Just a general question...
What training have you had?
How was it useful for you?
TQ
What martial arts have you done?
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travis quaas
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dialex
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Hello Travis. I started with judo in highschool. Mostly because I was pretty strong (had a couple of years of bodybuilding, it was the Arnie mania <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>) but I was also clumsy as a bear... or worse. I won a few matches, but mostly due to my strength rather than training. But the most notable result was that I didn't slip on ice in winter anymore <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
After the army I restarted with the judo. It was the only martial arts allowed in Romania those days. This time, I put the accent on speed and technique and it was really instructive and funny.
Unfortunately, no more time for dojo now <img src="sad.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> and I just have to stick to thai-chi-quan, which I discovered a few years ago. I know it is not quite martial art, but it's a thing that goes well with my peaceful, non-combative nature <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
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After the army I restarted with the judo. It was the only martial arts allowed in Romania those days. This time, I put the accent on speed and technique and it was really instructive and funny.
Unfortunately, no more time for dojo now <img src="sad.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> and I just have to stick to thai-chi-quan, which I discovered a few years ago. I know it is not quite martial art, but it's a thing that goes well with my peaceful, non-combative nature <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
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Michael Janich
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OK, Travis, I'll get the ball rolling.
I started off boxing for a little over a year with a former Golden Gloves champ fromthe South side of Chicago. I then got involved in a style called American Self-Protection (ASP), which was a synthesis of boxing, Savate, judo, and aikido. After getting my black belt in that style (and realizing that black belts weren't that special to me), I studied Kyokushinkai karate (under the guise of Goju-Kempo) and military combatives with my senior ASP instructor.
After joining the Army at 17, I met a good friend named Steve Whittle who introduced me to Wu Ying Tao and Tae Kwon Do. Over the next nine years of military service, I met and learned from practitioners of wing chun gung fu, aikido, kenpo, sikiran, and various styles of Japanese and Okinawan karate. I also had the opportunity to begin my study of the Filipino martial arts in Hawaii under the late Raymond Tobosa.
After leaving the military and going to work for the government in Hong Kong and Thailand, I picked up some Muay Thai and more Filipino methods and had the chance to train with a large number of Special Forces folks.
Back in Hawaii, I got my instructor certification in Serrada Eskrima under John Lau and continued playing Muay Thai as part of that same curriculum.
After going to work for Paladin Press, I trained in Arnis de Mano under Bill Kipp and have had the opportunity to meet and train with a number of truly excellent practitioners, including James Keating, Joseph Simonet, Kelly Worden, Jesse Glover, Rick Hernandez and many others. I also worked closely with the late Colonel Rex Applegate and received direct training from him in his method of point shooting and a number of other combat discipines.
With all that said, I still consider myself a student first and am constantly looking for new stuff to learn.
Next!
Stay safe,
mike j
I started off boxing for a little over a year with a former Golden Gloves champ fromthe South side of Chicago. I then got involved in a style called American Self-Protection (ASP), which was a synthesis of boxing, Savate, judo, and aikido. After getting my black belt in that style (and realizing that black belts weren't that special to me), I studied Kyokushinkai karate (under the guise of Goju-Kempo) and military combatives with my senior ASP instructor.
After joining the Army at 17, I met a good friend named Steve Whittle who introduced me to Wu Ying Tao and Tae Kwon Do. Over the next nine years of military service, I met and learned from practitioners of wing chun gung fu, aikido, kenpo, sikiran, and various styles of Japanese and Okinawan karate. I also had the opportunity to begin my study of the Filipino martial arts in Hawaii under the late Raymond Tobosa.
After leaving the military and going to work for the government in Hong Kong and Thailand, I picked up some Muay Thai and more Filipino methods and had the chance to train with a large number of Special Forces folks.
Back in Hawaii, I got my instructor certification in Serrada Eskrima under John Lau and continued playing Muay Thai as part of that same curriculum.
After going to work for Paladin Press, I trained in Arnis de Mano under Bill Kipp and have had the opportunity to meet and train with a number of truly excellent practitioners, including James Keating, Joseph Simonet, Kelly Worden, Jesse Glover, Rick Hernandez and many others. I also worked closely with the late Colonel Rex Applegate and received direct training from him in his method of point shooting and a number of other combat discipines.
