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Thanks for the correction.

I was in fact thinking of Microclean when i wrote Bohler as i hastily composed that message before work that morning.

cjk wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:41 pm

Enactive wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:34 am

chronovore wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 18, 2025 9:48 pm

SpeedHoles wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:31 pm

Bit sad to browse through some of this thread now... All of the positive responses, all of the optimism, hope, and expectation for future renditions... And now disco'ed!? Too bad.
Glad I have a K390... But makes me wonder what else could have been if it caught on more mainstream.

Does this mean the Endela won the overlap battle?


I also laughed a bit at the guy who said it was his favorite Spydie, then surprise edited to then say he flipped his mood and hates it. About the only negative I saw in the thread!

I love my RockJumper and run it with an MXG clip. I was interested in the LeafJumper but where I'm at, it's just hard to justify another knife in VG-10. Yeah, I know K390 is a thing but I really prefer stainless. I could live with 3V, Cru-Wear, or Micro-Melt; but I'd prefer MagnaCut, SPY27, or S45VN...

That said, who makes aftermarket scales for these?

FYI, Micro-Melt is Bohler's terminology for their third gen PM process. It is not a grade designator, I'm guessing you meant PD1?

CTS, CPM and Micro-Melt are the PM designators from Carpenter, Crucible and Bohler respectively.

The MICRO-MELT trademark belongs to CRS HOLDINGS, LLC .
https://trademarks.justia.com/742/57/mi ... 57392.html
Looking at the other trademarks owned by CRS HOLDINGS, LLC, it appears to be Carpenter.
https://trademarks.justia.com/owners/cr ... c-4903994/

Micro-melt PD#1:
https://www.carpentertechnology.com/all ... o-melt-pd1
Micro-melt Maxamet:
https://www.carpentertechnology.com/hub ... axamet.pdf

Suingab makes scales for the Rockjumper/Leafjumper thanks to @JSumm .

SpeedHoles wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 20, 2025 4:20 pm

Enactive wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:34 am

chronovore wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 18, 2025 9:48 pm

SpeedHoles wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:31 pm

Bit sad to browse through some of this thread now... All of the positive responses, all of the optimism, hope, and expectation for future renditions... And now disco'ed!? Too bad.
Glad I have a K390... But makes me wonder what else could have been if it caught on more mainstream.

Does this mean the Endela won the overlap battle?


I also laughed a bit at the guy who said it was his favorite Spydie, then surprise edited to then say he flipped his mood and hates it. About the only negative I saw in the thread!

I love my RockJumper and run it with an MXG clip. I was interested in the LeafJumper but where I'm at, it's just hard to justify another knife in VG-10. Yeah, I know K390 is a thing but I really prefer stainless. I could live with 3V, Cru-Wear, or Micro-Melt; but I'd prefer MagnaCut, SPY27, or S45VN...

That said, who makes aftermarket scales for these?

FYI, Micro-Melt is Bohler's terminology for their third gen PM process. It is not a grade designator, I'm guessing you meant PD1?

CTS, CPM and Micro-Melt are the PM designators from Carpenter, Crucible and Bohler respectively.

Yeah like cjk clarified, it's Carpenter.
Maybe you were thinking of "Microclean" and Böhler?

Enactive wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 20, 2025 6:36 pm

Thanks for the correction.

I was in fact thinking of Microclean when i wrote Bohler as i hastily composed that message before work that morning.

cjk wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:41 pm

Enactive wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:34 am

chronovore wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 18, 2025 9:48 pm

I love my RockJumper and run it with an MXG clip. I was interested in the LeafJumper but where I'm at, it's just hard to justify another knife in VG-10. Yeah, I know K390 is a thing but I really prefer stainless. I could live with 3V, Cru-Wear, or Micro-Melt; but I'd prefer MagnaCut, SPY27, or S45VN...

That said, who makes aftermarket scales for these?

FYI, Micro-Melt is Bohler's terminology for their third gen PM process. It is not a grade designator, I'm guessing you meant PD1?

