one" guys that are prepared to pull out $500 for one, there has been an SE Ayoob on that Arizona knife site based in Florida since 2 July ...

It's Almite, though. I never could enjoy that handle material.

Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan either, but I grabbed this Ayoob cause it's in like new condition and I've always wanted one, no way was I going to let this one slip away!

I will say though, with this Almite Ayoob.....and I have a probably 25 year old serrated aluminum handled Cricket, they feel incredibly good in the hand, almost like they have a warm worn feeling to them. But definitely not my first handle choice when shopping for a knife! I expect this Ayoob to start getting nicked, marked, and scuffed up pretty soon, oh well.