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Re: SE performance is more than simply teeth vs no teeth.

Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 10:48 pm
by Wartstein
SpyderEdgeForever wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:42 am
Wartstein my friend I do prefer combo edge.
My ffg comboedge Endura (thin red line) really brought me back to that edge configuration, I'd take it over plain edge any day of the week, so I understand you!

But I think at the end of the day full SE is even better for me... not much where the PE part of the comboedge actually works better than the SE part, but on the other hand I sometimes miss having teeth in the front part of the blade.

Re: SE performance is more than simply teeth vs no teeth.

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:09 am
by Drubieg
Image do you guys have thoughts on serrations like this? Sorta bread knifeish. I find they cut really well, don’t snag and don’t beer off to the side much. Some that may have to do with the regrind on this resilience tho. Pretty thin edge

Re: SE performance is more than simply teeth vs no teeth.

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:39 am
by Evil D
Drubieg wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:09 am
Image do you guys have thoughts on serrations like this? Sorta bread knifeish. I find they cut really well, don’t snag and don’t beer off to the side much. Some that may have to do with the regrind on this resilience tho. Pretty thin edge
I'm very interested in serrations like this, and one of these days I'm going to make myself a jig that will allow me to grind serrations at a set angle and size that I want and then I'll be grinding them in everything.

Re: SE performance is more than simply teeth vs no teeth.

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:29 pm
by cabfrank
That is a fantastic Resilience!

Re: SE performance is more than simply teeth vs no teeth.

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 5:58 pm
by vivi
Drubieg wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:09 am
Image do you guys have thoughts on serrations like this? Sorta bread knifeish. I find they cut really well, don’t snag and don’t beer off to the side much. Some that may have to do with the regrind on this resilience tho. Pretty thin edge
those remind me of the serrations victorinox uses. shallow, every scallop the same depth, tips aren't very aggressive. I agree they snag less than a spikey spyderedge.

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Re: SE performance is more than simply teeth vs no teeth.

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:08 am
by Drubieg
It’s funny to feel like I’m carrying a folding bread knife, but these serrations just work. And they are much nicer (smoother) to sharpen

Re: SE performance is more than simply teeth vs no teeth.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:46 pm
by Danke
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Rocky Mountain version?

Re: SE performance is more than simply teeth vs no teeth.

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:23 am
by Ankerson
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Re: SE performance is more than simply teeth vs no teeth.

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:02 am
by Wartstein
Ankerson wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:23 am
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Nice!
And how does its serrated edge work for you?

Re: SE performance is more than simply teeth vs no teeth.

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:59 pm
by Evil D
Ankerson wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:23 am
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You need the big brother :cheap-sunglasses

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Re: SE performance is more than simply teeth vs no teeth.

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:21 pm
by petz462
Drubieg wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:09 am
Image do you guys have thoughts on serrations like this? Sorta bread knifeish. I find they cut really well, don’t snag and don’t beer off to the side much. Some that may have to do with the regrind on this resilience tho. Pretty thin edge
@Drubieg Like them alot. Care to explain how they came about? Thanks in advance!!

Re: SE performance is more than simply teeth vs no teeth.

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:23 pm
by Drubieg
petz462 wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:21 pm
Drubieg wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:09 am
Image do you guys have thoughts on serrations like this? Sorta bread knifeish. I find they cut really well, don’t snag and don’t beer off to the side much. Some that may have to do with the regrind on this resilience tho. Pretty thin edge
@Drubieg Like them alot. Care to explain how they came about? Thanks in advance!!
David Mary did the regrind and serrations. They were done with the big drum on a dremel

Re: SE performance is more than simply teeth vs no teeth.

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:50 pm
by petz462
Drubieg wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:23 pm
petz462 wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:21 pm
Drubieg wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:09 am
Image do you guys have thoughts on serrations like this? Sorta bread knifeish. I find they cut really well, don’t snag and don’t beer off to the side much. Some that may have to do with the regrind on this resilience tho. Pretty thin edge
@Drubieg Like them alot. Care to explain how they came about? Thanks in advance!!
David Mary did the regrind and serrations. They were done with the big drum on a dremel
Thanks. Looks like he does really excellent work.