CTS, CPM and Micro-Melt are the PM designators from Carpenter, Crucible and Bohler respectively.

The MICRO-MELT trademark belongs to CRS HOLDINGS, LLC .
https://trademarks.justia.com/742/57/mi ... 57392.html
Looking at the other trademarks owned by CRS HOLDINGS, LLC, it appears to be Carpenter.
https://trademarks.justia.com/owners/cr ... c-4903994/

Micro-melt PD#1:
https://www.carpentertechnology.com/all ... o-melt-pd1
Micro-melt Maxamet:
https://www.carpentertechnology.com/hub ... axamet.pdf

Suingab makes scales for the Rockjumper/Leafjumper thanks to @JSumm .

SpeedHoles wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 20, 2025 4:20 pm

Enactive wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:34 am

chronovore wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 18, 2025 9:48 pm

I love my RockJumper and run it with an MXG clip. I was interested in the LeafJumper but where I'm at, it's just hard to justify another knife in VG-10. Yeah, I know K390 is a thing but I really prefer stainless. I could live with 3V, Cru-Wear, or Micro-Melt; but I'd prefer MagnaCut, SPY27, or S45VN...

That said, who makes aftermarket scales for these?

FYI, Micro-Melt is Bohler's terminology for their third gen PM process. It is not a grade designator, I'm guessing you meant PD1?

CTS, CPM and Micro-Melt are the PM designators from Carpenter, Crucible and Bohler respectively.

Yeah like cjk clarified, it's Carpenter.
Maybe you were thinking of "Microclean" and Böhler?

No worries, I'm pretty sure it was implied it was PD#1 anyway regarding the 'Jumper, since that was a recent flavor a lot of the Seki goods just got treated to...

Enactive wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:34 am

FYI, Micro-Melt is Bohler's terminology for their third gen PM process. It is not a grade designator, I'm guessing you meant PD1?

CTS, CPM and Micro-Melt are the PM designators from Carpenter, Crucible and Bohler respectively.

You are correct! I meant "Micro-Melt® PD#1". Coincidentally, I don't like that they put the latter symbol in the name since it has long since become the "hashtag" online.

chronovore wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 22, 2025 9:57 pm

Enactive wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:34 am

FYI, Micro-Melt is Bohler's terminology for their third gen PM process. It is not a grade designator, I'm guessing you meant PD1?

CTS, CPM and Micro-Melt are the PM designators from Carpenter, Crucible and Bohler respectively.

You are correct! I meant "Micro-Melt® PD#1". Coincidentally, I don't like that they put the latter symbol in the name since it has long since become the "hashtag" online.

Nice.

It's good stuff. I like CruWear a lot and have several pieces of it, I got an Endela sprint in PD1 to try the model. I don't usually like coated blades. It's a cool knife.

I got it the same time I got the LJ, and I really like the Jumper so much I barely have used the Endela.

knivesandbooks wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 14, 2025 11:17 pm

I picked up one up in K390 from a dealer recently. Just wanted a beater K390 knife. First Seki model I’ve purchased in probably 6 years. The action is way better on this, better even than my pakkawood Endura and my back lock Manix. It’s a very good back lock action, even free falls when the lock is disengaged. My problem is that for hard cuts, the knife is downright uncomfortable. I figured out the biggest problem with it is the pocket clip. I took the pocket clip off and it is so much better. I put the pocket clip so the knife carries tip down and it is so much better. BUT the screws are too long so if I make it tip down carry, the screws scrape against the blade. You can feel it just scraping as the knife struggles to open/close. It’s a bummer. Not sure why you’d offer the knife tapped for tip down if you’re not going to provide the correct sized hardware for it to be mounted that way. Now it doesn’t have a pocket clip and doesn’t get carried. Just use it to cut trash in the garage.

I noticed the same thing on the Rockjumper I bought for a family member. I also repositioned the clip for tip-down-carry out of ergonomic reasons. Also I found the screws to be too long and filed them down sloppily. They are a tad too short now but at least the knife functions as I want it to.

