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elena86 wrote:
Does the handle offer enough grip in a virtual stabbing motion ? I wonder if that small guard offers enough security also.Just curious.

I think it is less than ideal for stabbing. The guard is enough to provide indexing when you are higher up on the handle, but probably isn't substantial enough to stop you if you slipped.

Also, the thumb ramp is very shallow.

The handle feels very secure in a reverse ice pick grip. Placing my thumb over the rear guard seems very solid.

elena86 wrote:

Archimedes wrote:This knife is amazing. I love how it rides in the pocket, secure but smooth. Open it up and it is like a laser slicer. It seems smaller by a pretty big margin than a Military but it is not. I am enchanted with this knife right now.

Does the handle offer enough grip in a virtual stabbing motion ? I wonder if that small guard offers enough security also.Just curious.

The knife offers a lot of grip. But more for cutting chores. You could stab with it, I mean you can stab with a screw driver, but that is not what it is about. This knife for me represents just a great everyday carry for the things I end up cutting. I tend to do food prep, open boxes, bags, cut things in the garden. For what I do it may prove perfect.

Able Dog wrote:

elena86 wrote:
Does the handle offer enough grip in a virtual stabbing motion ? I wonder if that small guard offers enough security also.Just curious.

I think it is less than ideal for stabbing. The guard is enough to provide indexing when you are higher up on the handle, but probably isn't substantial enough to stop you if you slipped.

Also, the thumb ramp is very shallow.

The handle feels very secure in a reverse ice pick grip. Placing my thumb over the rear guard seems very solid.

Grip security also comes from your grip, not just the design of the handle. A thumb ramp isn't necessary to keep your hand from sliding forward, and will hurt your thumb if you do.

Focusing your grip on the last three fingers of the hand yields the strongest grip, just like a judoka, or holding a pistol.

I haven't handled a Pattada, and I believe you that the handle isn't optimal for stabbing, just wanted to point this out. Most people focus on a saber grip, which isn't as secure as other methods of gripping a knife.

Yeah, I remember Michael Janich explaining about that in some of his Yojimbo 2 interviews.

Even accounting for that, I wouldn't choose the Pattada as a tactical knife over something more purpose built.

I do really like the knife for light->moderate EDC use. I did a lot of food prep on Mothers Day with the Pattada and it performed admirably.

I'd really like to handle one, curious just how thin it is behind the edge.

How does the Italian fit and finish compare to the Taichung offerings? (Which have been immaculate!)

bayvillageidiot wrote:How does the Italian fit and finish compare to the Taichung offerings? (Which have been immaculate!)

It is comparable with Taichung models, at least in my experience. The wide price range of Taichung produced knives does leave room for some variance in finishing and complexity of design though. For example, the inside of the liners on the Pattada are finished to a higher level than those on the GB2. But the Pattada also costs another $40 or so. The finishing on the blade is very nice. The flats and spine have a satin finish that is very similar to the quality of the satin finish on Golden produced knives, but the tang and guard show signs of stonewashing also being involved.

The contoured G10 doesn't have the high polish of the Vallotton or Hungarian, but the quality of the work seems just as nice.

All of the screws and hardware seem to be of top quality as well. Pivot smoothness is wonderful, and the blade centering is perfect.

Studey wrote:I'd really like to handle one, curious just how thin it is behind the edge.

I don't have any calipers, but according to my highly-sensitive fingers the Pattada is a bit thinner behind the edge than my Military or Police. It isn't going to be Nilakka thin, or anything like that. The spine isn't all that thin to begin with, but the tip is especially needle-like. It makes the tip of my Yojimbo 2 look beefy. I didn't measure the exact factory edge either, but it came <30 degrees, this was noticed when using the 30 degree position on my Sharpmaker.

Able Dog wrote:

bayvillageidiot wrote:How does the Italian fit and finish compare to the Taichung offerings? (Which have been immaculate!)

It is comparable with Taichung models, at least in my experience. The wide price range of Taichung produced knives does leave room for some variance in finishing and complexity of design though. For example, the inside of the liners on the Pattada are finished to a higher level than those on the GB2. But the Pattada also costs another $40 or so. The finishing on the blade is very nice. The flats and spine have a satin finish that is very similar to the quality of the satin finish on Golden produced knives, but the tang and guard show signs of stonewashing also being involved.

The contoured G10 doesn't have the high polish of the Vallotton or Hungarian, but the quality of the work seems just as nice.

All of the screws and hardware seem to be of top quality as well. Pivot smoothness is wonderful, and the blade centering is perfect.

Studey wrote:I'd really like to handle one, curious just how thin it is behind the edge.

I don't have any calipers, but according to my highly-sensitive fingers the Pattada is a bit thinner behind the edge than my Military or Police. It isn't going to be Nilakka thin, or anything like that. The spine isn't all that thin to begin with, but the tip is especially needle-like. It makes the tip of my Yojimbo 2 look beefy. I didn't measure the exact factory edge either, but it came <30 degrees, this was noticed when using the 30 degree position on my Sharpmaker.

Thank you AD! I'm glad to hear that. I've had such a run of perfect Spydie products out of Taichung (and Golden, for that matter.)
It's good to hear that the Italians are up to spec as well.