Re: SE performance is more than simply teeth vs no teeth.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:13 am
by vivi
When I was browsing spydies today at a local gun & knife shop, I got to inspect a magnacut SE Native.

That knife has a seriously thin edge. FFG blade, chisel ground, very wide bevel on the show side.

I bet those slice extremely well.

Re: SE performance is more than simply teeth vs no teeth.

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:56 am
by Evil D
vivi wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:13 am
When I was browsing spydies today at a local gun & knife shop, I got to inspect a magnacut SE Native.

That knife has a seriously thin edge. FFG blade, chisel ground, very wide bevel on the show side.

I bet those slice extremely well.


It's a beast. I wish I didn't have to say it, but it slices better than my SE Military 2. This and the MagnaCut Native are both excellent in SE.

Re: SE performance is more than simply teeth vs no teeth.

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 8:50 pm
by hobbyist
vivi wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:13 am
When I was browsing spydies today at a local gun & knife shop, I got to inspect a magnacut SE Native.

That knife has a seriously thin edge. FFG blade, chisel ground, very wide bevel on the show side.

I bet those slice extremely well.
Native 5 or native chief?

Re: SE performance is more than simply teeth vs no teeth.

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:23 pm
by Wartstein
Evil D wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:56 am
vivi wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:13 am
hobbyist wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 8:50 pm
vivi wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:13 am
Native 5 or native chief?
It's a beast. I wish I didn't have to say it, but it slices better than my SE Military 2. This and the MagnaCut Native are both excellent in SE.
I´d also be interested in if the Chief has the same great serrations you´re talking about concerning the Native 5...

While I am not really interested in the "5", the Chief actually is an option for me - had only one in PE, and there I still prefer the Endura over the Chief, but if the latter has really great serrations, I still might get another one (in SE of course)...

Re: SE performance is more than simply teeth vs no teeth.

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:56 pm
by cabfrank
My Chief doesn't have the shallow serrations you're thinking of, like the Lil Temp 3 does for example. That said, it is SHARP. SHARP! I think the sharpest I've received, but they keep getting better it seems. Non-SE people would be shocked by the sharpness, and pointy or shallow SE lovers would be impressed.

Re: SE performance is more than simply teeth vs no teeth.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 6:39 am
by Evil D
Wartstein wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:23 pm
Evil D wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:56 am
vivi wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:13 am
hobbyist wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 8:50 pm
vivi wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:13 am
Native 5 or native chief?
It's a beast. I wish I didn't have to say it, but it slices better than my SE Military 2. This and the MagnaCut Native are both excellent in SE.
I´d also be interested in if the Chief has the same great serrations you´re talking about concerning the Native 5...

While I am not really interested in the "5", the Chief actually is an option for me - had only one in PE, and there I still prefer the Endura over the Chief, but if the latter has really great serrations, I still might get another one (in SE of course)...

They're not the mellow rounded kind like the Chaparral has but they're not super pointy and not ground really deep and they sharpen easily on the 30 slots on the Sharpmaker so overall I like them. I can round off the tips through sharpening so the more important thing for me is that they're easy to sharpen on the 30 slots right out of the box so you don't have to do any heavy reprofiling.

The Military 2 looks like they're ground on the same grinding wheel as the Chief but they're at a lower angle, the 30 degree slots hit the shoulder of the serrations so I have to sharpen it on the 40 slots to hit the edge. Not really the end of the world but I wish they were all ground to work on the 30 slots.

I will say the Military 2 serrations are better than my older 2009 Military 1 serrations.

Re: SE performance is more than simply teeth vs no teeth.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:49 pm
by Wartstein
@cabfrank @Evil D thanks, guys!
Might have to try the Chief in SE - the BD1N is pretty affordable, and I was happy enough with that steel in SE when I tried it in a Para 3 LW.
As I personally often find though: The SE chisel grind also makes tips more acute, something I don´t want in the anyway very fine already of the Chief (same is true for the Stretch XL).