The TEMPERANCE 1 in the SALT SERIES???

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The TEMPERANCE 1 in the SALT SERIES???

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Needless to say that the newest Cruwear Sprint version of the TEMPERANCE 1 model is literally a screaming success!! I just got the serrated version delivered to me this past week and I'm awestruck to put it mildly. There is a real reason that the TEMP1 has been my favorite Spyderco fixed blade ever since it's birth in 2003-2004. It's simply a near perfect design.

The blade design and superlative handle contours truly make it a near perfect fixed blade knife for a plethora of outdoor and culinary cutting jobs. But I still feel we are stopping short of what should be a high priority concerning this super design. I truly believe that there should also be a SALT SERIES version of the TEMP 1 as well. And do offer it up in SE & PE both please.

I'm sure that I'm not alone with that desire to see the TEMP 1 offered up with a corrosion resistant blade steel in the Salt Series. It would be a hunters and fisherman's dream to be sure. I'm hoping that Surfingringo and others who use those types of knives frequently will chime in. But what say all of you who like the newest version of the TEMP 1 ?????
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I would carry one in Magnacut. It would be the perfect hiking/fishing knife for me.
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That is sort of what the Jumpmaster2 is but with a different handle and a higher price.

I’d be curious at what the price point would be on a magnacut Temp1. I wasn’t buying all the Magnacut hype but I put my Mule to some good use breaking down a couple bucks recently and I’m quite impressed.

I guess we will see how the Cruwear sell and if it’s good enough hopefully another version could be on the horizon.
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I'd be much more interested if it were a Salt. I'd prefer MagnaCut, but LC or H2 would be fine.
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I would love a salt Temp 1. I remember the conversations on the forum about the possibility of a Temp 1 sprint run a few years ago and I was hoping it would be a salt when it happened. I would be really stoked to see a salt run!
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Waiting on my SE to arrive (was supposed to arrive today, but now delayed until Monday). Want to get it in hand and use it before saying much about the design.

I'm not sure I'll need a salty version. Tough Cruwear with slightly less corrosion resistance is totally fine for my usage. Especially with the $142 (US) price point.

But I am all for more variants! Folks will buy them!
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This maker has not worked with H2 or Magnacut. A Salt version in LC2 would certainly not be any less expensive than the current Sprint. Let's see how this Sprint goes.

'This project with the Temp 1 began a long time ago. We have a number of other models already in queue with this maker. It is much easier to make a fixed blade that a high quality folder. Trying to "squeeze" in a Salt version would delay the other projects. Caly 2.5, Caly 3, Caly 3.5, Caly 4 plus a few others that have been already waiting a long time. They are a small group of very skilled men and women.

I recognize that there are many variations of existing models being asked for, and there are 15 - 20 new models that are "in-the-works" at various levels. We love you for your interest but we are dealing with capacity issues in almost all of our resources. Our new factory in Golden is coming on line, machines are being put into place, and out Golden Knife-Makers are working very hard to increase production in Golden, which they have been doing every month. Keeping up with demand for our current models and bringing out new models always begs the question; What do we want to drop off, in order to make room for a new model. That's why we created "Sprints'". Our latest "Reveal" has a mix of both variations of existing models and some new.

We thank you for your interest and appreciate your support.

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sal wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:26 pm
This maker has not worked with H2 or Magnacut. A Salt version in LC2 would certainly not be any less expensive than the current Sprint. Let's see how this Sprint goes.

'This project with the Temp 1 began a long time ago. We have a number of other models already in queue with this maker. It is much easier to make a fixed blade that a high quality folder. Trying to "squeeze" in a Salt version would delay the other projects. Caly 2.5, Caly 3, Caly 3.5, Caly 4 plus a few others that have been already waiting a long time. They are a small group of very skilled men and women.

