Out of stock on purpose

[123Johnnyd]

Although Spyderco offers a significant discount to military, I believe they purposely do not stock their most popular production models so that veterans cannot benefit from the discount. They would sell too many at a discount. That’s why there isn’t a single black knife on their website that’s in stock. Also, these are all readily available from other distributors, just not from the company who makes them. Thanks for nothing Spyderco.

[TazKristi]

Although Spyderco offers a significant discount to military, I believe they purposely do not stock their most popular production models so that veterans cannot benefit from the discount. They would sell too many at a discount. That’s why there isn’t a single black knife on their website that’s in stock. Also, these are all readily available from other distributors, just not from the company who makes them. Thanks for nothing Spyderco.

Hi, 123Johnnyd:
Perhaps you're unfamiliar with our website, but numerous black bladed models are available on our site right now. I think you'll find most OpFocus customers would strongly disagree with you. If there is a particular model you're interested in that is out of stock, I'd highly recommend you click on the "Notify Me When Available" button. You can sign up for a notification and be alerted as soon as more are available.

Thank you for your service.

Kristi

[vivi]

blacked out police - https://spyderco.com/products/police-mo ... lack-blade

blacked out manix xl - https://spyderco.com/products/manix%C2% ... 7276987436

Military DLC - https://spyderco.com/products/military% ... 7275152428

Not sure what you're after,but what I consider their best models are all in stock in black.

[JARHEAD]

Although Spyderco offers a significant discount to military, I believe they purposely do not stock their most popular production models so that veterans cannot benefit from the discount. They would sell too many at a discount. That’s why there isn’t a single black knife on their website that’s in stock. Also, these are all readily available from other distributors, just not from the company who makes them. Thanks for nothing Spyderco.

That’s not a very accurate statement. I’m former military and it’s been a great 35 year ride. Sorry man maybe some more patience?

[TkoK83Spy]

Seems like he just wants to complain about the company, but keeps coming back. Why so much Spyderco bashing?? You haven't been around here long, but you couldn't be more wrong about this company or the people that represent them. @123Johnnyd

Just noticed this thread as well.

viewtopic.php?t=98441

[thuyenbuom]

Spyderco does not stock their most popular production models so that Veterans cannot benefit from the discount.

As a OpFocus customer I "strongly disagree" with this... From a logic perspective, such represents an "N of 1" statement which refers to an argument or conclusion based solely on a single instance or a single individual's experience. While it can be powerful anecdotal evidence, it is logically flawed if used to draw a general conclusion about a larger population (Vets who are Spyderco buyers).

[RustyIron]

they purposely do not stock their most popular production models so that veterans cannot benefit from the discount.

Feeling a bit entitled today?
If someone gives you a gift, be gracious.
If someone doesn't give you a gift, go online and rant about how you're being persecuted.

[JayHenMac]

I believe they purposely do not stock their most popular production models so that veterans cannot benefit from the discount.

I don't think that you are going to find a single vet, firefighter, police officer, or paramedic here who will agree with you. Spyderco as a company, and the people who run the company, have always held vets in the highest regards.

The common term for this kind of thinking is "Main Character Syndrome", but the more formal term is something like "Illusion of Personal Relevance". It's a type of cognitive bias where an individual over-attributes unrelated external events to their own actions, thoughts, or existence. My teenager made a similar accusation when He told me that petroleum producers raise the gas prices specifically to keep teenagers like him off of the roads.

Also, these are all readily available from other distributors, just not from the company who makes them.

I think you're just trying to find a reason to be upset. If you are looking for a knife and it is out of stock at Spyderco, but available from other sellers, why not purchase from there? There is no obligation to purchase from the manufacturer. There are plenty of sellers who offer veteran discounts.

[Evil D]

Maybe they're out of stock because all the veterans are buying them up? Nah, let's just assume the company is evil and hates veterans. That's way more plausible

[ratthew]

blacked out police - https://spyderco.com/products/police-mo ... lack-blade

blacked out manix xl - https://spyderco.com/products/manix%C2% ... 7276987436

Military DLC - https://spyderco.com/products/military% ... 7275152428

Not sure what you're after,but what I consider their best models are all in stock in black.

Above and beyond those, I counted 18 more "blacked out" models currently in stock and available, many of which I would consider among Spyderco's most popular models. Just because they don't have the exact model you're looking for in stock right when you want it doesn't mean they're trying to screw you.

