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Ark--new steel in the future?

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:40 pm
by storyville
Are there any plans to issue the Ark in a new steel? (I would love to see it in LC200N, but other steels could be attractive, too.) I find its design very EDC-friendly and utilitarian, but its H-1 leaves a lot to be desired. I'd pick up another in a heartbeat with a more wear-resistant steel.

If this has already been discussed, my apologies. Didn't find it via simple search. Thanks.

Re: Ark--new steel in the future?

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:21 pm
by vivi
I'd be interested. The PE H1 didn't impress me, and I prefer longer blades for SE so I haven't tried the SE H1 version.

I'd buy one in PE FFG LC200N.

I'd also like to see a better sheath. Mine is a CQI version with the release tab and I can pull it out without pressing that tab with less effort than I unsheath my street beat, aqua salt etc. Its the main reason I don't carry mine. Should make some kydex for it I suppose.

Re: Ark--new steel in the future?

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:52 pm
by Bemo
I don't have this model, but have been looking at it. While I'd love LC200N, I can't help but wonder how it would do as a wharnie.

Re: Ark--new steel in the future?

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:58 am
by StuntZombie
Bemo wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:52 pm
I don't have this model, but have been looking at it. While I'd love LC200N, I can't help but wonder how it would do as a wharnie.
That's what I was thinking as well. I can only imagine it would be even more effective in its current role with a wharncliffe blade shape.

Re: Ark--new steel in the future?

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:30 am
by BG-ThatsMe
StuntZombie wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:58 am
Bemo wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:52 pm
I don't have this model, but have been looking at it. While I'd love LC200N, I can't help but wonder how it would do as a wharnie.
That's what I was thinking as well. I can only imagine it would be even more effective in its current role with a wharncliffe blade shape.
The new swick is your solution for a small (better grip) fb wharnie, albeit at almost twice the price.

Re: Ark--new steel in the future?

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:29 am
by Evil D
LC200N is really the only other steel that makes sense unless they do a coated version.

Re: Ark--new steel in the future?

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:31 am
by Evil D
StuntZombie wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:58 am
Bemo wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:52 pm
I don't have this model, but have been looking at it. While I'd love LC200N, I can't help but wonder how it would do as a wharnie.
That's what I was thinking as well. I can only imagine it would be even more effective in its current role with a wharncliffe blade shape.


I figured this was a case where more belly means a technically longer edge which means more usable edge. Otherwise I too would figure a wharnie is better suited for this knife's intended use. As much as I dislike a lot of belly on my knives it does allow you to squeeze more serrations into a limited blade length.

Re: Ark--new steel in the future?

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:42 am
by vivi
BG-ThatsMe wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:30 am
StuntZombie wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:58 am
Bemo wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:52 pm
I don't have this model, but have been looking at it. While I'd love LC200N, I can't help but wonder how it would do as a wharnie.
That's what I was thinking as well. I can only imagine it would be even more effective in its current role with a wharncliffe blade shape.
The new swick is your solution for a small (better grip) fb wharnie, albeit at almost twice the price.
Question is when will the Swick release? Been eagerly anticipating them since they were announced :)

Anyways I'm obviously a fan of the wharncliffe Ark idea.....

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Re: Ark--new steel in the future?

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:17 pm
by StuntZombie
Evil D wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:31 am
StuntZombie wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:58 am
Bemo wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:52 pm
I don't have this model, but have been looking at it. While I'd love LC200N, I can't help but wonder how it would do as a wharnie.
That's what I was thinking as well. I can only imagine it would be even more effective in its current role with a wharncliffe blade shape.


I figured this was a case where more belly means a technically longer edge which means more usable edge. Otherwise I too would figure a wharnie is better suited for this knife's intended use. As much as I dislike a lot of belly on my knives it does allow you to squeeze more serrations into a limited blade length.
You have a point there. I'm likely not the intended market for the particular knife, so my needs and usage are different.

Re: Ark--new steel in the future?

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:49 pm
by cabfrank
I like mine in H1 SE. I think the sheath has always been the weak link, even after the CQI release tab. I know there was a bit of confusion during the design process, but I always thought the sheath should have been made to fit the Spyderco G-Clip, for ease of carry other than around the neck.

Re: Ark--new steel in the future?

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:06 pm
by BG-ThatsMe
vivi wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:42 am
BG-ThatsMe wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:30 am
StuntZombie wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:58 am
Bemo wrote:
Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:52 pm
I don't have this model, but have been looking at it. While I'd love LC200N, I can't help but wonder how it would do as a wharnie.
That's what I was thinking as well. I can only imagine it would be even more effective in its current role with a wharncliffe blade shape.
The new swick is your solution for a small (better grip) fb wharnie, albeit at almost twice the price.
Question is when will the Swick release? Been eagerly anticipating them since they were announced :)

Anyways I'm obviously a fan of the wharncliffe Ark idea.....

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I can see why...little wharncliffe blades are incredibly useful. I was hoping to see the swicks this year, but I'm not going to hold my breath with all that's going on in the world these days. Maybe we will be surprised.

Re: Ark--new steel in the future?

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:01 pm
by Sumdumguy
cabfrank wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:49 pm
I like mine in H1 SE. I think the sheath has always been the weak link, even after the CQI release tab. I know there was a bit of confusion during the design process, but I always thought the sheath should have been made to fit the Spyderco G-Clip, for ease of carry other than around the neck.
When you're in the shower, the only other place you have available is... what you're guarding...

Not what I would consider an ideal alternative! :p

Re: Ark--new steel in the future?

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:11 pm
by vivi
If you drill an extra hole the Ark works with a g-clip.

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I tried that then decided some paracord loops setup for horizontal carry worked better.

Re: Ark--new steel in the future?

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:45 pm
by cabfrank
Vivi, I might try the extra hole. Right now I use a method similar to yours, but zip ties.
Sumdumguy, agreed, but I don't need mine in the shower.

Re: Ark--new steel in the future?

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:01 am
by Bemo
I've never been a big fan of the modified pistol grip with knives, really my only hesitation on a knife that's not even available yet (the Swick). But that's just me.

Re: Ark--new steel in the future?

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:41 pm
by storyville
So, no new steel for the Ark, I take it? Seems like a good model for it, esp to tweak it from SD mainly to EDC mainly + SD 'on call.'