A full size Native slipjoint?

[Roefisher]

Hello,

I'm sorry if this has been answered but "Native" in the search feature brings up no results as it's too common a word to use.

So I thought I'd ask to hear the latest news, if any.

Today, I got my hands on the Lil' Native Slipit. For me, it's a beautifully designed and made little 'tank' of a knife and I love the fact that it's a completely different model to the UKPK. And then, of course, it got me thinking immediately about how good a full sized Native slippie would be.

Are there plans for the full sized Native slipit? I really hope there is and honestly feel, based on it's little brother, that it could be a real game changer.

Cheers,

Mark

[ChrisinHove]

As you may already know, a full size Native slipjoint was prototyped in the days of British Blades Forum, but hasn’t materialised in production……..yet.

I live in Hope (as well as Hove).

[Roefisher]

Hi Chris,

Yes, I remember the chat about it but that must be, what, ten or maybe more years ago? If it's the same knife I think Danzo got an orange one, either as a gift or a prototype to try out? That must be one of the rarest Spyderco knives, if he's still around and still owns it.

I know you like the UKPK, so what would you think about a full sized Native slipit?

Mark

[ChrisinHove]

I think a full size Native slipjoint would be excellent!

I’ve toyed with the idea of replacing the lockbar & backspace with a spring, or asking someone to do it, as a good enough option. I asked here why Spyderco didn’t do exactly that, and Sal commented that simply, “good enough” isn’t good enough.

[Roefisher]

I suppose a slipjoint modification would be an option but the best answer is a proper new knife!

Maybe there were plans around the time Danzo had his one-off and there just wasn't the same interest back then? I really do think, especially after seeing the Lil' Native first hand, that this is a knife that should happen.

Mark

[Doc Dan]

I think a Native slipit would be a welcome edition to the lineup and the design would finally make sense to me.

[Roefisher]

I think a Native slipit would be a welcome edition to the lineup and the design would finally make sense to me.

Even in the smaller knife, the Lil' Native, it's a completely different knife to the UKPK. The blade and the scales are both already much thicker and the overall feel is one of heavy duty, but still practical and cleverly designed. I can only imagine this appeal being stretched out to a full sized Native and it being a real work-horse of a slipjoint.

There are so many locking knives in all shapes and sizes so it would be really cool to see a similar development in non-lockers to help give us an increased variety and choice.

Mark

[sal]

Just Talkin' Story

There was some discussion about making a regular size Native as a Slippie back when we were designing the UKPK with the group at British Blades forum. At the time, There was some concern about the appearance of the Native with its wide thick blade and full grip. We finally opted for what became the UKPK, which has been surprisingly well received for a "modern" slip-joint, though it took 20 years. There is a lesson there.

As I remember, we made a Native Slippie and I believe I sent it to Danzo as I owed him a favor. Since we're on the subject, I'd like to see response on the thread. I'll make a Native Slippie prototype. I have received a few "requests" from the Brits on the "Edge Matters" Forum. (A great group FYI), Which I will be forwarding to management planning. I will include the regular size Native Slippie as part of the list. We're making a selling quite a few Slippies at this time. So a time for a Native variation might be now?

Nothing until next summer when the expansion will be finished. But we're planning now for new models to be introduced.

sal

[Fastidiotus]

Even though I live somewhere with no restrictions and do enjoy carrying larger harder use knives on days I'll know I need them, I've also come to really appreciate the simplicity of Spyderco's slipjoints for day to day carry. With the safety of a choil like the ukpk, urban, and squeak there's never the feeling your fingers are in any danger. They're simple and safe knives that hardly weigh in your pocket. You hand them to anyone and they'd be able to open, use, and close without you worrying about them.

With the choil on the Native 5 it would appear to be a perfect knife for a stout slipjoint. Even gripping the handle without using the choil, the choil is large enough to be the part of the blade that hits my index finger.

