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Re: CPM-154/S90V Composite Carbon Fiber Native 5
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:11 pm
by elena86
I like how the looks of it quite a lot. More than the ffg one.This one might be my first Native5.Don't care if it's not a great slicer.For me it's important how thin is behind the edge.
Re: CPM-154/S90V Composite Carbon Fiber Native 5
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:25 pm
by bh49
Also Fluted CF looks better and contoured handle feels better in my hand.
For me, personally Fluted CF N5 is the knife of the 2017.
Re: CPM-154/S90V Composite Carbon Fiber Native 5
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:36 pm
by RamZar
bh49 wrote:Also Fluted CF looks better and contoured handle feels better in my hand.
For me, personally Fluted CF N5 is the knife of the 2017.
The KC-exclusive Native5 with linerless green G-10 and S90V is pretty sweet too specially since it's just $140!
Re: CPM-154/S90V Composite Carbon Fiber Native 5
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:17 pm
by phaust
RamZar wrote:bh49 wrote:RamZar wrote:According to BladeHQ, the Sprint Run Native5 with CPM-S90V/CPM-154 composite steel blade (saber grind), textured peel-ply carbon fiber handle and weighing 3.90 ounces will start shipping in December 2017 for $215.97. For the same price you can get the beautiful fluted CF with S90V (FFG) and it weighs just 2.83 ounces!
It also FFG.
Maybe I am missing something really great, but I have zero interest in this knife at this time. I do not see any benefits of S90V/CPM154 over plain S90V in my use. And cannot imagine this knife would ever replace Fluted CF N5 in my pocket.
Practically speaking, with the fluted CF model you get more for the same price. Of course, it costs more to manufacture the composite blade but it also costs more to manufacture the fluted CF. However, with the fluted CF you not only get the same steel blade performance (advantage FFG over Saber) but in a lighter (by a whole ounce) and more aesthetically-pleasing package. I'm all for technical progress but I think the days of composite blades are over.
Does it actually cost more to manufacture a composite blade on a knife? I thought it was the opposite and that is one reason it gets used; the finishing is easier on the softer steel, and the outer layers are a cheaper steel than the core causing the whole material cost to go down.
Re: CPM-154/S90V Composite Carbon Fiber Native 5
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:36 am
by RamZar
phaust wrote:RamZar wrote:bh49 wrote:RamZar wrote:According to BladeHQ, the Sprint Run Native5 with CPM-S90V/CPM-154 composite steel blade (saber grind), textured peel-ply carbon fiber handle and weighing 3.90 ounces will start shipping in December 2017 for $215.97. For the same price you can get the beautiful fluted CF with S90V (FFG) and it weighs just 2.83 ounces!
It also FFG.
Maybe I am missing something really great, but I have zero interest in this knife at this time. I do not see any benefits of S90V/CPM154 over plain S90V in my use. And cannot imagine this knife would ever replace Fluted CF N5 in my pocket.
Practically speaking, with the fluted CF model you get more for the same price. Of course, it costs more to manufacture the composite blade but it also costs more to manufacture the fluted CF. However, with the fluted CF you not only get the same steel blade performance (advantage FFG over Saber) but in a lighter (by a whole ounce) and more aesthetically-pleasing package. I'm all for technical progress but I think the days of composite blades are over.
Does it actually cost more to manufacture a composite blade on a knife? I thought it was the opposite and that is one reason it gets used; the finishing is easier on the softer steel, and the outer layers are a cheaper steel than the core causing the whole material cost to go down.
The idea behind composite blades was to have cheaper steel for the spine and the more expensive steel for the edge. However, the manufacturing process is expensive just like it's more expensive to mill the fluted CF than to make peel ply CF.
Re: CPM-154/S90V Composite Carbon Fiber Native 5
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:06 am
by bh49
RamZar wrote:
The KC-exclusive Native5 with linerless green G-10 and S90V is pretty sweet too specially since it's just $140!
Please, do not start. I am still resisting. Just got dark green Milly.
Re: CPM-154/S90V Composite Carbon Fiber Native 5
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:34 pm
by RamZar
Re: CPM-154/S90V Composite Carbon Fiber Native 5
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:23 pm
by RamZar
https://youtu.be/45Qksuxe1cs
Re: CPM-154/S90V Composite Carbon Fiber Native 5
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:10 pm
by RadioactiveSpyder
Well, that video sure did it for me! Ordered. :)
Re: CPM-154/S90V Composite Carbon Fiber Native 5
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:37 pm
by nicked.onaut
RadioactiveSpyder wrote:Well, that video sure did it for me! Ordered. :)
Effective influence by Tyler. I succumbed also.
Novel Native saber grind was the camel straw.
Re: CPM-154/S90V Composite Carbon Fiber Native 5
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:47 pm
by RamZar
On second thought, it's a unique Native5 with both the composite blade and that saber grind!
Re: CPM-154/S90V Composite Carbon Fiber Native 5
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:08 pm
by ABX2011
Great looking knife. Kudos to Spyderco for making it.
Re: CPM-154/S90V Composite Carbon Fiber Native 5
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:38 pm
by GH9000
I’m sold. The pics and video did it in for me. Can’t wait to have it in hand.
Re: CPM-154/S90V Composite Carbon Fiber Native 5
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:57 pm
by Carbon85
this thing sucks
i wish they would release the para3 cf / s90 sprint before this thing
Re: CPM-154/S90V Composite Carbon Fiber Native 5
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:07 pm
by GH9000
I’ve been waitin on that one too... since March. It’s all good though. It’ll come.
Re: CPM-154/S90V Composite Carbon Fiber Native 5
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:09 pm
by GH9000
Carbon85 wrote:this thing sucks
i wish they would release the para3 cf / s90 sprint before this thing
If you like big knives get the ti/cf Millie at knifeworks. It’s friggin awesome. A lot of ways similar. A lot of ways better.
Re: CPM-154/S90V Composite Carbon Fiber Native 5
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:16 pm
by bh49
I do not care about uniqueness and totally hate the grind. I will pass on this knife with pleasure.
