The Big C

[JD Spydo]

Greetings Fellow Spyderheads: I've been low in attendance so far this year. But there have been many reasons for that. This entire year I've been taking care of two lifelong sick friends and I took care of two other sick friends for quite a while before these two guys became ill that I'm helping now. If I had to do it all over again I wouldn't change a thing. I've been learning first hand the things that are truly most important in life.

Well I recently developed some problems with my throat and esophagus. I got to where I couldn't hardly swallow any significant amounts of food. I went to a GI doctor ( gastrointerologist) and was told that I now have cancer of the esophagus. Needless to say I was devastated. I Don't smoke, rarely ever drink and I'm somewhat of a health food nut. I am truly perplexed as to how I contracted this insidious disease. I Don't drink any diet soft drinks and I'm very careful of what all I eat around the clock.

Well I've decided to fight this war to the bitter end. I know there are a few of you here that are very knowledgeable about a broad range of subjects. So if there is any viable input you all could share with me in my upcoming fight for my life I will be eternally grateful. The friends I've made here at Spyderville have been just great so please feel free to contact me with any valuable input you might like to share. Or feel free to share any information that might be helpful.

[Manixguy@1994]

Joe , my thoughts and prayers go out to you . Your friend Dan .

[jwbnyc]

Sorry to hear this. You will be in my prayers.

[The Mastiff]

Hello Joe. I'm no expert on the latest treatments and meds but I know a few general things . First, your mental make up and determination have a lot to do with pretty much all aspects of your experience and definitely your lifespan. If you are determined to last longer then barring some strange asteroid/volcano episode you will be here longer.

Your overall health and the way you eat and take care of yourself matters greatly in the way your body reacts and recovers over time. Cancer in the earlier and middle stages is a series of battles just like any other sickness like heart disease, COPD. etc. Your strength of will is everything.

It's often said that people who have plans they are determined to see through to completion don't die until they are done. The people who I witnessed and helped during their battles often didn't go until they seemed ready and that was when they were worn out, sick of the fight etc. I saw one aunt will herself to die over a few weeks time. She had been willing herself to keep on keeping on prior to that and that is exactly what happened. Every person and their road is different. Not every cancer diagnosis is a death sentence anyways. My ex wife was diagnosed in her twenties with a cancer that wasn't real treatable and she is still going strong and as much as a PITA now in her 60's as she ever was. :) She really seemed to just pay it no mind, do what she could then forgot the rest and that seemed to work for her. I doubt it would for me. We are too different.

Good luck and keep on living with your thoughts focused on the good things in your life. Prayer does help as well too.

Joe

[Ankerson]

I am so sorry to hear about it, I wish you the best of luck in the treatment.

Take each day as it comes one day at a time is all the advice I can give.

[TkoK83Spy]

Dang Joe, very sorry to hear this news. Especially over the past few years where you've dedicated so much time and energy to help those you care about, going through their own battles. Thinking about you buddy!

@ The Mastiff
That was a fantastic post.

[Doc Dan]

Man O man, I hate to read this. That is a tough row to hoe. How bad? I prayed for you.

[JD Spydo]

Hello Joe. I'm no expert on the latest treatments and meds but I know a few general things . First, your mental make up and determination have a lot to do with pretty much all aspects of your experience and definitely your lifespan. If you are determined to last longer then barring some strange asteroid/volcano episode you will be here longer.

Your overall health and the way you eat and take care of yourself matters greatly in the way your body reacts and recovers over time. Cancer in the earlier and middle stages is a series of battles just like any other sickness like heart disease, COPD. etc. Your strength of will is everything.

It's often said that people who have plans they are determined to see through to completion don't die until they are done. The people who I witnessed and helped during their battles often didn't go until they seemed ready and that was when they were worn out, sick of the fight etc. I saw one aunt will herself to die over a few weeks time. She had been willing herself to keep on keeping on prior to that and that is exactly what happened. Every person and their road is different. Not every cancer diagnosis is a death sentence anyways. My ex wife was diagnosed in her twenties with a cancer that wasn't real treatable and she is still going strong and as much as a PITA now in her 60's as she ever was. :) She really seemed to just pay it no mind, do what she could then forgot the rest and that seemed to work for her. I doubt it would for me. We are too different.