I recognize that there are many variations of existing models being asked for, and there are 15 - 20 new models that are "in-the-works" at various levels. We love you for your interest but we are dealing with capacity issues in almost all of our resources. Our new factory in Golden is coming on line, machines are being put into place, and out Golden Knife-Makers are working very hard to increase production in Golden, which they have been doing every month. Keeping up with demand for our current models and bringing out new models always begs the question; What do we want to drop off, in order to make room for a new model. That's why we created "Sprints'". Our latest "Reveal" has a mix of both variations of existing models and some new.

We thank you for your interest and appreciate your support.

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sal wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:26 pm
This maker has not worked with H2 or Magnacut. A Salt version in LC2 would certainly not be any less expensive than the current Sprint. Let's see how this Sprint goes.

'This project with the Temp 1 began a long time ago. We have a number of other models already in queue with this maker. It is much easier to make a fixed blade that a high quality folder. Trying to "squeeze" in a Salt version would delay the other projects. Caly 2.5, Caly 3, Caly 3.5, Caly 4 plus a few others that have been already waiting a long time. They are a small group of very skilled men and women.

I recognize that there are many variations of existing models being asked for, and there are 15 - 20 new models that are "in-the-works" at various levels. We love you for your interest but we are dealing with capacity issues in almost all of our resources. Our new factory in Golden is coming on line, machines are being put into place, and out Golden Knife-Makers are working very hard to increase production in Golden, which they have been doing every month. Keeping up with demand for our current models and bringing out new models always begs the question; What do we want to drop off, in order to make room for a new model. That's why we created "Sprints'". Our latest "Reveal" has a mix of both variations of existing models and some new.

We thank you for your interest and appreciate your support.

sal
And thank YOU for bringing back the OG Temperance. I was one of the people that had hassled from time to time to bring it back with newer high-alloy steels (as well as the Street Bowie - hint, hint!). I'm very happy to see the Cruwear version, and have bought both the PE and SE, so I now have 3 in total, including the original infidel (un-holey) version.

If it were made in Magnacut in future, I'd buy that as well. And I'd also buy a Street Bowie in Cruwear or Magnacut - hint, HINT!
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Brummie wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:08 pm
And thank YOU for bringing back the OG Temperance. I was one of the people that had hassled from time to time to bring it back with newer high-alloy steels (as well as the Street Bowie - hint, hint!). I'm very happy to see the Cruwear version, and have bought both the PE and SE, so I now have 3 in total, including the original infidel (un-holey) version.

If it were made in Magnacut in future, I'd buy that as well. And I'd also buy a Street Bowie in Cruwear or Magnacut - hint, HINT!
Speaking about...
A Street Beat in uncoated magnacut is something I hope to see one day.
I've become much more relaxed about steel choices for my folding knives, some needs to be salts, but otherwise most modern steels are up to the tasks I put them through.
Less so with fixed blades though. I find the Street Beat to be a very interesting design, but the coated VG-10 is no doubt holding me back.
The Street Bowie is maybe even more in need of a tougher steel, it's just not very often I need a fixed blade of that size. I'd definitively consider it in a upgraded steel.

With all this derailing already going on, I'd like to throw in the Enuff 2 in this category as well. I was surprised to see k390 as the first alternative steel to be offered. It's a design that has Salt written all over it.
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I was hoping the Jumpmaster 2 could be my go-to Salt fixie for working around the yard. After trying it out though, I found that the slim handle was not comfortable during prolonged use.

Perhaps the more hand-filling handle of the Temperance would work better.

I have one in PE Cruwear arriving in about two weeks. If it feels like an improvement over the Jumpmaster, then count me in for a Salt variant in the future.
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mikey177 wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2024 7:37 pm
I was hoping the Jumpmaster 2 could be my go-to Salt fixie for working around the yard. After trying it out though, I found that the slim handle was not comfortable during prolonged use.

Perhaps the more hand-filling handle of the Temperance would work better.

