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Native Chief Cruwear Micarta

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So... this is going to be linerless, right? :thinking
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Re: Native Chief Cruwear Micarta

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eventhorizon wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 6:57 am
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So... this is going to be linerless, right? :thinking
I wish I could have an answer since it is a knife I would like to purchase in the future . My guess it will be be linerless . I hope someone will clarify. MG2
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It's not impossible to make a linerless Micarta knife, it used to be standard procedure 20 years ago, I guess the main question might be is it strong enough to hold the clip screw helicoils.

This is linerless Micarta..

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I'd be actually suprised if they introduced liners for the Crucarta Chief... maybe they found a way to stabilize the micarta they are using on this?

Pretty sure Eric stated in an interview micarta scales would be too flexible to use without liners.
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Re: Native Chief Cruwear Micarta

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Evil D wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:45 pm
It's not impossible to make a linerless Micarta knife, it used to be standard procedure 20 years ago, I guess the main question might be is it strong enough to hold the clip screw helicoils.

This is linerless Micarta..

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Great photo. Such a beautiful knife, a large edc folder hasn’t been topped since this knife
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Re: Native Chief Cruwear Micarta

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Tristan_david2001 wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:32 pm
Evil D wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:45 pm
It's not impossible to make a linerless Micarta knife, it used to be standard procedure 20 years ago, I guess the main question might be is it strong enough to hold the clip screw helicoils.

This is linerless Micarta..

Image
Great photo. Such a beautiful knife, a large edc folder hasn’t been topped since this knife
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Re: Native Chief Cruwear Micarta

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vivi wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:47 pm
Tristan_david2001 wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:32 pm
Evil D wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:45 pm
It's not impossible to make a linerless Micarta knife, it used to be standard procedure 20 years ago, I guess the main question might be is it strong enough to hold the clip screw helicoils.

This is linerless Micarta..

Image
Great photo. Such a beautiful knife, a large edc folder hasn’t been topped since this knife
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Close perhaps but no cigar
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Re: Native Chief Cruwear Micarta

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vivi wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:47 pm
Tristan_david2001 wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:32 pm
Evil D wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:45 pm
It's not impossible to make a linerless Micarta knife, it used to be standard procedure 20 years ago, I guess the main question might be is it strong enough to hold the clip screw helicoils.

This is linerless Micarta..

Image
Great photo. Such a beautiful knife, a large edc folder hasn’t been topped since this knife
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Gotta be honest if it has the same slight leaf shaped curved spine like the Calypso I'd like it more.
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Re: Native Chief Cruwear Micarta

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Evil D wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:58 pm
vivi wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:47 pm
Tristan_david2001 wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:32 pm
Evil D wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:45 pm
It's not impossible to make a linerless Micarta knife, it used to be standard procedure 20 years ago, I guess the main question might be is it strong enough to hold the clip screw helicoils.

This is linerless Micarta..

Image
Great photo. Such a beautiful knife, a large edc folder hasn’t been topped since this knife
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Gotta be honest if it has the same slight leaf shaped curved spine like the Calypso I'd like it more.
curved spines look nice but straight spines are better IMO. They work better as scrapers and result in thinner tips.
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Re: Native Chief Cruwear Micarta

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Tristan_david2001 wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:58 pm
vivi wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:47 pm
Tristan_david2001 wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:32 pm
Evil D wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:45 pm
It's not impossible to make a linerless Micarta knife, it used to be standard procedure 20 years ago, I guess the main question might be is it strong enough to hold the clip screw helicoils.

This is linerless Micarta..

Image
Great photo. Such a beautiful knife, a large edc folder hasn’t been topped since this knife
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Close perhaps but no cigar
I've tried the Calypso, Chief, Police and Millie.

To me the Chief does everything better than the Calypso too.
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Re: Native Chief Cruwear Micarta

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vivi wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:06 pm
Tristan_david2001 wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:58 pm
vivi wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:47 pm
Tristan_david2001 wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:32 pm

Great photo. Such a beautiful knife, a large edc folder hasn’t been topped since this knife
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Close perhaps but no cigar
I've tried the Calypso, Chief, Police and Millie.

