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Re: Spyderco 2023 Lists: Delivered & Upcoming
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 4:04 pm
by weeping minora
Kind of curious to see the Manix 2 Magnacut making the upcoming list, yet not the much earlier mentioned and available for pre-order (for the second year now) Native 5. As highly discussed as this knife is, is there something behind this? I don't recall this knife yet being released.
Re: Spyderco 2023 Lists: Delivered & Upcoming
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:11 pm
by RamZar
weeping minora wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 4:04 pm
Kind of curious to see the Manix 2 Magnacut making the upcoming list, yet not the much earlier mentioned and available for pre-order (for the second year now) Native 5. As highly discussed as this knife is, is there something behind this? I don't recall this knife yet being released.
Native5 Salt is a bit confusing. It started in 2018 with Native5 Salt LC200N PE & SE Yellow FRN (Model Numbers C41PYL5 & C41SYL5). Then, when Spyderco revealed Native5 Salt MagnaCut PE & SE Yellow FRN the Model Numbers became C41PYL5 & C41SYL5. Subsequently, Spyderco revealed Native5 Salt LC200N PE & SE Green FRN with Model Numbers C41PGR5 & C41SGR5.
Re: Spyderco 2023 Lists: Delivered & Upcoming
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:18 pm
by weeping minora
RamZar wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:11 pm
weeping minora wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 4:04 pm
Kind of curious to see the Manix 2 Magnacut making the upcoming list, yet not the much earlier mentioned and available for pre-order (for the second year now) Native 5. As highly discussed as this knife is, is there something behind this? I don't recall this knife yet being released.
Native5 Salt is a bit confusing. It started in 2018 with Native5 Salt LC200N PE & SE Yellow FRN (Model Numbers C41PYL5 & C41SYL5). Then, when Spyderco revealed Native5 Salt MagnaCut PE & SE Yellow FRN the Model Numbers became C41PYL5 & C41SYL5. Subsequently, Spyderco revealed Native5 Salt LC200N PE & SE Green FRN with Model Numbers C41PGR5 & C41SGR5.
If I understand correctly, this is not listed due a technicality, essentially already having been revealed/released? It is kind of a strange "CQI"/update to withhold the same model numbers, yet to virtually change the entire knife other than the color of FRN (and edge configurations).
Re: Spyderco 2023 Lists: Delivered & Upcoming
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:27 pm
by RamZar
weeping minora wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:18 pm
RamZar wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:11 pm
weeping minora wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 4:04 pm
Kind of curious to see the Manix 2 Magnacut making the upcoming list, yet not the much earlier mentioned and available for pre-order (for the second year now) Native 5. As highly discussed as this knife is, is there something behind this? I don't recall this knife yet being released.
Native5 Salt is a bit confusing. It started in 2018 with Native5 Salt LC200N PE & SE Yellow FRN (Model Numbers C41PYL5 & C41SYL5). Then, when Spyderco revealed Native5 Salt MagnaCut PE & SE Yellow FRN the Model Numbers became C41PYL5 & C41SYL5. Subsequently, Spyderco revealed Native5 Salt LC200N PE & SE Green FRN with Model Numbers C41PGR5 & C41SGR5.
If I understand correctly, this is not listed due a technicality, essentially already having been revealed/released? It is kind of a strange "CQI"/update to withhold the same model numbers, yet to virtually change the entire knife other than the color of FRN (and edge configurations).
Native5 Salt MagnaCut Yellow FRN really should've had new model numbers but instead it's using the model numbers of the old Native5 Salt LC200N Yellow FRN. All that happened to the Native5 Salt LC200N folders was a change of FRN color from Yellow to Green yet it got new model numbers!
- Native5 Salt LC200N PlainEdge Yellow FRN C41PYL5 (USA)
- Native5 Salt LC200N SpyderEdge Yellow FRN C41SYL5 (USA)
- Native5 Salt LC200N PlainEdge Green FRN C41PGR5 (USA)
- Native5 Salt LC200N SpyderEdge Green FRN C41SGR5 (USA)
- Native5 Salt MagnaCut PlainEdge Yellow FRN C41PYL5 (USA)
- Native5 Salt MagnaCut SpyderEdge Yellow FRN C41SYL5 (USA)
Re: Spyderco 2023 Lists: Delivered & Upcoming
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 4:54 pm
by Buddafucco
Re: Spyderco 2023 Lists: Delivered & Upcoming
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:18 pm
by Soulrack
RamZar wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:27 pm
Native5 Salt MagnaCut Yellow FRN really should've had new model numbers but instead it's using the model numbers of the old Native5 Salt LC200N Yellow FRN. All that happened to the Native5 Salt LC200N folders was a change of FRN color from Yellow to Green yet it got new model numbers!
- Native5 Salt LC200N PlainEdge Yellow FRN C41PYL5 (USA)
- Native5 Salt LC200N SpyderEdge Yellow FRN C41SYL5 (USA)
- Native5 Salt LC200N PlainEdge Green FRN C41PGR5 (USA)
- Native5 Salt LC200N SpyderEdge Green FRN C41SGR5 (USA)
- Native5 Salt MagnaCut PlainEdge Yellow FRN C41PYL5 (USA)
- Native5 Salt MagnaCut SpyderEdge Yellow FRN C41SYL5 (USA)
They did the same thing with the change from S30V to S45VN in the Paramilitary 2 series. To me the blade steel is way more important to keep track of than the scale color. It did change with the Paramilitary 2 Tanto, Wharncliffe and Emerson Wave blades which were also all S30V and Black G-10 initially.
