Where Artificial Intelligence Is Right Now

[James Y]

From what I've been hearing for years, all of the 'latest' technology that we see now, had already been developed 50 years or so ago, but hadn't been revealed to the public. And that what's being exposed to us now is 50 years behind what already exists.

Jim

What about companies that are relatively new within the last couple decades that have and are developing new technology? Are they not actually developing it? What about the updates and improvements made to those technologies? They're not actually improving those technologies, because they've already been improved 50 years ago? However, since these companies didn't exist 50 years ago, they were given the technology? If so, by who?...aliens? time travelers? ghosts? spirits? skynet? a shadowy cabal of global...benefactors?

Good question. That I don't know. I have heard that the military, and/or other agencies have had such technology for decades. I don't know if 50 years is a hard number for how many years or not. It's what I've heard since the early 2000s or so. Of course, I do believe in the constant innovation and evolution of technology. So maybe what the people who say that are meaning is that the technology for whatever has existed for decades, even if not in the exact form we see it in now.

For one example, I heard that laser disc technology dates back to at least the 1950s, which was at least 20 years before they started becoming known about in 1978.

It's also possible that in many cases, technology that is very similar to already-existing, but unknown technology, is 'rediscovered' independently.

Who knows what all was in Nikola Tesla's papers that were seized by the US government after his death in 1943? And what could have possibly been in development since then, based on what they found?

I don't know, I'm no expert on this stuff. The only thing I am 100% certain of is that 'the few' are always going to hold back and keep the best and most advanced technologies secret from 'the many', in a way that suits themselves. The few will always skew anything they can to give themselves all the advantages. It is not done out of the 'kindness' of their hearts. This is not paranoia, it is human nature.

Jim

Jim,


Well normally (Usually) with any sort of new technology the Government (Military etc) gets it 1st because that's the way things work.

Not sure about the 50 year thing, seems pretty extreme.

But as an example the military was using cell phone technology (it was developed for the military) about 15 to 20 years before civilians ever heard of it.

However like anything else.

The right people have to get even more disgustingly rich or it just will not happen period.


Jim

Jim,

Yes, there's always the money. The people with way more money than they'll ever need, yet it's never enough for them. Ultimately, it's really about the power.

Jim

[Scandi Grind]

Not sure about the 50 year thing, seems pretty extreme.

My brother works in technology and has done a fair ammount of AI research. Many of the technologies used in current AI date back to the 90's and some of the concepts have been around since much earlier, some as far back as the 60's. Part of why we are seeing it only now is because technology is catching up to the idea. Often AI is trained on enormous amounts of data that has to be processed by huge computers before it is distilled down into the comparatively simple algorithm that it can use on a managable scale. This wasn't all easy to do until our computers were suffuciently capable, but as always, the few large companies in the world will have that necessary compute before the average public does.

My explaination here is a bit rudimentary because I am not very into AI technology myself, but this is what I have gathered from what my brother has tried explaining to me anyway.

[Ankerson]

Not sure about the 50 year thing, seems pretty extreme.

My brother works in technology and has done a fair ammount of AI research. Many of the technologies used in current AI date back to the 90's and some of the concepts have been around since much earlier, some as far back as the 60's. Part of why we are seeing it only now is because technology is catching up to the idea. Often AI is trained on enormous amounts of data that has to be processed by huge computers before it is distilled down into the comparatively simple algorithm that it can use on a managable scale. This wasn't all easy to do until our computers were suffuciently capable, but as always, the few large companies in the world will have that necessary compute before the average public does.

My explaination here is a bit rudimentary because I am not very into AI technology myself, but this is what I have gathered from what my brother has tried explaining to me anyway.

Actually it hasn't been around that long. A typical handheld calculator has more processing power than the computers did in the 1960's. Just because someone thinks about it or scribbles something on a note pad doesn't make it a concept.

That's like saying the concept of humans flying and airplanes have been around for 1 million years.

