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Hawkbill Caribbean
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:29 pm
by Takuan
A while back, I created a thread to discuss the possibility of a Spyderhawk 2:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87350. We got the discussion going again recently and I floated crazy the idea of a Caribbean with a Superhawk-style blade. Specifically, it would have the handle of the Caribbean with a large, flat-ground, gently-curved hawkbill blade where the edge is pushed all the way up to the handle (rather than having a finger choil). It could be made out of LC200N (or possibly even MagnaCut). Here is a badly done image of what it might look like, though you'll have to imagine it with the choil/ricasso completely removed because I'm not good enough to manipulate the image that way.
They could call it the Osprey (which is a seagoing hawk) or the Nacunda (a type of Caribbean nighthawk), though I'm sure there are better names out there.
The Caribbean is my favorite large Spyderco design, so I would love to see the concept used with other blade shapes (grooved G-10 handle, compression lock, FFG blade with no choil/ricasso, and corrosion-resistant steel). At the suggestion of wrdwrght, I started a new poll to see if there might be interest in such a thing. Please vote and discuss!
Re: Hawkbill Caribbean
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:07 pm
by wrdwrght
Thanks, Takuan.
Hey, Sal! Not to take away from recent requests for the excellent Spyderhawk’s return, CQI’d or not, but how about a handle-forward hawkbill? Please?
The Superhawk, which I just acquired NIB some 10 years after my SuperLeaf, is superb. Wouldn’t a handle-forward Caribbean Osprey be superb-er?
My AUS6 Harpy, just arrived today, needs a salty companion without a choil. Whaddyathink?
Re: Hawkbill Caribbean
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:31 pm
by JD Spydo
I voted for # 1. But it must be available in SE & PE both to be versatile enough for my chores. The more I gaze at that handle on the Caribbean the more I'm liking this idea.
No I want the Spyderhawk and/or Spyderhawk 2 to be it's own separate project. Because I doubt if both of them would be marketed at the same time anyway.
No too concerned on the blade steel selection on this one. Even VG-10 I believe would be adequate to start with until the popularity blossomed.
Re: Hawkbill Caribbean
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:10 pm
by Dazen
If the Caribbean is made in Peel-ply Carbon Fiber I will by every blade configuration available.
But sadly, they would be my last Spyderco’s because there would never be a better model IMOP.
Re: Hawkbill Caribbean
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:37 pm
by olywa
"Hey, Sal! Not to take away from recent requests for the excellent Spyderhawk’s return, CQI’d or not, but how about a handle-forward hawkbill? Please?"
I'm with you! Either a Hawk Jumper in VG-10 or a Salt Jumper HB in Magnacut would be a 'must buy' for me.
Re: Hawkbill Caribbean
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 7:16 pm
by SchoonerBum
I love the Caribbean (it and the RockJumper are my two favorite handles) and this is a great idea, I just haven't figured out an efficient and practical way to close a compression lock with my left hand. If the Caribbean was a backlock it would be my most-carried knife. For now I'll put my vote in for a Spyderhawk Salt instead.
Re: Hawkbill Caribbean
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 7:19 pm
by Cl1ff
I’d like express my own desire/encouragement for the hawkbill blade shape ideas.
I love recurves and there’s every bit as many possibilities for a hawkbill pocket knife as any other blade shape in terms of design and function. It’s cool to see that I’m not the only one interested in some of the typically unpopular blade shapes.
The RockJumper or Carribean are great platforms for such variations if enough interest exist.
Re: Hawkbill Caribbean
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 7:35 pm
by JRinFL
I voted #1 because I’d like to encourage more blade shapes using the excellent Caribbean handle. The name Nacunda is good, as is Osprey.
Re: Hawkbill Caribbean
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 7:49 pm
by VooDooChild
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87074
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=92091
This idea doesnt seem to get much interest when it comes up.
Honestly, even though I also asked for this, I would rather have a SpyderHawk 2 salt.
Re: Hawkbill Caribbean
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:33 pm
by Bemo
I'd give a RockJumper Hawkbill a try for sure. Not so much the Caribbean.
Re: Hawkbill Caribbean
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:50 pm
by ZrowsN1s
I'd rather Spyderco focus on making as many variations as possible for the in the works compression lock FRN SUPERHAWK.
We've discussed the possibility of doing Hawkbill, Leaf, and Reverse S versions. Once established it could be a platform for PE tool steels, SE Salt steels and everything in between.
Re: Hawkbill Caribbean
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:02 pm
by max808
ZrowsN1s wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:50 pm
I'd rather Spyderco focus on making as many variations as possible for the in the works compression lock FRN SUPERHAWK.
We've discussed the possibility of doing Hawkbill, Leaf, and Reverse S versions. Once established it could be a platform for PE tool steels, SE Salt steels and everything in between.
+1
Re: Hawkbill Caribbean
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:26 pm
by sal
I have a hand made Prototype of a Caribbean Hawkbill being made for me by Roque.
On a "Handle forward" Hawkbill, I'd like to wait until I see reaction on the "Handle forward" Leaf Jumper.
sal
Re: Hawkbill Caribbean
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:10 pm
by kobold
SE and I am in.
Re: Hawkbill Caribbean
Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 11:30 pm
by SpyderGrill
I voted Yes and dont get rid of the Black and Yellow stripped handle!
Re: Hawkbill Caribbean
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:49 am
by wrdwrght
sal wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:26 pm
I have a hand made Prototype of a Caribbean Hawkbill being made for me by Roque.
On a "Handle forward" Hawkbill, I'd like to wait until I see reaction on the "Handle forward" Leaf Jumper.
sal
Lovely to hear. Good things come to those who wait.
When the Caribbean appears, handle-forward or not, maybe we could call it, affectionately, the “Hawksbill Turtle”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawksbill ... prov=sfti1
I’m so in on the handle-forward Leaf Jumper.
Re: Hawkbill Caribbean
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:17 pm
by Skar
I don't have interest in the spyderhawk.
The Caribbean is a favorite and I would be on board for a hawkbill design.
Re: Hawkbill Caribbean
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:29 pm
by ZrowsN1s
Ergonomically the Caribbean is a no go for me. The handle is too wide (tall). And really not a fan of the bumblebee look. Always glad to see more Hawkbills options for people though.
Re: Hawkbill Caribbean
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:55 pm
by olywa
Love my Rock Jumper and can't get the Leaf Jumper soon enough. I would be on a 'Hawk Jumper' in a heartbeat.
Re: Hawkbill Caribbean
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2022 4:21 pm
by Takuan
sal wrote: ↑Mon Sep 05, 2022 9:26 pm
I have a hand made Prototype of a Caribbean Hawkbill being made for me by Roque.
This is great news!