That's a shame. I hope such a simple oversight didn't contribute to the demise of the Jumpers.

cabfrank wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:55 am

That's a shame. I hope such a simple oversight didn't contribute to the demise of the Jumpers.

I don´t think so..
... but rather still that "the market" just did not really realize that the Jumpers are about a whole new concept (backlock handle forward) for Spyderco.

No marketing expert by any means, but I do just think that more obvious and explicit pointing out of that concept, its novelty and advantages could have helped.

Also, as I´ve said before:
Sadly (and NOT how I personally feel at all!!) "just another black linered FRN Spyderco in "old" and unexciting VG10" does not really make the average knife buyer make look closer into a model, and so many folks might have missed right from the get go what the Jumpers actually offer (many in their minds might just already HAVE enough "black FRN Spydies in VG10" and the Jumper size range).

A "vehicle" to bring the handle forward concept to the market and make more people try and realize and "spread the word" about its advantages might have helped: For example bringing out the Jumpers in linerless FRN in a new color and as true Salt knives in the first place or something along that lines...

Just my 2 c once more.

Man, I think this is one of the most comfortable handles ever for hard cutting. The Rockjumper absolutely rips through layer after layer of cardboard.

Still loving both of my serrated Jumpers, carried my K390 Leaf all this weekend.

I'm contemplating buying another just to have it. Found one for 60 bucks. That's hard to ignore.

JayHenMac wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:20 pm

I'm contemplating buying another just to have it. Found one for 60 bucks. That's hard to ignore.

These are the type of deals, especially on a disco'ed knife, that I'll always look back on in hindsight and be like dang, why didn't I grab another...
But, I also have to consciously fight the urge to unnecessarily hoard, and just be happy with what I've got...

SpeedHoles wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:32 pm

But, I also have to consciously fight the urge to unnecessarily hoard, and just be happy with what I've got...

One of the best financial lessons my Dad ever taught me was that if you're saving money on something you don't need you're not really saving any money.

Obviously, I ignore this advice a lot, but it really is great advice.

SpeedHoles wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:32 pm

JayHenMac wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:20 pm

I'm contemplating buying another just to have it. Found one for 60 bucks. That's hard to ignore.

These are the type of deals, especially on a disco'ed knife, that I'll always look back on in hindsight and be like dang, why didn't I grab another...
But, I also have to consciously fight the urge to unnecessarily hoard, and just be happy with what I've got...

If I only own one of a given knife model, that's an indication I didn't warm up to it very much. I always double up at the least on models I really like, particularly if they're getting discontinued or are discontinued. Military 2, C95 Manix, Pacific Salt 1, Aqua Salts, Street Beats, Police 3 & 4, etc.

vivi wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:33 pm

SpeedHoles wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:32 pm

JayHenMac wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:20 pm

I'm contemplating buying another just to have it. Found one for 60 bucks. That's hard to ignore.

These are the type of deals, especially on a disco'ed knife, that I'll always look back on in hindsight and be like dang, why didn't I grab another...
But, I also have to consciously fight the urge to unnecessarily hoard, and just be happy with what I've got...

If I only own one of a given knife model, that's an indication I didn't warm up to it very much. I always double up at the least on models I really like, particularly if they're getting discontinued or are discontinued. Military 2, C95 Manix, Pacific Salt 1, Aqua Salts, Street Beats, Police 3 & 4, etc.

I totally agree with this, but for me I did love the Rock Jumping but I was blown away by the Bodacious and it basically killed my interest in owning another 'Jumper. Sometimes Spyderco are their own worst competition. I've even eased up a lot about how rigid I used to be about buying knives that I only had a real use for, I've bought quite a few just for the enjoyment what they are and I've overlooked details that I normally would refuse to buy, but you can't buy them all I guess.

I would still be very interested in the Sequoia and Cliff Jumper concepts if they ever make larger versions, but then if a Bodacious XL ever happens then the cycle continues.

vivi wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:33 pm

SpeedHoles wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:32 pm

JayHenMac wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:20 pm

I'm contemplating buying another just to have it. Found one for 60 bucks. That's hard to ignore.

