Where is my Bow River ?

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Where is my Bow River ?

Postby elena86 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:08 am

My most anticipated fixed blade ....please Spyderco , tell me I'll get one before Christmass !
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Re: Where is my Bow River ?

Postby BornIn1500 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:08 pm

Really doesn't seem like it will be happening before Christmas. We still haven't seen what the leather sheath will be like. If I had to guess, I'd say that may be the speed bump in this project. Maybe design changes or material source changes to get the costs down? Can't be easy to make a Spyderco-quality leather sheath along with the knife for such a low price point, even in China.

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Re: Where is my Bow River ?

Postby 500Nitro » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:13 pm

What's the price point they are aiming at ?
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Re: Where is my Bow River ?

Postby foofie » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:20 pm

500Nitro wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:13 pm
What's the price point they are aiming at ?
Somewhere between free and crazy cheap.
In the US, MSRP is $49.95, or MAP of $32.47.

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Re: Where is my Bow River ?

Postby 500Nitro » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:33 pm

foofie wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:20 pm
500Nitro wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:13 pm
What's the price point they are aiming at ?
Somewhere between free and crazy cheap.wern
In the US, MSRP is $49.95, or MAP of $32.47.
Lol dreaming! (Wild guess!)

And what I've noticed is people probably wouldn't know the difference between a cheap Chinese crap knife and any half reasonable knife.
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Re: Where is my Bow River ?

Postby BornIn1500 » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:18 am

yea $32 almost seems too good to be true. Would be great if it can be done.

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Re: Where is my Bow River ?

Postby 500Nitro » Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:24 am

BornIn1500 wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:18 am
yea $32 almost seems too good to be true. Would be great if it can be done.
Build to a price, not to a quality ?

In my experience it doesn't always end well.
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Re: Where is my Bow River ?

Postby Vivi » Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:19 am

There are plenty of good production fixed blades for under $40.

Even my last two hand made customs were only $60.

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Re: Where is my Bow River ?

Postby Cscottsss » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:23 am

I'm looking forward to it, especially at that price point.

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Re: Where is my Bow River ?

Postby tvenuto » Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:32 pm

500Nitro wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:33 pm

Lol dreaming! (Wild guess!)

And what I've noticed is people probably wouldn't know the difference between a cheap Chinese crap knife and any half reasonable knife.
You do know this one is made in China?

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Re: Where is my Bow River ?

Postby tvenuto » Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:34 pm

Vivi wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:19 am
There are plenty of good production fixed blades for under $40.

Even my last two hand made customs were only $60.
Custom makers of many things, if they aren’t trendy, ridiculously undercharge in my experience.

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Re: Where is my Bow River ?

Postby 500Nitro » Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:59 pm

You do know this one is made in China?
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Yes

And everything out of China you pay for what you get.
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Re: Where is my Bow River ?

Postby TomAiello » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:56 pm

500Nitro wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:59 pm
And everything out of China you pay for what you get.
I've actually seen some very high quality stuff coming out of China and other Asian countries.

That's especially true in soft goods (clothing, luggage, etc) where the primary contributor to quality is man-hours of labor (in doing more involved sewing). The labor is so much cheaper that they can produce a higher quality good at the same price point (when compared to trying to produce similar labor intensive goods in the US or EU).

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Re: Where is my Bow River ?

Postby 500Nitro » Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:34 pm

Yes, but you get what you pay for.
I've had excellent quality out of China but it costs more than cheap stuff.

You can't compare cost of labour between us, eu and China unless you compare cost of living and other factors.

Most consumers can't tell the difference between a low quality and a medium/good quality garment.
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Re: Where is my Bow River ?

Postby TomAiello » Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:49 pm

500Nitro wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:34 pm
You can't compare cost of labour between us, eu and China unless you compare cost of living and other factors.
I thought we were talking about the price/quality ratio from China?

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Re: Where is my Bow River ?

Postby zhyla » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:35 pm

TomAiello wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:49 pm
500Nitro wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:34 pm
You can't compare cost of labour between us, eu and China unless you compare cost of living and other factors.
I thought we were talking about the price/quality ratio from China?
We were, but China can do stuff better at a given price point than good ol’ USA, so he switched to talking about ... cost of living?

As far as the street price for this, it’s worth remembering that it’s a small piece of steel steel with some handles, not a fancy contraption. Considering you can get a Tenacious for around $40 it’s not an unfair question: why does the Bow River cost so much? But it’s cheap and I’m looking forward to it.

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Re: Where is my Bow River ?

Postby BornIn1500 » Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:07 pm

zhyla wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:35 pm
Considering you can get a Tenacious for around $40 it’s not an unfair question: why does the Bow River cost so much?

It seems like you're ignoring the cost and construction of the Bow River's leather sheath. Something the Tenacious, obviously, does not come with. The cheapest I'm seeing the Tenacious is $45. I think a $13 difference is significant.
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Re: Where is my Bow River ?

Postby zhyla » Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:13 pm

BornIn1500 wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:07 pm
zhyla wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:35 pm
Considering you can get a Tenacious for around $40 it’s not an unfair question: why does the Bow River cost so much?

It seems like you're ignoring the cost and construction of the Bow River's leather sheath. Something the Tenacious, obviously, does not come with. The cheapest I'm seeing the Tenacious is $45. So you cannot look at the $32 Bow River and see that as equal pricing. It's about 3/4 the price.
I wasn’t ignoring that. The cost to produce a folder is significantly higher. More assembly time, more parts to machine, more places for QA to fail.

I am curious to see what this sheath looks like. I’m not expecting too much, and I’m fine with anything.

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Re: Where is my Bow River ?

Postby TomAiello » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:24 am

Regardless, I'm super excited for this one. I'm definitely in for multiples.

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Re: Where is my Bow River ?

Postby curlyhairedboy » Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:52 am

I figure these should replace all my steak knives. :D
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