woodcraft spyderco mule team s90v

picobrain · #1

woodcraft spyderco mule team s30v

shown in new woodcraft.com print catalog, not on website yet.
looks like hollow grind, with different pattern than regular mules.

peace

Marion David Poff · #2

Can you take a picture of the catalog?

Marion

picobrain · #3

won't be home until tonight, so if no one beats me to it,
I will post it then. :)

The profile looks a little like their "Drop Point Skinner Knife Kit"

peace

phaust · #4

Do you mean the one in the first column, third down here http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/376 ... 376b8bed/6

Looks pretty interesting.

Sequimite · #5

I was surprised to see this identified as "Mule Team", since few of their customers would know of the program, but on second thought "Mule Team" does have a nice old western resonance.

Also surprised to see them offering an S90V knife blank rather than one of the other fine steels Spyderco uses that is cheaper.

gaj999 · #6

Kinda like the handle, don't like grind or blade shape as much as the real mule.

Gordon

#7

The FB27P is an exclusive for Woodcraft Supply. They worked with Sal on the design. We all felt it was important to differentiate the FB27 from our standard Mule Team. It is, by design, still a Mule.

There is one typo however. The steel is actually CPM-S30V.

Collectors will be receiving some information from Karen very soon.

Kristi

JacksonKnives · #8

Looks like a "Native" version...
very cool. Will be interesting to compare these with the S90 mules. (Though it is certainly outside the mule program--the hollow (saber?) grind kinda takes it out of the running for the "direct comparison" aspect.)

Marion David Poff · #9

That last link is nice, but it took me forever, so I took matters into my own hands.....

Now added to the news section.... http://muleprojects.blogspot.com/

Marion

The Deacon · #10

JacksonKnives wrote:Looks like a "Native" version...
very cool. Will be interesting to compare these with the S90 mules. (Though it is certainly outside the mule program--the hollow (saber?) grind kinda takes it out of the running for the "direct comparison" aspect.)

Did you read Kristi's post? According to her, the ad is a misprint, and the blade is S30V, not S90V.

MCM · #11

Sorry, but an S30v Mule does not compute.
Whats next? a 440 Mule?
Are we to see how S30v performs..... Yawn.......
(S90v I would already have my order in)

I guess S30v is still new to some people?

gaj999 · #12

MCM wrote:Sorry, but an S30v Mule does not compute.
Whats next? a 440 Mule?
Are we to see how S30v performs..... Yawn.......
(S90v I would already have my order in)

I guess S30v is still new to some people?

It's not a Mule, it's a kit knife.

A Mule in S30V would be useful for comparison purposes, so would VG-10. I prefer the cool, new, hard-to-get stuff, though ...

Gordon

whkento · #13

...I'm confused...

Not only is it different from the mule designs, but it's in a non-mule steel. Is it really a mule? I don't think so. :confused:

>>Edit: Looks like Gordon beat me to it...

The Deacon · #14

whkento wrote:...I'm confused...

Not only is it different from the mule designs, but it's in a non-mule steel. Is it really a mule? I don't think so. :confused:

>>Edit: Looks like Gordon beat me to it...

No need for confusion. I think Kristi explained it quite well. It was designed specifically for one vendor, and intentionally made to look different from the Spyderco Mule Team knives, but still fits the general Mule format, a fixed blade knife sold without scales. By your definition, the ZDP-189 mule would not be a Mule Team knife either, since Spyderco had already been producing knives in it for years.

Blue72 · #15

If that knife was flat grind, I would be all over it

Blerv · #16

Sorry, random but I've looked at this thread 5 times and read, "Warcraft".

Mixing nerd hobbies is dangerous medicine =p

JacksonKnives · #17

The Deacon wrote:Did you read Kristi's post? According to her, the ad is a misprint, and the blade is S30V, not S90V.

Right, which is why it will be interesting to compare. Even though the grind and profile are slightly different, it should still give something similar enough to the mule format to show how the steels perform differently in a similar (fixed-blade, fine-edge) application.

As Gordon says (above) there's a great deal of value in seeing Mules in "plain-jane" steels like 440C, S30V, VG10, etc--the whole point of the mule program is to show us how different steels perform in the same application, without forcing us to buy each steel in something "expensive" like the Military or Endura package. If you're limiting those comparisons to super steel vs super steel, you miss out on the fact that with the right heat treat procedure in the right blade profile, even 440C is a **** good knife steel. I think a 440C _vs_ VG10 comparison is far more valuable to the average user than S110V _vs_ Super Blue... though it's obvious which one will generate more buzz among the "afis".

If you've already got most of those steels in something like the Military "package", and the rest in your other EDCs, I can see how it would be "boring" to see them in the MT lineup. I get the feeling some of us treat this program as a "next sprint-run preview" program--we ask Sal to put steels into the MT program that we'd really like to see in our favourite knife in the hopes that it will be "proven" as a viable blade steel. Nothing wrong with that, but there are other sides to the project.

JNewell · #18

The OP should edit the title, if that's possible. Whoever posted that this is a kit knife, not part of the Mule series, had it right...IMO. :spyder:

MCM · #19

"It's not a Mule, it's a kit knife."

It say's Mule. :confused:
That's all I am saying........

And no, its not a Mule by Spyderco's own definition.

Nice looking kit knife though.
Kinda pricey though......
More than the S90v Mule.
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What is a Mule?

In the English language the term mule has multiple definitions: There’s the obvious equine reference being the offspring of a male donkey and a female horse. It can be a coin minted from two dies by mistake and the auto industry refers to the*ir test vehicles as a mules. Spyderco also calls knife models designed and built for testing and evaluation Mules. When a group of these are brought together they make a team of mules, thus the name of our new knife release: The Mule Team.

Knife and steel-devotees love trying out new blade steels. Spyderco leads the industry in offering, testing and manufacturing knives using new and exotic blade steels. Taking that idea a step up, why not offer a series (team) of blades using different, exotic and freshly unveiled steels? In doing this steel-obsessed knife knuts can try, test and use something normally not offered to the industry.

What is the Spyderco Mule Team?

Spyderco’s Mule Team officially launches with a single-piece fixed blade pattern. The blade is leaf-shaped with a sharpened and finished PlainEdge blade but with an unfinished handle providing some a do-it-yourself opportunity. The unfinished handle has a series of holes for attaching a custom handle or for wrapping in cord. All Mule Team Pieces are sold without handle scales or a carry sheath focusing the project on the blade steel and opening the door for the owner to create his/her own handle scale and carry options.

The Mule team project was created as a simple, inexpensive venue for "steel junkys" to have an opportunity to test different blade steels themselves. Each run will have a different interesting steel. Each run will have the same pattern, a fixed blade with a full tang. Each run will have the same thickness, grind, edge and will be heat treated to the optimal hardness for that steel. No handle, scales or sheath are provided. This not only saves you funds, but gives you the opportunity to make (or have made) custom handles and sheaths.

How many and how often will they be released?

Our plan is to release several variations per year using the same fixed blade pattern produced with different exotic steels. Each steel offering is limited to approximately 600 pieces and engraved indicating the steel used. Variations are priced accordingly with the only cost variable being the steel itself. Prices will be announced prior to the release of the upcoming model.

How can I buy them?

All purchases are handled through Spyderco Factory Outlet (SFO).

MCM · #20

Dont get me wrong..... Still might pick one up....... :D
Would like the spec's though.
Not much info, not to mention the typo's.
And info on how to order.