With all that said, I still consider myself a student first and am constantly looking for new stuff to learn.
Next!
Stay safe,
mike j
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travis quaas
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T'ai Chi Ch'uan, which has some useful trapping that comes out of push hands. It also builds strength, teaches relaxation and balance. But, until the fast set is learned, balance is static, not dynamic. I had a secondary motive. The only way into Dan Lee's JKD class was to become one of his T'ai Chi Ch'uan instructors.
For JKD, I had to learn something of its direct ancestor, Wing Chun. The trapping is more springy than T'ai Chi Ch'uan, probably less effective in the long run, but much easier to learn. Wing Chun is very good at close range.
The major advantage of JKD is attitude, which is that if something works for you, use it. If not, throw it away.
I studied Kenpo for a few years before another teacher knew me well enough to teach me Kun Tao, his family style. Kenpo teaches flow. Kun Tao is direct, brutal, and efficient.
At the time, I was helping teach T'ai Chi Ch'uan classes, studying JKD, learning Kenpo techniques, and trying to pick up Kun Tao, the first two with one teacher, the second two with another. Trying to integrate the various methods was probably the most useful learning experience of all.
Along the way I learned a few Tan Tui (Springy Legs) Shaolin lines when Daniel decided we needed to see how the other half lived. Great for developing lower body strength, but I never got into combative applications.
Now, I study escrima. I have evolved into a tool user.
Qship
For JKD, I had to learn something of its direct ancestor, Wing Chun. The trapping is more springy than T'ai Chi Ch'uan, probably less effective in the long run, but much easier to learn. Wing Chun is very good at close range.
The major advantage of JKD is attitude, which is that if something works for you, use it. If not, throw it away.
I studied Kenpo for a few years before another teacher knew me well enough to teach me Kun Tao, his family style. Kenpo teaches flow. Kun Tao is direct, brutal, and efficient.
At the time, I was helping teach T'ai Chi Ch'uan classes, studying JKD, learning Kenpo techniques, and trying to pick up Kun Tao, the first two with one teacher, the second two with another. Trying to integrate the various methods was probably the most useful learning experience of all.
Along the way I learned a few Tan Tui (Springy Legs) Shaolin lines when Daniel decided we needed to see how the other half lived. Great for developing lower body strength, but I never got into combative applications.
Now, I study escrima. I have evolved into a tool user.
Qship
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Joe Talmadge
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I trained in escrima serrada (stickwork only) for a few months before my instructor moved away. A muay Thai instructor shared the same gym, so I switched to that, and spent some time going back and forth between muay Thai and boxing. Took a few years off, then started training Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu when the first instructor showed up around here. That ended after I got a cervical spine injury.
I've spent the past few years training hard in couch potato fu. Then a few months ago I took MBC I & II, which reminded me how much I like martial arts, and got me motivated to do more knife training. So I set up some weekly informal knife-only training sessions with some Inayan eskrima students generous enough to help train me and work out for free; still training a 1-2 times per week in this. I took a few sayoc classes, but the commute was horrendous so I had to stop after just a few classes. Luckily I attended a local seminar with Ray Floro, and there I found a kali ilustrisimo instructor locally, who I've just started training with.
I've spent the past few years training hard in couch potato fu. Then a few months ago I took MBC I & II, which reminded me how much I like martial arts, and got me motivated to do more knife training. So I set up some weekly informal knife-only training sessions with some Inayan eskrima students generous enough to help train me and work out for free; still training a 1-2 times per week in this. I took a few sayoc classes, but the commute was horrendous so I had to stop after just a few classes. Luckily I attended a local seminar with Ray Floro, and there I found a kali ilustrisimo instructor locally, who I've just started training with.
dialex, my wife practiced tai-chi under Master Kim Dae Wong, and later she learned to do the same movements faster as a basic kung-fu, quite effective (she experimented on me "the monk who puush the mountain" and wasnt a pleasure)..travis, i only do a little of kali and escrima , knife and unarmed.but really little.when i was younger i had a lot of streetfight , now i hate those thing ,but i've learned enough in it, specially that to lose your life or the one of another person is really a matter of seconds, specially when you get really angry..and this scared me. i've only lost a couple of teeth, and probally did the same damage or little more, but i was lucky.
my best to all,
mister Janich ,i've found your video in PAL format , thanks a lot.
http://www.gnm.it - graphic design
my best to all,
mister Janich ,i've found your video in PAL format , thanks a lot.
http://www.gnm.it - graphic design
I started out studying Kenpo for about two years in college. I then took a 3-4 year layoff due to my job. Since then I have spent the last 17 years studying and teaching Aikido. I have also spent several years mixed in with that timeframe studying Shorinjin Ryu Saito Ninjitsu (not to be confused with Ninjutsu - the Ninja arts), and am currently studying Krav Maga, an Isreali self-defense system. And MBC of course.