Good luck and keep on living with your thoughts focused on the good things in your life. Prayer does help as well too.

Joe

Well I can assure all of you here at Spyderville that I'm not a quitter. And if I have to go down I'm not going down easy. I just don't feel like it is a death sentence necessarily. I've lost over 30 pounds in two months. And I'm not that big of a guy. I'm 5 foot 9 inches tall and normally weigh around 190 or thereabout and I'm down now in the lower 160 range. I've got to get my appetite back somehow.

I've already decided that I'm not taking chemotherapy or radiation treatments. And I'm very hesitant to take hardly anything produced by the American Dope Industry. I've been reading some stuff by the late Dr. Lorraine Day who seemed to have the diet part of the fight figured out. My cousin's wife totally beat cancer by using Dr. Lorraine Day's diet plan>> and she was literally given up for dead before she started.

I've been told by very knowledgeable people that have been down this path that I must immediately quit eating anything with white sugar and to cease all intake of red meat until I get the cancer under control. But I'm not for sure if it's OK to eat fish or not? I'm all ears guys and gals. Maybe we can all learn something in this journey I'm about to begin.

[zhyla]

Hey JD, sorry to hear about this. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

I've already decided that I'm not taking chemotherapy or radiation treatments. And I'm very hesitant to take hardly anything produced by the American Dope Industry.

I'll just say this very bluntly: this is a stupid position to take and it will guarantee you don't beat this.

I've been told by very knowledgeable people that have been down this path that I must immediately quit eating anything with white sugar and to cease all intake of red meat until I get the cancer under control. But I'm not for sure if it's OK to eat fish or not? I'm all ears guys and gals. Maybe we can all learn something in this journey I'm about to begin.

Cutting out sugar and red meat, or really any reasonable modification to your diet is totally fine. But despite some positive anecdotes and the innate human desire to want to believe that the food you eat has magical powers, there is no real data to support the idea that a diet change will cure your cancer.

If you're out of options then of course you should try whatever hare brained idea anyone offers you. But eating your vegetables is not going to cure you. And my personal unscientific medical advice is you should eat whatever high calorie foods you feel like eating the most of because you're going to need some fat reserves to beat this.

[James Y]

Greetings, Joe.

I am very sorry to hear this. Please PM me if you need someone to talk to.

Jim

[kwakster]

Allopathic medicine can and will sometimes save people from various cancer types, but their value lies more in the field of surgery than that of medication that actually cures anything.
Most cancer nedication has serious side effects that can actually damage and even kill you all on it's own, and so can radiation.
If radiation is unavoidable at least use DMSO (Dimethyl-Sulfoxide) to help protect the healthy cells from the radiation.
Here DMSO is also used to inject into solid tumors together with the cytostatics of choice, as it promotes their penetration & effectiveness.
It also has a multitude of other uses, and should be in everyone's home.

Personally i would start with the best detox i'm aware of: chlorine dioxide.
I buy & use the ready-made solution, but you can also make it yourself using 2 compounds available on the internet.
Chlorine-dioxide will help rid your body of parasites (the likely cause of many cancer types), toxins, heavy metals, etc.
It is an oxidizer, so best to not use with any anti-oxidants (they cancel each other out)

The German MD Andreas Kalcker explains what chlorine dioxide is and what it can do:

https://rumble.com/v48saso-what-is-cds-andreas-kalcker-explains.html

Besides chlorine dioxide you may also want to read about amygdalin/laetrile, DMSO, Mebendazole, Fenbendazole, and last but not least: organic germanium.

If you have any questions regarding the use and dosages of all of the above (except Fenbendazole, which so far i haven't used) contact me at any time via PM or in this thread, what you think is best.

[The Mastiff]

The red meat thing is because most of it in the stores has been treated with steroids and growth hormones. The thought is that using steroids and growth hormones is like throwing a can of gasoline on an open fire as they increase growth rate of cancers. It is true to an extent but eating some red meat a couple times a week won't hurt you. If you are a drug taking muscle bound freak injecting the stuff routinely you are shortening your life even if you don't have cancer.

