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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 4:16 pm
by Drahkis
RIOT wrote:a choil would end my love for the delica.
and what would this world be coming to if a collection like Riot's became unloved?!?!?

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 4:37 pm
by RIOT
Drahkis wrote:and what would this world be coming to if a collection like Riot's became unloved?!?!?
i would be lost, no appetite, lonely, confused & out on the prowl for some strange lol

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:03 pm
by sal
We have to take that into consideration in our designing. Different knife afi's like or dislike certain features. The reason might be a functional feature, a perceived value like edge/blade/handle ratios, appearance, materials or even color. That's why variety is important. Designing for afi's has its challenges because the interest and passions drives the desire for deeper understanding, which means thedy know the difference in many things and have definite thoughts on those features.

sal

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:46 pm
by Evil D
sal wrote:We have to take that into consideration in our designing. Different knife afi's like or dislike certain features. The reason might be a functional feature, a perceived value like edge/blade/handle ratios, appearance, materials or even color. That's why variety is important. Designing for afi's has its challenges because the interest and passions drives the desire for deeper understanding, which means thedy know the difference in many things and have definite thoughts on those features.

sal

Not to sound like a kiss *** Sal but i think you guys do an awesome job catering to us afi's. I don't know many other companies that take in this much input from their customers and turn it around into a product. I think it would be really awesome if you set up a tour at the warehouse showing some past prototypes of things like a choiled Delica that never made it into production.

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:26 pm
by sal
We're always working on new displays for the outlet store. I'll keep that in mind.

sal

Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 12:12 am
by Paradiggum
Well the current Delica is possibly my favorite pocket knife. Whoever designed the ergos on it must have pretty much the same hands I do. It's like it was molded for me.

Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 7:17 am
by sal
Paradiggum wrote:Well the current Delica is possibly my favorite pocket knife. Whoever designed the ergos on it must have pretty much the same hands I do. It's like it was molded for me.
When Eric and I are designing or refining a model, we use the hands of many to try to refine the ergos.

sal

Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 11:54 am
by Koen Z
The only problem I have with the gap is with my Endura; I carry it tip down RH, and open it with a Spydiedrop. When I draw the knife a little sloppy, the gap sometimes catches my pocket.

Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 2:16 pm
by Luus
A choil would totally ruin the Delica IMHO. Making the D look like a giant DFly would be unwise. There is a reason for the Deli to be so populair. Its not the looks I guess, but the feel! Grab it and you're sold for life. Personally I don't find the gap between the blade and the handle an issue at all. If you take a look at the Fallkniven U2 you'll see that the blade sticks out in closed position. Now that would be a dealbreaker for me. In case of my (beloved) Delica it falls in the package and, again, the feel of the knife in your hand wipes any so-to-say aesthetics away just like that.

Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 2:19 pm
by Luus
I think, in term of aesthetics, the Delica is a beauty.

Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 11:33 pm
by clodus
I have to agree that the Centofante is indeed a good looking knife. I really like the silver spyder on it.
I like to keep one for formal occasions.

I have been looking at the Delica designs. I have to agree that removing the gap may be quite impossible. As doing so will indeed destroy the ego of the handle. But of course, this does not stop me from loving spyderco

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 8:48 am
by Jazz
RIOT wrote:a choil would end my love for the delica.
What he said! The gap is important in one hand closing - leave it be. Delicas and Enduras are beautiful.

How about making a larger version of the Dragonfly? That would be a sweet knife. No liners, just like the small one.

- best wishes, Jazz.

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 3:55 pm
by jnichols2
It's only a month since I bought my first Spyderco. I love my Enduras, and especially my Delicas. But I can't say I find either aesthetically beautiful. I never noticed the gap untill this thread pointed it out. As far as looks, it makes no difference.

I love these knives because they feel so right in my hand and work so well. That makes me not in favor of any changes thet would change how they feel or work.

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 5:11 pm
by sal
Hi Luus,

Welcome to the Spyderco forum.

I was in Apeldoorn in March. Very nice town.

sal

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:38 pm
by Donut
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't seen any model where 1/4 of the choil is on the blade and 3/4 of the choil is on the handle. Would that be a 25/75 or 75/25 choil?

A 50/50 choil seems to make good aesthetics while closed, I'm not sure how the above weighted choil would affect the looks while the knife is closed.

But... this would probably make for an entirely new model, not so much of a Delica.

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 7:30 am
by r small
The Delica is the Goldilocks of carry knives (not too big, not too small, etc.). Pretty much perfection. If it ain't broken don't fix it.

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 10:43 am
by vic
Blerv wrote:I like choils but hate losing cutting edge for them. Likewise, I like leg room in cars but not at the expense of a smaller engine ;) .
it wouldn't need to lose any cutting edge, plenty of room for choil

it's hardly a 1:1 ratio

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 1:54 pm
by Luus
Hi Sal, it would have been nice to have shaken hands (is that correct english?)

Just because I'm a Delica nut: is the FFG here to stay?
Greet from Holland

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 1:58 pm
by Donut
The FFG model has shifted to the black Endura/Delica. I would imagine that the 6 different colors would come to an end at some point. I wonder if the most popular color would stay in production.

Also, what IS the most popular color?

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 2:14 pm
by markg
I don't judge a knives looks while closed. That is sort of like saying an F-16 looks clunky on the ground with the landing gear down. But to each their own.

As for choils, I ONLY like them on knives where I don't have to use them if I don't want to (like the Para Military 2). That being said the Endura could pull this off but not the Delica. For many in the MBC crowd, there is a certain cult following for the Delica (for a few reasons I won't get into here)... Put a 50/50 choil on it and it is useless for this application. Between the Sage, Native, and Caly 3... There are more than enough knives that come equipped with 50/50 choils in this size range.