I have found that my study of Aikido has really helped my progress in other arts due to the fact that Aikido places a strong emphasis on smooth flowing movement and balance, both of which are very valuable in any system.
I have found that my study of Aikido has really helped my progress in other arts due to the fact that Aikido places a strong emphasis on smooth flowing movement and balance, both of which are very valuable in any system.
I started out studying Kenpo for about two years in college. I then took a 3-4 year layoff due to my job. Since then I have spent the last 17 years studying and teaching Aikido. I have also spent several years mixed in with that timeframe studying Shorinjin Ryu Saito Ninjitsu (not to be confused with Ninjutsu - the Ninja arts), and am currently studying Krav Maga, an Isreali self-defense system. And MBC of course.
I have found that my study of Aikido has really helped my progress in other arts due to the fact that Aikido places a strong emphasis on smooth flowing movement and balance, both of which are very valuable in any system.
I have found that my study of Aikido has really helped my progress in other arts due to the fact that Aikido places a strong emphasis on smooth flowing movement and balance, both of which are very valuable in any system.
I started out studying Kenpo for about two years in college. I then took a 3-4 year layoff due to my job. Since then I have spent the last 17 years studying and teaching Aikido. I have also spent several years mixed in with that timeframe studying Shorinjin Ryu Saito Ninjitsu (not to be confused with Ninjutsu - the Ninja arts), and am currently studying Krav Maga, an Isreali self-defense system. And MBC of course.
I have found that my study of Aikido has really helped my progress in other arts due to the fact that Aikido places a strong emphasis on smooth flowing movement and balance, both of which are very valuable in any system.
I have found that my study of Aikido has really helped my progress in other arts due to the fact that Aikido places a strong emphasis on smooth flowing movement and balance, both of which are very valuable in any system.
I started out studying Kenpo for about two years in college. I then took a 3-4 year layoff due to my job. Since then I have spent the last 17 years studying and teaching Aikido. I have also spent several years mixed in with that timeframe studying Shorinjin Ryu Saito Ninjitsu (not to be confused with Ninjutsu - the Ninja arts), and am currently studying Krav Maga, an Isreali self-defense system. And MBC of course.
I have found that my study of Aikido has really helped my progress in other arts due to the fact that Aikido places a strong emphasis on smooth flowing movement and balance, both of which are very valuable in any system.
I have found that my study of Aikido has really helped my progress in other arts due to the fact that Aikido places a strong emphasis on smooth flowing movement and balance, both of which are very valuable in any system.
I started out studying Kenpo for about two years in college. I then took a 3-4 year layoff due to my job. Since then I have spent the last 17 years studying and teaching Aikido. I have also spent several years mixed in with that timeframe studying Shorinjin Ryu Saito Ninjitsu (not to be confused with Ninjutsu - the Ninja arts), and am currently studying Krav Maga, an Isreali self-defense system. And MBC of course.
I have found that my study of Aikido has really helped my progress in other arts due to the fact that Aikido places a strong emphasis on smooth flowing movement and balance, both of which are very valuable in any system.
I have found that my study of Aikido has really helped my progress in other arts due to the fact that Aikido places a strong emphasis on smooth flowing movement and balance, both of which are very valuable in any system.
I started out studying Kenpo for about two years in college. I then took a 3-4 year layoff due to my job. Since then I have spent the last 17 years studying and teaching Aikido. I have also spent several years mixed in with that timeframe studying Shorinjin Ryu Saito Ninjitsu (not to be confused with Ninjutsu - the Ninja arts), and am currently studying Krav Maga, an Isreali self-defense system. And MBC of course.