White sugar is just not real healthy for anyone. IMO a little bit here and there won't bother you cancer or not. The point is just to eat as healthy as you are able and get lots of antioxidants in your diet.

As far as chemo and radiation? It depends on several factors. For some people not taking it is foolish. For others it is a waste of time and resources . That is between the person deciding and their doctors. It's a decision to be made from an informed position.

[JBoone]

Sorry to hear.
I just finished radiation for prostate. Was not too bad all in all but did not need chemo. Prostate is very treatable so seemed like a no brainer.

Please do your research on outcomes before refusing treatment.

[Paul Ardbeg]

Very sorry to hear this. My wife, in her late 30's got cancer last year and is recovering. I can only say, follow your oncologist and the program. Ask to record the conversations if allowed, not from a liability perspective, but there are so many questions you will ask and it's hard to remember everything (My dad did this). Don't feel guilty when family and friends offer support, you are not alone and you should be comfortable and cared for. All the best.

[Ankerson]

Well I have to agree with the others here.

Refusing chemo and radiation will all but guarantee a negative outcome and or speed up the negative outcome.

I would highly recommend consulting your oncologist or two and see what they say percentage wise depending on how treatable your cancer is.

Two of my family members died from cancer, BOTH refused treatment. With one there was no possible positive outcome with stage 4 cancer.

The other had a slight chance with stage 3.

Both passed in a very short time after.

Another had prostate cancer and took chemo and radiation at over age 90 and survived another 8 years before passing at 98 from natural causes.

[Manixguy@1994]

Well I have to agree with the others here.

Refusing chemo and radiation will all but guarantee a negative outcome and or speed up the negative outcome.

I would highly recommend consulting your oncologist or two and see what they say percentage wise depending on how treatable your cancer is.

Two of my family members died from cancer, BOTH refused treatment. With one there was no possible positive outcome with stage 4 cancer.

The other had a slight chance with stage 3.

Both passed in a very short time after.

Another had prostate cancer and took chemo and radiation at over age 90 and survived another 8 years before passing at 98 from natural causes.

Well said ! MG2

[Naperville]

I do not know what your funds are like. I would sell everything and get to a Mayo Clinic, you may not have to even leave the state of Missouri. Related clinics may have access to all of the best equipment.

Say YES to chemo, radiation, and enhanced DNA sequencing of the cancer and treatments that use DNA of the cancer to create a personalized solution to degrade and destroy the cancer wherever it may be in your body.

[shunsui]

A friend of mine mentioned to me that hot drinks like coffee, tea, and soups etc are bad for the esophagus. I dialed back on how hot I take my coffee now. If it is almost too hot to drink, it's probably bad for the esophagus.

I also recently heard about extracts of mushrooms such as Turkey Tail mushrooms and Lion's Mane mushrooms. I asked Google's A.I. who was a quality manufacturer and it suggested these guys:
Real Mushrooms.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D3G3ZFX/

You might want to do some research, some people make remarkable claims.

[cabfrank]

Very sorry JD. Hang in there, have faith, stay positive and be stronger and tougher than that f****** C. We're all pulling for you.

[aicolainen]

Very sorry to read this news, JD.

I’m as skeptical as anyone to big pharma and the perverse profit incentives of our medical system, but sadly it’s often times the most realistic path to a good outcome. So please keep that in mind.
There’s anecdotal evidence suggesting quite a few promising alternative treatments of some cancers, but betting one’s life on anecdotes isn’t such an attractive option either. And it can be hard to find a serious MD willing to help you through an alternative treatment regime.

While not necessarily enough to turn your situation around, a healthy lifestyle will definitely not hurt you. So keep up eating healthy food and fight this thing with all the willpower you can muster. I’m a strong believer in food served in or close to its natural form, where the calories are still wrapped in lots of fibers. Cancers thrive on easily available energy sources.
I wouldn’t rule out red meat myself, but be wary of how it’s produced. If you know any hunters you could try to source meat from wild animals.

Good luck my friend