I have one in PE Cruwear arriving in about two weeks. If it feels like an improvement over the Jumpmaster, then count me in for a Salt variant in the future.
Of all the friends that I've gotten to check out any of my TEMP 1 models I've only had one friend say that the handle on that model didn't fit his hand properly. And this guy has a hand so huge that it might be mistaken for a small baseball glove. But most of the guys with average to slightly above average hands all seem to love the handle on the TEMP 1.

To me that handle is one of the nicer selling points on this great fixed blade model. The design of the blade is also near perfect for about any type of cutting chores that I could ever encounter. A Salt Series version of this Spyderco Classic from the GOLDEN ERA would provide me with all the fixed blades I would ever need from here on out.
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Too much of the same. We need to let Spyderco move forward.
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Hey JD,

FYI, I hand carved the Temp 1 out of wood while travelling to a show. When we make up the display for the store, we'll show the carving and the development of the model.

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I have a couple of Temp ones. I also agree, one of the the better fixed blades. I keep my Temps mint. Just carry them. An excellent choice for MBC. I also have been big on the salt series fixed blades over the years. I used the crap out of my Jump Master. A real work horse. A salt Temp would be interesting. A 52100 Temp would be interesting. That stuff gets sharp. I know the exact opposite. But what a knife that would be. Make both...lol
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sal wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:39 am
Hey JD,

FYI, I hand carved the Temp 1 out of wood while travelling to a show. When we make up the display for the store, we'll show the carving and the development of the model.

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mikey177 wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2024 7:37 pm
I was hoping the Jumpmaster 2 could be my go-to Salt fixie for working around the yard. After trying it out though, I found that the slim handle was not comfortable during prolonged use.

Perhaps the more hand-filling handle of the Temperance would work better.

I have one in PE Cruwear arriving in about two weeks. If it feels like an improvement over the Jumpmaster, then count me in for a Salt variant in the future.
I use my Jumpmaster and SE Temp 1 at work almost interchangeably. The Temp handle is (to me at least) a bit more comfortable for hours of hacking, but the JM sits more flush to my body when pushing through thickets of ginger and pagoda flower plants and tends to remain attached to my body a bit better - it is not unheard of for my knives (sheath and all) to get pulled off my belt when things get rough. It is the main reason I don’t use pocket clips on my work folders and just zip them into a thigh pocket instead.

I have on a couple of occasions toyed with making some more hand filling scales to fit the JM2, but if that’s what I want I just pick up the Temp these days. It is a privilege I do not take for granted to have both.
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Mushroom wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:38 am
Too much of the same. We need to let Spyderco move forward.
I get what you're saying and fully understand where you are coming from. But the reason I'm so impressed with the original TEMP 1 model is because I feel that particular design was very close to total perfection from day one.

I owned and used at least 6 other Spyderco fixed blades throughout the years and none of them ever gave me the comfort and confidence that the TEMP 1 provides.

The size of the TEMP 1 I do believe would be near perfect for the Salt Series. I think it could have done very well if it had been introduced to the Salt Series from the get-go. Going to the Cruwear blade on the Sprint Run even makes it closer to perfection IMO.
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After getting the Temperance SE I’m far more interested in another temperance in a salt series knife than any folder. I use the knife a lot just working on my yard. It’s also going to be my dedicated hiking knife.
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VandymanG wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 11:02 pm
After getting the Temperance SE I’m far more interested in another temperance in a salt series knife than one folder. I use the knife a lot just working on my yard. It’s also going to be my dedicated hiking knife.
Once a guy uses a TEMPERANCE 1 model you soon see how great of a working design that it is. The handle and blade both are superb. It's one of Spyderco's early fixed blade models that they got virtually perfect right out of the gate IMO.

And the TEMP 1 is one model that I value the SE version just as much as I do the PE version. It's been my ultimate favorite fixed blade for a reason. And when a person uses it they will soon find out why. I sure hope that in due time that a Salt Series version will be possible.
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