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Re: Boye dent
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2024 8:14 pm
by RazorSharp86
gk4ever2 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2024 10:21 pm
I agree with those who said to use a fixed blade – you can grip it as tightly as needed without concern for blade play, lock disengagement and so on. I have always said to use the right tool for the job. Why use a sub-optimal tool when a better one is readily available?
I like back lock knives, with or without the Boye dent. It is good to know their limitations though.
Next time I’ll think twice before cutting a block of cheese with my Native Chief, and go fetch a fixed blade. You’re right.
Re: Boye dent
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:22 pm
by R100
I for one love the Boye dent. I think it looks great and the way it indexes the thumb improves usability. Lockbacks are my preferred lock type and I'm always a little disappointed when I get one with no dent. Not a huge deal but it's a little Spyderco touch I really appreciate.
Dan
Re: Boye dent
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:56 pm
by vivi
gk4ever2 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2024 10:21 pm
I agree with those who said to use a fixed blade – you can grip it as tightly as needed without concern for blade play, lock disengagement and so on. I have always said to use the right tool for the job. Why use a sub-optimal tool when a better one is readily available?
I like back lock knives, with or without the Boye dent. It is good to know their limitations though.
I think cutting an apple in half is within the limitations of $200 lockback folders.
Re: Boye dent
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:50 pm
by jwbnyc
I’d rather have them than not, but I don’t add them if not present already and it doesn’t affect my purchase decisions one way or the other.
Re: Boye dent
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:17 pm
by gk4ever2
RazorSharp86 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2024 8:14 pm
gk4ever2 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2024 10:21 pm
I agree with those who said to use a fixed blade – you can grip it as tightly as needed without concern for blade play, lock disengagement and so on. I have always said to use the right tool for the job. Why use a sub-optimal tool when a better one is readily available?
I like back lock knives, with or without the Boye dent. It is good to know their limitations though.
Next time I’ll think twice before cutting a block of cheese with my Native Chief, and go fetch a fixed blade. You’re right.
A block of cheese is fairly tough to cut through. For smaller blocks, I use an old plain edge steak knife with a 4.5" blade that is ground pretty thin – it does a decent job. If I had a larger block of cheese, I would definitely want a larger knife.
Re: Boye dent
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:51 pm
by gk4ever2
vivi wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:56 pm
gk4ever2 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2024 10:21 pm
I agree with those who said to use a fixed blade – you can grip it as tightly as needed without concern for blade play, lock disengagement and so on. I have always said to use the right tool for the job. Why use a sub-optimal tool when a better one is readily available?
I like back lock knives, with or without the Boye dent. It is good to know their limitations though.
I think cutting an apple in half is within the limitations of $200 lockback folders.
I like to cut apples into wedges, and for small-medium size apples a steak knife with a 4.5" PE blade is ok. A Native Chief (my favorite Spyderco) could be used instead for an apple, but I prefer not to get the apple gunk on a folder (plus I don't use food-safe lube). For a large apple I wanted a longer blade, so I found a knife with a taller 5.25" fixed blade that does a great job.
Not long ago I bought a Spyderco Sustain with a 6.2" long, .118" thick PE fixed blade – I have been thinking about using it as a kitchen knife.
Re: Boye dent
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:56 pm
by araneae
I created a poll about 4 years ago that showed a strong majority here either preferred a Boye dent or had no strong preference. It was something like 65/35.
Re: Boye dent
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 10:45 am
by Aladinsane
FWIW I have had my Leafjumper sans Boye Dent for a week now, and try as I might with many different grips and cutting and bearing down, I can't get the blade to loosen, rattle, or otherwise budge until I consciously push the lock with my fingertip.
Re: Boye dent
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 1:54 pm
by RazorSharp86
Aladinsane wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2024 10:45 am
FWIW I have had my Leafjumper sans Boye Dent for a week now, and try as I might with many different grips and cutting and bearing down, I can't get the blade to loosen, rattle, or otherwise budge until I consciously push the lock with my fingertip.
This is the way it should be with every properly designed and executed lockback knife.
I wish they were all like that.
Re: Boye dent
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:00 am
by SpyderEdgeForever
Sal and Eric please keep making knives with the Boye Dent. It is unique, functional, and beautiful.
Re: Boye dent
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:37 am
by RazorSharp86
SpyderEdgeForever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:00 am
Sal and Eric please keep making knives with the Boye Dent. It is unique, functional, and beautiful.
I concur!
After rotating a bunch of knives in ky collection, since making this op, I’ve paid very close attention to the difference between knives with the dent and without.
I can say for certain that the backlocks with boye dent offer a tremendous advantage in easy of locating the lock when closing the knife, without having to look at it. It is very perceptible, especially on the longer handles where the finger doesn’t naturally “fall into place”.
Also, whether coincidence or not, these models with boye dent appear (to me at least) to have less play (if any) when squeezed hard during cutting.
Re: Boye dent
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:02 pm
by endura3
RazorSharp86 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:37 am
SpyderEdgeForever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:00 am
Sal and Eric please keep making knives with the Boye Dent. It is unique, functional, and beautiful.
I concur!
After rotating a bunch of knives in ky collection, since making this op, I’ve paid very close attention to the difference between knives with the dent and without.
I can say for certain that the backlocks with boye dent offer a tremendous advantage in easy of locating the lock when closing the knife, without having to look at it. It is very perceptible, especially on the longer handles where the finger doesn’t naturally “fall into place”.
Also, whether coincidence or not, these models with boye dent appear (to me at least) to have less play (if any) when squeezed hard during cutting.
That ability to easily index/find the lockbar cutout is my favorite benefit of the boye dent, especially when wearing gloves. When I first got into Spydercos, I actually assumed that was the dent's primary purpose. It wasn't until years later that I learned it was actually primarily designed to minimize lock wobble when the knife is gripped tightly.
Re: Boye dent
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 10:56 pm
by Wartstein
endura3 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:02 pm
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It wasn't until years later that I learned it was actually primarily designed to minimize lock wobble when the knife is gripped tightly.
But is it? (Honest question, I don´t know!)
Not sure if you read earlier in this thread how "Endura 3" (forum member) found and pointed out that "wobble or not" actually has much more to do with the position of the lockbar pivot (see his post here
viewtopic.php?p=1809923#p1809923)
I may share the pic I made following what "Endura 3" found:
Goddard: "Wobble", despite it has a boye dent, cause the lockbar pivot is very close to
the furthest forward where I grip the knife
Endura: No "wobble", cause that distance is much bigger
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Re: Boye dent
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:47 am
by Brock O Lee
Like many others, I also like the Boye Dent for indexing and a rattle-free death-grip experience.
I noticed the rattle on my Chief's, Sirens and Police 4. Not ideal, but I live with it.