The Stovepipe matches the specs of the KA Bill the Butcher folder. Spyderco has never taken another maker's design and remade it with different tweaks that make it something completely different, unless the maker themselves has made such a version first. They are meant to be near-faithful, lower-cost production replicas of a custom maker's designs, Spyderco AFAIK has no liberty to then run with the design and incorporate changes we or they may want to see.
2022 Reveal — Stovepipe Thread C260TIP
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Re: 2022 Reveal — Stovepipe Thread C260TIP
Looks great, did you bronze anodize the handle?
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Thats why they make the Byrd line. For people who just think a knife is a knife. Does a Rolex tell any better time Than a Casio Digital? Of course not...Mushroom wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 7:58 amWow!!! More than double the price for a regrind?!? That’s insane, unjustifiable, laughable… the list goes on.RadioactiveSpyder wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 3:07 amSpeaking of custom versions, these are two versions that David Rydbom offered recently (some very hefty markups IMHO).
Also, completely off-topic - for the first time ever, I received a notice while logging in tonight that I had exceed my number of login attempts and had to solve a captcha in order to get in. I have not signed in for a couple of days... Has that happened to anyone else? Does that imply someone other than me has been trying to access my account?
Re: 2022 Reveal — Stovepipe Thread C260TIP
LOL! Well I’m not a person who just thinks a knife is a knife. Those are not customs and I’m confident saying that charging more than double the retail price for a regrind is everything I called it before and more.Archimedes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 6:21 pmThats why they make the Byrd line. For people who just think a knife is a knife. Does a Rolex tell any better time Than a Casio Digital? Of course not...Mushroom wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 7:58 amWow!!! More than double the price for a regrind?!? That’s insane, unjustifiable, laughable… the list goes on.RadioactiveSpyder wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 3:07 amSpeaking of custom versions, these are two versions that David Rydbom offered recently (some very hefty markups IMHO).
Also, completely off-topic - for the first time ever, I received a notice while logging in tonight that I had exceed my number of login attempts and had to solve a captcha in order to get in. I have not signed in for a couple of days... Has that happened to anyone else? Does that imply someone other than me has been trying to access my account?
Do you think I’m talking about Spyderco’s price? Because I was one of the first on the forum to defend that. $875 for a reground Stovepipe is nothing short of ludicrous.
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The list goes on.Mushroom wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 6:48 pmLOL! Well I’m not a person who just thinks a knife is a knife. Those are not customs and I’m confident saying that charging more than double the retail price for a regrind is everything I called it before and more.Archimedes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 6:21 pmThats why they make the Byrd line. For people who just think a knife is a knife. Does a Rolex tell any better time Than a Casio Digital? Of course not...Mushroom wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 7:58 amWow!!! More than double the price for a regrind?!? That’s insane, unjustifiable, laughable… the list goes on.RadioactiveSpyder wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 3:07 amSpeaking of custom versions, these are two versions that David Rydbom offered recently (some very hefty markups IMHO).
Also, completely off-topic - for the first time ever, I received a notice while logging in tonight that I had exceed my number of login attempts and had to solve a captcha in order to get in. I have not signed in for a couple of days... Has that happened to anyone else? Does that imply someone other than me has been trying to access my account?
Do you think I’m talking about Spyderco’s price? Because I was one of the first on the forum to defend that. $875 for a reground Stovepipe is nothing short of ludicrous.
How much would you charge to regrind a knife to that level of perfection? If you can pull that level of work off for less I will send you my knife. I am waiting. I will pay 450 for the knife and I am assuming you can deliver perfection for 50 bucks. So I am all in for for 500. I am a man of my word so buy the knife and grind it and I will send you 500 plus shipping. Deal?
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Why are so many folks being so nasty in this thread? At this point, I’m almost hoping Kristi shuts it down.
Charging $455 above the already quite high MAP price on this model is indeed over-reaching. My go-to person for the absolute best reprofiling and sharpening work is Josh at Razor Edge Knives. A regrind job like the one shown would cost no more than $250 max (if that), certainly not $50 but also certainly not $450+. The one with the regrind and handle work is $850 over MAP, does that seem reasonable? That was the point of my posting those prices, not for forum members to tear into each other. This is the opposite of a “shiny footprints” approach if I’ve ever seen it. Everyone agrees the knife is very expensive to start with, many people just don’t like the design, that’s completely fine and your opinion. The world is so full of people tearing each other down, the reason I love this forum is it’s an oasis from all that - however this thread is demonstrating otherwise. I’m sure I’ll get raked over the coals for even posting this, but this is completely against the spirit of this place.
Charging $455 above the already quite high MAP price on this model is indeed over-reaching. My go-to person for the absolute best reprofiling and sharpening work is Josh at Razor Edge Knives. A regrind job like the one shown would cost no more than $250 max (if that), certainly not $50 but also certainly not $450+. The one with the regrind and handle work is $850 over MAP, does that seem reasonable? That was the point of my posting those prices, not for forum members to tear into each other. This is the opposite of a “shiny footprints” approach if I’ve ever seen it. Everyone agrees the knife is very expensive to start with, many people just don’t like the design, that’s completely fine and your opinion. The world is so full of people tearing each other down, the reason I love this forum is it’s an oasis from all that - however this thread is demonstrating otherwise. I’m sure I’ll get raked over the coals for even posting this, but this is completely against the spirit of this place.
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Re: 2022 Reveal — Stovepipe Thread C260TIP
Wow… this is a post you can be proud of tomorrow.Archimedes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:10 pmThe list goes on.Mushroom wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 6:48 pmLOL! Well I’m not a person who just thinks a knife is a knife. Those are not customs and I’m confident saying that charging more than double the retail price for a regrind is everything I called it before and more.Archimedes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 20, 2022 6:21 pmThats why they make the Byrd line. For people who just think a knife is a knife. Does a Rolex tell any better time Than a Casio Digital? Of course not...
