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Re: CPM Prototype Steel
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 5:58 am
by SpyderEdgeForever
I
am very glad you posted this Fireman. The future is what you said. Advanced composites of ultra hard ceramic materials built in such a way that they are both tough, elastic, and shock resistant. I am sure there will always be a market for carbon and stainless steel and also steel-ceramic mixes. Covalent bonds and ceramics are superb and Spyderco going ahead with that Mule was great.
Re: CPM Prototype Steel
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 6:09 am
by SpyderEdgeForever
I am very excited about this new steel. I wonder what a finished folder with it will look like.
Re: CPM Prototype Steel
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 7:10 am
by GarageBoy
Bradford Knives just made a post on their Instagram announcing CPM MagnaTuff? Is that the official name, or did Bradford just make one up for the time being?
Re: CPM Prototype Steel
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 7:20 am
by abbazaba
GarageBoy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 7:10 am
Bradford Knives just made a post on their Instagram announcing CPM MagnaTuff? Is that the official name, or did Bradford just make one up for the time being?
His newsletter says they made up the name
Re: CPM Prototype Steel
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:38 am
by electro-static
sal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:46 am
I guess that I should mention that Spyderco is also testing this new material.
sal
Will we see a mule team release for this one as well shortly after it’s announced?
Was it produced in a full sized smelt or in small research batch?
Re: CPM Prototype Steel
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 7:56 pm
by horzuff
Maybe there are a couple new steels? From the initial post I gathered that this one would be geared more towards edge retention than toughness as the MagnaTuff name implies
Re: CPM Prototype Steel
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:16 pm
by sal
electro-static wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:38 am
Was it produced in a full sized smelt or in small research batch?
Hi Electro-Static,
As I understand, it was a limited test batch sent to a number of players for feedback. I don't know who received samples, but I would guess samples went to all of the potential customers for the steel. Shawn received some, and we received some. Shawn has been sharing his information as he comes to conclusions. Personally, I'm glad that Shawn is playing with it and I would bet that he will also come up with some super heat treat specs to get the best performance from the final product.
I should have a piece to test,
Real World, soon. Mort is running lab tests now; CATRA, Corrosion resistance etc.
sal
Re: CPM Prototype Steel
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:58 pm
by abbazaba
Great info, thank you!
Re: CPM Prototype Steel
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:31 am
by electro-static
sal wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:16 pm
electro-static wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2024 10:38 am
Was it produced in a full sized smelt or in small research batch?
Hi Electro-Static,
As I understand, it was a limited test batch sent to a number of players for feedback. I don't know who received samples, but I would guess samples went to all of the potential customers for the steel. Shawn received some, and we received some. Shawn has been sharing his information as he comes to conclusions. Personally, I'm glad that Shawn is playing with it and I would bet that he will also come up with some super heat treat specs to get the best performance from the final product.
I should have a piece to test,
Real World, soon. Mort is running lab tests now; CATRA, Corrosion resistance etc.
sal
Thank you for information Sal! Shawn is a treasure to our community, he’s always on the bleeding edge of heat treatment and steel. I’m glad it’s being tested and you will get some in hand.
Re: CPM Prototype Steel
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 2:34 pm
by cjk
Just thinking out loud:
I'm wondering what the design goals for this steel were.
My wild guess is something along the lines of stainless 3V.
Re: CPM Prototype Steel
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:15 pm
by DevinT
Closer to K390 but stainless.
Hoss
Re: CPM Prototype Steel
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:57 pm
by Skidoosh
Mule please
Re: CPM Prototype Steel
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:11 pm
by Barmoley
DevinT wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:15 pm
Closer to K390 but stainless.
Hoss
Thank you Hoss.
Re: CPM Prototype Steel
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:53 am
by Fireman
I’m confused, the new magna steel is supposed to have similar edge retention as k390 but stainless? I thought this was the tougher version of magna cut.
Re: CPM Prototype Steel
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 5:19 am
by Wandering_About
I'll bet that if/when it's released to the public, Dr Thomas will release a lengthy article describing its design intent. I do seem to recall a chart or two posted that had MagnaWear on them but can't find where those were posted now... maybe they're hiding on Patreon.
If I had to guess, the new steel is an 8-10% vanadium content steel designed with the same principles of MagnaCut to be a stain resistant 10V/K390/Vanadis 8 class steel, but that's just more speculation on my part.
Re: CPM Prototype Steel
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 5:42 am
by Synov
Wandering_About wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 5:19 am
I do seem to recall a chart or two posted that had MagnaWear on them but can't find where those were posted now... maybe they're hiding on Patreon.
Re: CPM Prototype Steel
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 6:19 am
by Enactive
DevinT wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:15 pm
Closer to K390 but stainless.
Hoss
Thanks for the info, Hoss!
For those who don't know, Hoss (DevinT) is Larrin Thomas's father. He is a master smith and makes some of the best Damascus steel in the world.
Re: CPM Prototype Steel
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 6:28 am
by RustyIron
Enactive wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 6:19 am
DevinT wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:15 pm
Closer to K390 but stainless.
For those who don't know, Hoss (DevinT) is Larrin Thomas's father. He is a master smith and makes some of the best Damascus steel in the world.
Whaaaaat? So it's true? Stainless K390?
What will they think of next?
The 21st Century is indeed a glorious time.
Re: CPM Prototype Steel
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 7:04 am
by Wandering_About
Synov wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 5:42 am
Wandering_About wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 5:19 am
I do seem to recall a chart or two posted that had MagnaWear on them but can't find where those were posted now... maybe they're hiding on Patreon.
Thanks, that's the one I was thinking of!
Re: CPM Prototype Steel
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 7:11 am
by Pokey
Enactive wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 6:19 am
DevinT wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:15 pm
Closer to K390 but stainless.
Hoss
Thanks for the info, Hoss!
For those who don't know, Hoss (DevinT) is Larrin Thomas's father. He is a master smith and makes some of the best Damascus steel in the world.
Yes, I find Hoss' patterns are mesmerizing to look at and always keep me wondering, "How did he do that?"