These are the type of deals, especially on a disco'ed knife, that I'll always look back on in hindsight and be like dang, why didn't I grab another...
But, I also have to consciously fight the urge to unnecessarily hoard, and just be happy with what I've got...

If I only own one of a given knife model, that's an indication I didn't warm up to it very much. I always double up at the least on models I really like, particularly if they're getting discontinued or are discontinued. Military 2, C95 Manix, Pacific Salt 1, Aqua Salts, Street Beats, Police 3 & 4, etc.

Yep, I'm of the same approach. But my model selection gets way too expansive so I only select my absolute favorites to then get different variants and backups.
Anyone who has ever looked for a "back up" after the model or flavor got disco'ed, well, they'll know instantly that's even more costly and worse than "spending money to save money" initially.
Good tools rarely lose value. But, like in the case of some of these designs, we don't always recognize good tools until you use them for a bit...

In the past I was of the mind that variety was more important than having several variants of one design but I've totally 180'ed on that way of thinking and now would rather have steel variants that perform differently in a design that I love a lot than having several different really good but not favorite designs.

Wartstein wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 23, 2025 9:40 pm

... but rather still that "the market" just did not really realize that the Jumpers are about a whole new concept (backlock handle forward) for Spyderco.

No marketing expert by any means, but I do just think that more obvious and explicit pointing out of that concept, its novelty and advantages could have helped.

Also, as I´ve said before:
Sadly (and NOT how I personally feel at all!!) "just another black linered FRN Spyderco in "old" and unexciting VG10" does not really make the average knife buyer make look closer into a model, and so many folks might have missed right from the get go what the Jumpers actually offer (many in their minds might just already HAVE enough "black FRN Spydies in VG10" and the Jumper size range).

A "vehicle" to bring the handle forward concept to the market and make more people try and realize and "spread the word" about its advantages might have helped: For example bringing out the Jumpers in linerless FRN in a new color and as true Salt knives in the first place or something along that lines...

Just my 2 c once more.

I largely agree here. I love Spyderco but there are some places where they feel increasingly behind the times. While I think VG-10 is an adequate EDC steel, it isn't exciting either in the market at large or among Spyderco models. Had the Jumpers been available in SPY27, S45VN, MagnaCut, or even LC200N; that both would have set it apart from the pack and been a separate reason to pick it up.

There is also that the combination of VG-10 and FRN feels increasingly overpriced. (This is radically worse for FRN and 8Cr13Mov.) While I like FRN in some cases, it is cheap and consumers know it. Further, the "G10 upcharge" is nuts with Spyderco, with the difference between FRN and G10 on a model often being more than an entire budget knife in G10 or Micarta and a reasonable (or sometimes comparable) budget steel.

Anyway, do either the Rock or Leaf Jumper in any of those steels and I'll bite!

I bought a leafjumper to get into K390 because of the price. All I can say is wow, great ergonomics and I can fidget with its kickback as well as the compression lock. It’s amazing. Things I don’t like are primarily the grind, very uneven though sharp. One of these days I’ll get around to evening it out. I do wish there was a nicer handle option and a clip that was meant for it, but I understand the knife is discontinued. I’ll probably end up getting another just to stave off FOMO but I love the knife. Makes me want to get a stretch 2 K390 now even though I don’t like FRN. Overall fantastic blade and steel. Wish more people were attracted to it.

Carried my Rockjumper today - what a fantastic knife. Great handle, great action, and a very efficient slicer.

It does seem like I have to sharpen it a lot. I guess I should do a better job sharpening.

sal wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 12, 2025 11:37 pm

Hi Jayrod,

The Leaf Jumper is tooled for FRN, so if you, the market, wants a sprint run in the future, no problem.

sal

Felt like this should be here. From the Seki backlock quality in 2022 thread. Maybe it's time for a LeafJumper in a bright handle color.