Fakes and EBay…
Fakes and EBay…
I’ve noticed a few blatant fakes on eBay and have reported them but they never get removed by eBay. Weird they have a method to report counterfeit knives but do nothing about it. One guy posts only fakes. Looks like he just buys ZT and Spyderco from OK and doubles/triples his money and people who don’t know any better give him good reviews for it. It’s nuts. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Fakes and EBay…
Yes, it's so common now people openly talk about these things on some Reddit subs. I remember a few people floating the idea of buying the clones to try before you buy, but then the websites offer you discount on bulk deals, so it's obvious what's really going on.
Some of them are reallllly close to the real thing, too. I mean, frankly, a lot of the times I hear people go, "Oh, that's so obvious, that would never get by me!" but it's not about if they can get it by the person, but the companies like eBay or Paypal. They're going to take one look at the knives, and any kind of talk of, "Oh, the type face for brand name isn't oriented quite to the same angle," and just think it's down to manufacturing changes, and then especially when you have a brand like Spyderco that actually is known to make "constant quality improvements" that helps with plausible deniability. "Oh, the clip looks different than they remember because Spyderco improved their process," is all a seller a have to say to satisfy whatever superficial investigation those services will do about it.
Honestly, I don't know what the solution is, but I think it could come from a manufacturing level. I mean, what's wrong with serial numbers? Record each knife your company produces, make a registry of which vendors have bought them, and so then when some fake pops up on eBay and a buyer wants to make a claim, they can contact Spyderco and they can go, "Yep, that's a fake."
Some of them are reallllly close to the real thing, too. I mean, frankly, a lot of the times I hear people go, "Oh, that's so obvious, that would never get by me!" but it's not about if they can get it by the person, but the companies like eBay or Paypal. They're going to take one look at the knives, and any kind of talk of, "Oh, the type face for brand name isn't oriented quite to the same angle," and just think it's down to manufacturing changes, and then especially when you have a brand like Spyderco that actually is known to make "constant quality improvements" that helps with plausible deniability. "Oh, the clip looks different than they remember because Spyderco improved their process," is all a seller a have to say to satisfy whatever superficial investigation those services will do about it.
Honestly, I don't know what the solution is, but I think it could come from a manufacturing level. I mean, what's wrong with serial numbers? Record each knife your company produces, make a registry of which vendors have bought them, and so then when some fake pops up on eBay and a buyer wants to make a claim, they can contact Spyderco and they can go, "Yep, that's a fake."