[ChrisinHove]

That is fantastic!

Thanks, Sal!

[Roefisher]

That's absolutely wonderful news, Sal. Thank you for all the info and comments here and the actions you're taking in this one - it's very much appreciated!

I don't want to hog the comments myself, so I hope other people will show their interest in the full-sized Native slipjoint, both here and over on the EdgeMatters forum.

As soon as I had the Lil' Native in my hand, I knew the full-sized Native slippie would be a winner too.

Mark

[Flash]

That’s brilliant news Sal.

Since I’ve been using my Native 5 I’ve always thought the design would lend itself perfectly to a 3” slip joint. Certainly something I would be highly interested in.

Id take any steel but would personally prefer G10 over the FRN you find on most Spyderco Slippies.

[Manixguy@1994]

This is fantastic! I will be waiting for this new variation. The Native would be a perfect platform as a slip joint for me , not too big not too small . MG2

[Doc Dan]

I'll be honest and say that for my needs I would likely prefer the UKPK leaf blade. I don't find the Native comfortable. However, having a reason to have to hold the choil makes more sense to me for the Native if it were a slipit. It doesn't make sense to me as is. The knife handle is so short my hand fills the handle, including the choil as it is. I think it is a fine knife and I love the looks of it, but it isn't a locking knife I enjoy.

[Tristan_david2001]

The caly/ukpk design is superior and perfectly fits the bill for a 3” edc folder….

[James Y]

I'll be honest and say that for my needs I would likely prefer the UKPK leaf blade. I don't find the Native comfortable. However, having a reason to have to hold the choil makes more sense to me for the Native if it were a slipit. It doesn't make sense to me as is. The knife handle is so short my hand fills the handle, including the choil as it is. I think it is a fine knife and I love the looks of it, but it isn't a locking knife I enjoy.

This is pretty much how I feel. I do like my G10 Native 5, but I find it to be among my least comfortable knives in hand during use.

OTOH, I love how my leaf-bladed UKPK Salt feels in hand. It feels natural and comfortable. And, of course, there is more of a practical reason to have to use the choil.

Jim

[TimButterfield]

As another data point, my Native 5 Salt Magnacut PE is on my 'only 5' list. It seems to fit my hand well, both with and without using the choil. I can see the appeal of this as a slipit, but I do like the lockback on it also.

[Bolster]

I think a poll is probably the way to ask this question.

Data point: I would have no interest in a Native slip.

[Flash]

Just Talkin' Story

There was some discussion about making a regular size Native as a Slippie back when we were designing the UKPK with the group at British Blades forum. At the time, There was some concern about the appearance of the Native with its wide thick blade and full grip. We finally opted for what became the UKPK, which has been surprisingly well received for a "modern" slip-joint, though it took 20 years. There is a lesson there.

As I remember, we made a Native Slippie and I believe I sent it to Danzo as I owed him a favor. Since we're on the subject, I'd like to see response on the thread. I'll make a Native Slippie prototype. I have received a few "requests" from the Brits on the "Edge Matters" Forum. (A great group FYI), Which I will be forwarding to management planning. I will include the regular size Native Slippie as part of the list. We're making a selling quite a few Slippies at this time. So a time for a Native variation might be now?

Nothing until next summer when the expansion will be finished. But we're planning now for new models to be introduced.

sal

Hi Sal,

As much as I would like a Native slip joint, I feel like a Chaparral slip joint would be even better.
It’s a design that would potentially fill the size gap between The Urban and The UKPK - whilst at the same time bettering both as an EDC option in my humble opinion, especially in countries with draconian knife laws like the U.K.

I’ve heard rumours and rumblings of one possibly being in development but nothing concrete.

Could you confirm or deny anything about the reality of this knife?

Flash

[Flash]

I think a poll is probably the way to ask this question.

Data point: I would have no interest in a Native slip.

No need for a poll. If you don’t want one then you don’t buy it.