Re: Spyderco 2023 Lists: Delivered & Upcoming
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 2:35 am
by RamZar
Soulrack wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:18 pm
RamZar wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:27 pm
Native5 Salt MagnaCut Yellow FRN really should've had new model numbers but instead it's using the model numbers of the old Native5 Salt LC200N Yellow FRN. All that happened to the Native5 Salt LC200N folders was a change of FRN color from Yellow to Green yet it got new model numbers!
- Native5 Salt LC200N PlainEdge Yellow FRN C41PYL5 (USA)
- Native5 Salt LC200N SpyderEdge Yellow FRN C41SYL5 (USA)
- Native5 Salt LC200N PlainEdge Green FRN C41PGR5 (USA)
- Native5 Salt LC200N SpyderEdge Green FRN C41SGR5 (USA)
- Native5 Salt MagnaCut PlainEdge Yellow FRN C41PYL5 (USA)
- Native5 Salt MagnaCut SpyderEdge Yellow FRN C41SYL5 (USA)
They did the same thing with the change from S30V to S45VN in the Paramilitary 2 series. To me the blade steel is way more important to keep track of than the scale color. It did change with the Paramilitary 2 Tanto, Wharncliffe and Emerson Wave blades which were also all S30V and Black G-10 initially.
Native5 started with S35VN in 2011 and around 2018 switched to S30V while keeping the same model numbers.
Re: Spyderco 2023 Lists: Delivered & Upcoming
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:27 pm
by weeping minora
RamZar wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 2:35 am
Soulrack wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:18 pm
RamZar wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 6:27 pm
Native5 Salt MagnaCut Yellow FRN really should've had new model numbers but instead it's using the model numbers of the old Native5 Salt LC200N Yellow FRN. All that happened to the Native5 Salt LC200N folders was a change of FRN color from Yellow to Green yet it got new model numbers!
- Native5 Salt LC200N PlainEdge Yellow FRN C41PYL5 (USA)
- Native5 Salt LC200N SpyderEdge Yellow FRN C41SYL5 (USA)
- Native5 Salt LC200N PlainEdge Green FRN C41PGR5 (USA)
- Native5 Salt LC200N SpyderEdge Green FRN C41SGR5 (USA)
- Native5 Salt MagnaCut PlainEdge Yellow FRN C41PYL5 (USA)
- Native5 Salt MagnaCut SpyderEdge Yellow FRN C41SYL5 (USA)
They did the same thing with the change from S30V to S45VN in the Paramilitary 2 series. To me the blade steel is way more important to keep track of than the scale color. It did change with the Paramilitary 2 Tanto, Wharncliffe and Emerson Wave blades which were also all S30V and Black G-10 initially.
Native5 started with S35VN in 2011 and around 2018 switched to S30V while keeping the same model numbers.
It would be one thing if only the blade steel had changed, but from what I've gathered, it sounds like
everything has had to change in order to introduce this Magnacut Salt variant, minus the yellow scales.
Re: Spyderco 2023 Lists: Delivered & Upcoming
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 5:10 pm
by Buddafucco
Re: Spyderco 2023 Lists: Delivered & Upcoming
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:38 pm
by nerdlock
I'd like to add that Yojimbo to my purple Cru collection, but the price is just out of my reach for now. $196 compared to the last DLT Yojimbo 20CV DLC which I got for $172.20, a whopping $23.80 increase.
Re: Spyderco 2023 Lists: Delivered & Upcoming
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:25 pm
by RamZar
The DLT Yojimbo2 CruWear DLC with G-10 at $196 is a relatively good price when you compare it to the regular production Yojimbo2 S30V DLC with G-10 at $217!
Re: Spyderco 2023 Lists: Delivered & Upcoming
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:09 pm
by Buddafucco
SpyderEdge Yellow Native5 just went back in stock at Spyderco.com. Says LC200N. Misprint?...
https://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details/C41YL5/1162
Re: Spyderco 2023 Lists: Delivered & Upcoming
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:10 pm
by weeping minora
New Old Stock
Re: Spyderco 2023 Lists: Delivered & Upcoming
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:11 pm
by Buddafucco
It's been out of stock for a very very long time.
Re: Spyderco 2023 Lists: Delivered & Upcoming
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:19 pm
by weeping minora
Buddafucco wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:11 pm
It's been out of stock for a very very long time.
It was meant more as a joke, however new old stock shows up for sale at retailers sometimes decades after production has stopped, or changed. Retailers will go in and buy deadstock from a company and sell it as NOS. Happens to companies who produce butchery/culinary knives quite a bit more than one would expect.
Re: Spyderco 2023 Lists: Delivered & Upcoming
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:35 pm
by RamZar
I emailed Spyderco about the in stock Native5 Salt SpyderEdge with Yellow FRN (C41SYL5) on whether it’s LC200N or MagnaCut. The image, description and specs say LC200N but it should be MagnaCut.
https://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details/C41YL5/1162
Re: Spyderco 2023 Lists: Delivered & Upcoming
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:41 pm
by Mushroom
Once people know this, it’s going to sell out immediately! I’d imagine this means it’s going to start showing up at retailers soon too.
Re: Spyderco 2023 Lists: Delivered & Upcoming
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:47 pm
by harpo1
Are you saying they said it was Magnacut?
Re: Spyderco 2023 Lists: Delivered & Upcoming
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:57 pm
by RamZar
harpo1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:47 pm
Are you saying they said it was Magnacut?
I’m saying that the Native5 Salt with Yellow FRN is in their 2022 catalog with MagnaCut (C41PYL5 & C41SYL5).
I haven’t heard back from Spyderco.
Re: Spyderco 2023 Lists: Delivered & Upcoming
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:10 pm
by Mrj
Confirmed. Magnacut