[SpyderEdgeForever]

I heard about people who want artificial intelligent robots as their mates for intimate relations. What do you think of that?

[Naperville]

I heard about people who want artificial intelligent robots as their mates for intimate relations. What do you think of that?

Yes there is talk about sex bots coming. I need to read more science fiction to see what I think about the whole thing because the SciFi flicks that I've seen are not helpful or hopeful. If Blade Runner was any indication, they may want to kill you.

[cabfrank]

[Ankerson]

I heard about people who want artificial intelligent robots as their mates for intimate relations. What do you think of that?

Yes there is talk about sex bots coming. I need to read more science fiction to see what I think about the whole thing because the SciFi flicks that I've seen are not helpful or hopeful. If Blade Runner was any indication, they may want to kill you.

Blade Runner and VICE (2015), more VICE really, then West World too.

[Scandi Grind]

Actually it hasn't been around that long. A typical handheld calculator has more processing power than the computers did in the 1960's. Just because someone thinks about it or scribbles something on a note pad doesn't make it a concept.

That's like saying the concept of humans flying and airplanes have been around for 1 million years.

It is not comparable to imagining the concept of flying and not being able to do it yet. Your argument is that you can either have a fully functional product, or no product at all. This is an either or fallacy. Rather it is comparable to designing a new Boeing airliner that would work but does not yet have the metal alloys necessary to make the design strong enough. Ten years go by and the necessary alloys are developed, then the design can be made substantial enough to use.

We are using old math for components of AI, it just wasn't very useful to use in computers until processing power could work with the large ammounts of data we needed to shove into it.

[Naperville]

Somebody had to have an idea, and then when the technologies or materials become available manufacture the product.

It's the way mankind works.

[Ankerson]

Actually it hasn't been around that long. A typical handheld calculator has more processing power than the computers did in the 1960's. Just because someone thinks about it or scribbles something on a note pad doesn't make it a concept.

That's like saying the concept of humans flying and airplanes have been around for 1 million years.

It is not comparable to imagining the concept of flying and not being able to do it yet. Your argument is that you can either have a fully functional product, or no product at all. This is an either or fallacy. Rather it is comparable to designing a new Boeing airliner that would work but does not yet have the metal alloys necessary to make the design strong enough. Ten years go by and the necessary alloys are developed, then the design can be made substantial enough to use.

We are using old math for components of AI, it just wasn't very useful to use in computers until processing power could work with the large ammounts of data we needed to shove into it.

Or and much more realistic, some eggheads etc. are just trying to take credit for something they didn't do.

That is the way things work if they can get away with it.

[shunsui]

Have to say Google's DeepMind projects are impressive.
This one is about mathematics: AlphaProof and AlphaGeometry 2.

[shunsui]

OK, enough math, NSA, end of the world.

Here's something you can relate to.

[Naperville]

AI is Coming For All of Us.

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment ... or-us-all/

[Doc Dan]

AI is now part of many rice cookers and laundry driers. AI is convenient, helpful, and taking over more quickly than people are aware.

[akapennypincher]

My buddy use AI for ideas, and to help him write scrips and titles for his U-Tube Channel, he has 300K followers on. He jokes that with AI he someday could clone a creature in his image do be him, full his follower to think he is still doing U-Tubes, and do his work. AI is a a tool, like a knife or firearm. Depending on whose hand it is in, can be, or will be used to do good or bad.

Maybe I am wrong but the more we depend on technology, AI, or tools to do basic stuff I was taught to do with my brain, like math, reading, writing, balancing a check book, knowing how to survive if stranded in forest. The more we become dependent, and less independent.

We are loosing control of lives, freedoms, our brains, and last some freedom to be self reliant free thinking person. Technology is fine until hacked, or it fails.

When and if it is hacked or failed where you going to go for survival answers Alexia? She doesn’t work without electricity.

[Ankerson]

AI is now part of many rice cookers and laundry driers. AI is convenient, helpful, and taking over more quickly than people are aware.

Well lets hope people catch on to it before it really takes hold.