To me the Chief does everything better than the Calypso too.
That’s great for you man
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Tristan_david2001 wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:08 pm
vivi wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:06 pm
Tristan_david2001 wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:58 pm
vivi wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:47 pm


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Close perhaps but no cigar
I've tried the Calypso, Chief, Police and Millie.

To me the Chief does everything better than the Calypso too.
That’s great for you man
What do you think the Calypso does functionally better than the Chief?
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Re: Native Chief Cruwear Micarta

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vivi wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:14 pm
Tristan_david2001 wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:08 pm
vivi wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:06 pm
Tristan_david2001 wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:58 pm

Close perhaps but no cigar
I've tried the Calypso, Chief, Police and Millie.

To me the Chief does everything better than the Calypso too.
That’s great for you man
What do you think the Calypso does functionally better than the Chief?
Good question. Functionally I think they both would perform pretty similarly with a fair amount of subtle differences. I could probably make do with a chief for my edc just as good as my calypso, but it’s the subtle differences I enjoy more. If it was all about function, we all wouldn’t be owning as many knives as we do, it’s about passion for the art form as well. I think the backlock rotation is more a bit more dialed in, more natural arc to swiftly open, I like how the lock bar cut out is closer to the top of the handle “cockpit area”, fully, exposed thumb hole, I like having a thumb ramp to brace my thumb back in choked up grip, ergonomics isn’t so much about comfort as it is about control over the blade/edge, I know I hear you often say the thumb ramps cramp your thumb often, for me it’s kind of how the grip is supposed to work to get a locked in choked up grip for precise cutting, just my opinion. I prefer the ergonomics and blade geometry on the calys more all around, It also functions at looking and being a lot cooler haha but seriously it’s all mostly just personal preference
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Re: Native Chief Cruwear Micarta

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Also though I really don’t have much in hand experience with the p4 or the chief, both of their choils never looked quite right to me, they both look a little short, and the chiefs choil looks a little too deep for my preference, I like how the calypsos finger choil is quite spacious and neutrally curved
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Can confirm it's linerless. I handled it at shot show and loved it. No flex in the handle. I had this in my mind and didn't notice any additional handle flex.

I was going to get one before I found a Jade/Dlc/M4 version for a smoking good deal.
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Re: Native Chief Cruwear Micarta

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Spyderwebs wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:31 pm
Can confirm it's linerless. I handled it at shot show and loved it. No flex in the handle. I had this in my mind and didn't notice any additional handle flex.

I was going to get one before I found a Jade/Dlc/M4 version for a smoking good deal.
Interesting, thanks for confirming. I know Sal has been pretty adamant about not doing linerless micarta scales on larger folders, so I wonder what changed his mind?
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vivi wrote:
Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:56 am
Spyderwebs wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:31 pm
Can confirm it's linerless. I handled it at shot show and loved it. No flex in the handle. I had this in my mind and didn't notice any additional handle flex.

I was going to get one before I found a Jade/Dlc/M4 version for a smoking good deal.
Interesting, thanks for confirming. I know Sal has been pretty adamant about not doing linerless micarta scales on larger folders, so I wonder what changed his mind?

The G10 scales on my REX45 Chief flex a little if I squeeze tightly, barely noticeable but they do... that surely would be amplified when using "normal" micarta, so my guess would be they somehow have stabilized the micarta for the Chief. At least I hope they have.
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vivi wrote:
Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:56 am
Spyderwebs wrote:
Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:31 pm
Can confirm it's linerless. I handled it at shot show and loved it. No flex in the handle. I had this in my mind and didn't notice any additional handle flex.

I was going to get one before I found a Jade/Dlc/M4 version for a smoking good deal.
Interesting, thanks for confirming. I know Sal has been pretty adamant about not doing linerless micarta scales on larger folders, so I wonder what changed his mind?
Eric. Sal told me years ago that they learned a lot making those linerless Micarta knives, primarily not to. Changes in temperature, altitude and humidity can cause Micarta to warp. Sal got to deal with that fallout. But Eric is running the show now, so it is his problem.
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Re: Native Chief Cruwear Micarta

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Well good luck to Eric, hope this run works out well. Debating between the Manix XL, Chief or Millie for my first crucarta knife.
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vivi wrote:
Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:17 am
Well good luck to Eric, hope this run works out well. Debating between the Manix XL, Chief or Millie for my first crucarta knife.

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