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Mule Team Futures?

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:22 pm
by dishcore
After what I'd think all the hub-bub over the MT18 selling / flipping fiesta has died down, and more than a few folks are getting handles on their MT18's, is it time to start poking my (our) collective noses around, feeling out clues for the next MT series steel? I remember from an old thread there were musing of 4V and S110V (well duh).
sal wrote:Sorry guys, been really busy. We have 3 new steels in-the-works. 1 already finished. Kelly will decide the "when".

sal
sal wrote:Hi Tinkerer,

Welcome to our forum.

The Mule Team steels are generally selected from what is suggested by forumites, foundries or stuff that Eric and I think would be interesting. 4V is planned as is 110V + a few others that we think might be of interest.

sal
So that leads me to think 4V may be the next target. Who knows what will pop up next. Anyone else have any info?

-Chuck

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:58 pm
by TomAiello
4V would be awesome.

I'd also love to see 10V. And K294.

While I'm dreaming how about S125V?

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:09 pm
by Janfrederik
Tom, isn't 10V the same as K294? Or do I have my info wrong? Genuine question.

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:12 pm
by Invective
Janfrederik wrote:Tom, isn't 10V the same as K294? Or do I have my info wrong? Genuine question.
They look to be pretty much identical. But then again, we've seen M390 and 204P and they're pretty much the same as well so I won't complain if we get both :p

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:27 pm
by Philo Beddoe
TomAiello wrote:4V would be awesome.
I believe there is a 4V Mule coming..at least I think remember reading that somewhere.

IMO the 600lb gorilla in the room has to be the coming Maxamet Mule...

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:46 pm
by Holland
4V would be cool, would love to see someone put the same edge angle on all the mules and do one big test

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:10 am
by Ankerson
Philo Beddoe wrote:
IMO the 600lb gorilla in the room has to be the coming Maxamet Mule...

I doubt it, won't be much if any performance difference between it and the A11 class steels, could actually be less performance due to the very high alloy content depending on the actual knife...

It remains to be seen what it will actually do and interesting if the edge stability would be stable enough for knives that are ground thin so they can be useful.


From Carpenters website: http://cartech.ides.com/datasheet.aspx?i=101&E=84

Micro-Melt Maxamet alloy may be considered for many types of tooling applications where either conventional high speed steels or cemented carbides are currently being used. Possible applications could include those where high speed steel is currently being used and an upgrade is desired but the switch to carbide is unattractive due to cost, tooling manufacture, toughness, or machine rigidity concerns; or applications where carbide is currently being used but is not cost-effective due to limited production runs or toughness/breakage problems.

Possible applications for this alloy could include:
Hobs
Punches
Form tools
Taps
End mills
Milling cutters
Thread roll dies
Indexable inserts
Broaches

Wear Resistance

The wear resistance of Micro-Melt Maxamet alloy is better than that of conventional powder metal high speed steel grades and is equivalent to AISI A11 cold work powder metal tool steel.