I have found that my study of Aikido has really helped my progress in other arts due to the fact that Aikido places a strong emphasis on smooth flowing movement and balance, both of which are very valuable in any system.
I have found that my study of Aikido has really helped my progress in other arts due to the fact that Aikido places a strong emphasis on smooth flowing movement and balance, both of which are very valuable in any system.
I started out studying Kenpo for about two years in college. I then took a 3-4 year layoff due to my job. Since then I have spent the last 17 years studying and teaching Aikido. I have also spent several years mixed in with that timeframe studying Shorinjin Ryu Saito Ninjitsu (not to be confused with Ninjutsu - the Ninja arts), and am currently studying Krav Maga, an Isreali self-defense system. And MBC of course.
I have found that my study of Aikido has really helped my progress in other arts due to the fact that Aikido places a strong emphasis on smooth flowing movement and balance, both of which are very valuable in any system.
I have found that my study of Aikido has really helped my progress in other arts due to the fact that Aikido places a strong emphasis on smooth flowing movement and balance, both of which are very valuable in any system.
If anyone asks me, I usually say without explanation that I studied Jujitsu. But in essence, and more or less in a very broad sense, I studied Jujitsu in its pre-World War II classic sense. Okay, that’s pretty vague, and not exactly true, but let me attempt an explanation:
From my understanding, and I am no expert on its history (there is a great group of guys out of New Jersey who have made pre-WWII Jujitsu their passion who are experts), but before Jujitsu became the "softened" and sport oriented versions we see today, it was quite a broad martial art that included striking, kicking, grappling (standing and ground), and weapons techniques. And over the years, a number of people have been working very hard to reintegrate Jujitsu to its original range. The best “integration” I’ve experienced was taught by Sensei Mits Yamashita, it blends Yoshinkai Aikido (in a general sense, Aikido's "hard style" is "classic jujitsu" minus the striking and ground fighting), with Brazilian Jujitsu (very similar to pre-WWII "judo" ), and various striking arts. For a good example of original Jujitsu Atemi Waza (generally meaning vital target striking, such as the eyes, nose, throat, groin, and knees, etc), look at American and British WWII CQC, this includes some of the more "practical" Jujitsu techniques.
Edited by - bildrac on 10/15/2003 11:49:36 AM
From my understanding, and I am no expert on its history (there is a great group of guys out of New Jersey who have made pre-WWII Jujitsu their passion who are experts), but before Jujitsu became the "softened" and sport oriented versions we see today, it was quite a broad martial art that included striking, kicking, grappling (standing and ground), and weapons techniques. And over the years, a number of people have been working very hard to reintegrate Jujitsu to its original range. The best “integration” I’ve experienced was taught by Sensei Mits Yamashita, it blends Yoshinkai Aikido (in a general sense, Aikido's "hard style" is "classic jujitsu" minus the striking and ground fighting), with Brazilian Jujitsu (very similar to pre-WWII "judo" ), and various striking arts. For a good example of original Jujitsu Atemi Waza (generally meaning vital target striking, such as the eyes, nose, throat, groin, and knees, etc), look at American and British WWII CQC, this includes some of the more "practical" Jujitsu techniques.
Edited by - bildrac on 10/15/2003 11:49:36 AM
Ititially, I began my martial arts studies in a system that combined the following: Go Ju Ryu, Shorin Ryu, Judo, and Pai Lum Kung Fu. After about six years, I earned my black belt in that system.
I also studied Hapkido for a time, and loved this style very much. Unfortunately, the instructor moved out of the area.
I've also studied a touch of the Filipino Martial Arts, and a little Jeet Kune Do.
Other than that, I learned very much from working in the prison where I do. I've watched inmates fight, and have fought quite a few times myself. I've also defended myself from inmates armed with weapons, and seen a couple dozen knife attacks in my time in the prison.
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I also studied Hapkido for a time, and loved this style very much. Unfortunately, the instructor moved out of the area.
I've also studied a touch of the Filipino Martial Arts, and a little Jeet Kune Do.
Other than that, I learned very much from working in the prison where I do. I've watched inmates fight, and have fought quite a few times myself. I've also defended myself from inmates armed with weapons, and seen a couple dozen knife attacks in my time in the prison.
Sniper -- One Shot, One Kill Email: ST8PEN01@aol.com