Delica combo edge - https://spyderco.com/products/c11lt-del ... 9535434796

Endura combo edge - https://spyderco.com/products/c10lt-end ... 9534222380

Bodacious plain edge - https://spyderco.com/products/bodacious ... 7272399916

Native Chief lw plain edge - https://spyderco.com/products/native-ch ... 7273153580

Native Chief lw spyderedge - https://spyderco.com/products/native-ch ... 7273219116

Native Chief lw combo edge - https://spyderco.com/products/native-ch ... 7273219116

Military 1 plain edge - https://spyderco.com/products/military% ... 7272858668

Manix 2 LW plain edge - https://spyderco.com/products/c101lt-ma ... ightweight

Shaman plain edge - https://spyderco.com/products/c229g-sha ... 9534648364

Shaman spyderedge - https://spyderco.com/products/c229g-sha ... 9534615596

Para 3 lw plain edge - https://spyderco.com/products/c223lt-pa ... 9534353452

Para 3 lw spyderedge - https://spyderco.com/products/c223lt-pa ... 9534418988

Lil Native plain edge - https://spyderco.com/products/lil-native%C2%AE-g-10

Microjimbo - https://spyderco.com/products/microjimb ... 7274759212

Native 5 lw plain edge - https://spyderco.com/products/native%C2 ... 7273579564

Native 5 lw spyderedge - https://spyderco.com/products/native%C2 ... 7273612332

Native 5 lw combo edge - https://spyderco.com/products/native%C2 ... 7273546796

[Pokey]

This is off on a bit of a tangent, but all the models that are normally available under the OpFocus program are in stock at the SFO in Golden. Nothing is out of stock on purpose.

So for your theory to hold, 123Johnnyd, wouldn't the SFO place their inventory out of stock on purpose, too?

[Naperville]

Spyderco is in business to sell knives. As pointed out above, everything seems to be in stock.

If anything were out of stock it is because Spyderco knives are popular and people buy them.

There is a schedule for every product that Spyderco manufactures. Every knife that Spyderco manufactures is not in the process of being manufactured around the clock 24x7x365. No manufacturer works that way.

[Mushroom]

Guys this isn't a conspiracy... There's a guy in Philadelphia named Pepe Silvia that has been researching this for a long time. He has dedicated his life to it, to the point where he stopped receiving mail and the post office is sorting center is getting so backed up with mail for Pepe Silvia... they have boxes full of mail for Pepe Silvia.

[WilliamMunny]

It was explained to me once but everything Spyderco does it for a reason and just because they are Spyderco doesn’t mean they can do what they what. There are a lot of other factors that Spyderco must consider and impacts other parts of the industry.

Yes I am talking around it as this is not the place to go into details but know Spyderco supports law enforcement and military better than any other company I know.

[Roefisher]

This reminds me on the recent Guinness conspiracy! Just before Christmas last year, pubs and everywhere selling their drinks were told by Guinness that there would be a shortage on the predicted amount of sales in the lead up to Christmas with stouts, etc going though the roof and, especially, the alcohol free stouts so they'd have to take a limited amount each to be fair to everyone.

Compared to the shops usual purchases, and increases on that into the holiday season, it was reckoned to have cost Guinness tens of millions in lost sales but still, the conspiracy theorists up and down the county said it was faked to get everyone to buy their limited amount.... try to tell them the shops could have easily sold more than this amount and they still muttered away, no, no, no.

I guess they didn't listen or pay enough attention in maths class.

Mark

[ladybug93]

there are real things to be upset about. this isn't one of them.

[Halfneck]

Sounds like the kind of Vet that's 1st in line at Applebee's on Veteran's Day

Looks like a lot of other members found black bladed Spyderco knives in stock. Maybe try a post asking for some assistance first next time.

[Fastidiotus]

There's no way what distributors are paying on bulk wholesale orders is more profit per knife than what Spyderco makes by selling direct to customers even with the opsfocus discount. Selling direct to customers for any company is always the best profit. Spyderco would love to sell as many knives as possible direct to customers even with the OpsFocus discount.

Spyderco can't sell cheap directly to just anyone though because their vendors assume the risk on inventory. That's why wholesale prices exist. It's an insurance policy against losses should the inventory not sell. Spyderco being largely insulated from that burden allows them to take more risks themselves. Things like materials or manufacturing processes no other company would dare to use, or investing in a manufacturing plant expansion. The OpsFocus program is unique in that who it undercuts is actually Spyderco's vendors. Spyderco is biting the hand that not only feeds them but also props them up, to honor those that deserve a break. Spyderco isnt taking any major hit when you look at it, it's a simple as 123 but not for johnnyd.

[Enactive]

Blacked out attitude?

[zhyla]

Spyderco totally playing some shell game to avoid selling knives at a discount. There’s no way they could just reduce the discount if they wanted to.