Do you think I’m talking about Spyderco’s price? Because I was one of the first on the forum to defend that. $875 for a reground Stovepipe is nothing short of ludicrous.
How much would you charge to regrind a knife to that level of perfection? If you can pull that level of work off for less I will send you my knife. I am waiting. I will pay 450 for the knife and I am assuming you can deliver perfection for 50 bucks. So I am all in for for 500. I am a man of my word so buy the knife and grind it and I will send you 500 plus shipping. Deal?
Just to entertain you though, expecting that work to be done for $50 is more unreasonable than asking $450 to do it. LOL Are you just trying to shame me for expressing my opinion or are you trying to have a real discussion? Your post is reading as the former.
I agree on all points. I may have instigated the nastiness by calling the price of the regrind unjustifiable because apparently that was taken as a challenge. I did not intend to cause such a controversy.RadioactiveSpyder wrote: Why are so many folks being so nasty in this thread? At this point, I’m almost hoping Kristi shuts it down.
Charging $455 above the already quite high MAP price on this model is indeed over-reaching. My go-to person for the absolute best reprofiling and sharpening work is Josh at Razor Edge Knives. A regrind job like the one shown would cost no more than $250 max (if that), certainly not $50 but also certainly not $450+. The one with the regrind and handle work is $850 over MAP, does that seem reasonable? That was the point of my posting those prices, not for forum members to tear into each other. This is the opposite of a “shiny footprints” approach if I’ve ever seen it. Everyone agrees the knife is very expensive to start with, many people just don’t like the design, that’s completely fine and your opinion. The world is so full of people tearing each other down, the reason I love this forum is it’s an oasis from all that - however this thread is demonstrating otherwise. I’m sure I’ll get raked over the coals for even posting this, but this is completely against the spirit of this place.
I’ll just say, I can’t wait to eventually get one of these knives. It’s going to remain bone stock for its entire life. Just the way I like ‘em!
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Re: 2022 Reveal — Stovepipe Thread C260TIP
Off-putting is the first word that comes to mind, quickly followed by gouging.
Very little about this knife or designer is appealing to me.
*ETA: After looking at his website and seeing that there were only 12 regrinds done, the exclusivity explains the price. I thought he was offering the regrinds as a service from the shared screenshot. Still not a fan of the knife though...
Very little about this knife or designer is appealing to me.
*ETA: After looking at his website and seeing that there were only 12 regrinds done, the exclusivity explains the price. I thought he was offering the regrinds as a service from the shared screenshot. Still not a fan of the knife though...
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So it goes.
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If you can't say something nice...
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Seems like the 15 minutes of fame for this one have passed, but I'm still enjoying it and am impressed with all the details I keep noticing about it. For example, the contoured scales end at the scalloped cutout (where your index finger sits), everything above that up to the pivot is actually flat. Also when it's closed, nearly every curve of the blade matches contours of the handle very smoothly and continuously. The front end of the blade (where so many dislike the horn) slopes directly into a matching slope on the bottom end of the handle (second pic). Also, the pivot end of the closed blade lines up directly with a complementary angle on the handle as well (third pic). The clip (which I unfortunately didn't take a decent shot of) also matches multiple angles of the scale, both the rounded contour on the back end and well as the line at the butt end of the knife. These little details that are hard to catch unless you really spend some time fondling it, and really shows how much time the Taichung factory folks must have spent making this custom maker's model a reality.
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Re: 2022 Reveal — Stovepipe Thread C260TIP
^ Thanks for the close-up photos and the description of those little details.
I would say they are still in demand. I managed to buy one late last night at one of the few dealers that have shipping to my country.
I was going to post this morning that they were available on that website, but when I checked again they were out of stock.
Hopefully I'll get to handle the Stovepipe in person before the end of March.
I would say they are still in demand. I managed to buy one late last night at one of the few dealers that have shipping to my country.
I was going to post this morning that they were available on that website, but when I checked again they were out of stock.
Hopefully I'll get to handle the Stovepipe in person before the end of March.
Re: 2022 Reveal — Stovepipe Thread C260TIP
Peacedivision wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:40 pmSomeone is going to make a wicked re-grind.
excuse my MS paint skills.
Why is your pic different !!?? Shows no "blunt tip".
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That is not at all what that means.
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What makes me angry is the way they're forcing us to buy these! Forcing us!! Is that even legal?
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Did you receive your Stovepipe yet? How do you like it? Discovered any specific purposes or usage?gspam1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:42 amLove at first sight for me. I ordered as soon as I saw Eric demonstrate it on a Shot Show retailer video on the first day. I carry small, light Spydercos, and have enough knives (like everyone on this forum) to fulfill every conceivable practical purpose. So, the Stovepipe will have to fulfill some impractical purpose :)
I’m expecting mine this week and it will be my first Spyderco folder. It was love at first sight for me too and I’ve been looking and reading on folders and brands for several months now.
The Stovepipe being my first Spiderco knife is also, the reason I registered with this forum.
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Hi, Stovepipe:
Welcome to our forum. We hope you enjoy your time with us!
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Re: 2022 Reveal — Stovepipe Thread C260TIP
My Stovepipe arrived today.
It fits my hand well, though the pocket clip is a bit of a hotspot when I grip the knife firmly. Won't be the first knife I grab if I need to whittle something, but for the typical occasional cutting tasks that I carry a knife for, it will work fine.
It fits my hand well, though the pocket clip is a bit of a hotspot when I grip the knife firmly. Won't be the first knife I grab if I need to whittle something, but for the typical occasional cutting tasks that I carry a knife for, it will work fine.