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Re: did somebody say magnacut manix...?!

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TINCUP59 wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 6:38 pm
I ordered from blade HQ, anyone got a shipping info yet.....?? this will be my first Manix and im really excited. My first spydie was a Native 5 salt, now i have shaman in 4v, lil native 20cv, Colorado USA made are only ones i buy
the manix is my favorite knife, and spyderco certainly makes great knives in golden, but i urge you not to overlook the knives produced in other countries. taichung spydercos are really great. seki are not as good as golden, but they are still great for what they are. even the budget line from china is really good. there are many great models you'll miss out on if you limit yourself to golden.
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Re: did somebody say magnacut manix...?!

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TINCUP59 wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 6:38 pm
I ordered from blade HQ, anyone got a shipping info yet.....?? this will be my first Manix and im really excited. My first spydie was a Native 5 salt, now i have shaman in 4v, lil native 20cv, Colorado USA made are only ones i buy
I ordered mine from Nationalknives, it's arriving today, I might post some photos later, stay tuned!
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Re: did somebody say magnacut manix...?!

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ImageThe Manix 2 LW MagnaCut arrived!

I need to mention a few things. It looks like there are some slightly differences between Manix 2 LW MagnaCut and GP knives exclusive Rex 45

The spring lock on Rex 45 is stronger compared with MagnaCut, it’s a little bit harder to close it.

The blade on MagnaCut is slightly off center as you can see on the photo
Also there is a hair gap on the back of the scale on MagnaCut. I might need to take the knife apart and sand the scales properly and then I will dye them on black color.

The Spyderco logo is more pronounced on Rex 45, I’m not sure why, maybe someone can explain.
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Re: did somebody say magnacut manix...?!

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gimibala wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:27 pm
The blade on MagnaCut is slightly off center as you can see on the photo

My MagnaManix also arrived with the blade slightly off center, about the same amount as yours, but in the opposite direction. I have not tried the straightening tricks yet. It's slight enough that it's probably not worth the effort. I had not noticed the hairline gap, but when I looked, I can see may be a quarter-hair gap or less in the areas between screws, in the same areas as yours. Below my level of noticing, had you not pointed it out. I checked my other MxLWs and noticed similar on the recent red 4V, but not on older pinned models.

Regards the non-black Spyder logo, I believe this was recently discussed in the "Random Spydie Chat" thread.

I'm very happy to have this knife, and the heretical thought occurred: "Do I really need any other knife?" Fortunately I was able to quickly stamp that thought out...but it did occur, even if for a moment.
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Re: did somebody say magnacut manix...?!

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Bolster wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:40 pm
I'm very happy to have this knife, and the heretical thought occurred: "Do I really need any other knife?" Fortunately I was able to quickly stamp that thought out...but it did occur, even if for a moment.
the easy answer is at least one more to blade swap into a g10 handle.
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Re: did somebody say magnacut manix...?!

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ladybug93 wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:57 pm
Bolster wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:40 pm
I'm very happy to have this knife, and the heretical thought occurred: "Do I really need any other knife?" Fortunately I was able to quickly stamp that thought out...but it did occur, even if for a moment.
the easy answer is at least one more to blade swap into a g10 handle.

^ Heresy.
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Re: did somebody say magnacut manix...?!

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Bolster wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:58 pm
ladybug93 wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:57 pm
Bolster wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:40 pm
I'm very happy to have this knife, and the heretical thought occurred: "Do I really need any other knife?" Fortunately I was able to quickly stamp that thought out...but it did occur, even if for a moment.
the easy answer is at least one more to blade swap into a g10 handle.

^ Heresy.
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Re: did somebody say magnacut manix...?!

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Bolster wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:40 pm
My MagnaManix also arrived with the blade slightly off center, about the same amount as yours, but in the opposite direction. I have not tried the straightening tricks yet. It's slight enough that it's probably not worth the effort.

I gave re-centering a shot after all. It was as simple as loosening the pivot screw, pushing the blade over a little, and tightening. Now centered, and staying that way through multiple cycles.
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Re: did somebody say magnacut manix...?!

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Bolster wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:24 pm
Bolster wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:40 pm
My MagnaManix also arrived with the blade slightly off center, about the same amount as yours, but in the opposite direction. I have not tried the straightening tricks yet. It's slight enough that it's probably not worth the effort.

I gave re-centering a shot after all. It was as simple as loosening the pivot screw, pushing the blade over a little, and tightening. Now centered, and staying that way through multiple cycles.
Good information! I will have to do the same thing because it bothers me a little bit that the blade is not sitting perfectly on center.
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Thanks Bolster! I centered my blade.
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Re: did somebody say magnacut manix...?!

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My Manix Salt also arrived today, and also had an off-centered blade like the image above (though I was similarly able to get it re-centered with a bit of fiddling with the screws as expected).

My scales are also similarly ill-fitting against the back spacer, unfortunately. Almost seems like the scale is slightly warped, as just like in gimibala's image above, you can see that they only meet flush against the back spacer where the screws are.

The bigger issue with mine, though, is that it has truly bad lock sticking. I suspect there is a sizeable burr or something on the ball bearing inside the cage, because while I don't see one on the blade tang where the bearing would slide into, there is clearly a ledge you have to force past to get it to disengage every time. The amount of force needed to get past that burr is pretty bad; I actually don't think everyone in my family would be able to unlock the knife currently. My Rex 45 version is completely smooth by comparison.

Suppose this one is headed back to Golden unfortunately. I'll give it a few days to see if the burr gives way with some fidgeting, but it's honestly shredding my thumb trying to do so.
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Wallach wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:04 am
... truly bad lock sticking...

I'm not 100% sure what counts as CBBL lock stick, is it an auditory and tactile "pop" as you unlock the knife? That the thumb stud does not move smoothly back, but takes some thumb pressure and then "pops" as it suddenly unlocks? If so, I have that on 3 of 5 Mx LWs. The 2 that don't have it are the ones that have the most pocket time, so they probably broke in with use. I will say that the new Magnacut Mx LW takes the most effort to unlock. I'd not noticed it until you mentioned it, but did notice when I checked the Magna against the others. I assume the heavy unlock is simply because it's new--I don't imagine it has anything to do with the steel itself. Yours must be more severe if you noticed it right away.

With the blade closed, I put a tiny drop of mineral oil on the blade cutout where the ball engages. It smoothed it out considerably. Try that before you return it.
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...sorry double tap, hit wrong button to edit...
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Bolster wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:34 am
Wallach wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:04 am
... truly bad lock sticking...

I'm not 100% sure what counts as CBBL lock stick, is it an auditory and tactile "pop" as you unlock the knife? That the thumb stud does not move smoothly back, but takes some thumb pressure and then "pops" as it suddenly unlocks? If so, I have that on 3 of 5 Mx LWs. The 2 that don't have it are the ones that have the most pocket time, so they probably broke in with use. I will say that the new Magnacut Mx LW takes the most effort to unlock. I'd not noticed it until you mentioned it, but did notice when I checked the Magna against the others. I assume the heavy unlock is simply because it's new--I don't imagine it has anything to do with the steel itself. Yours must be more severe if you noticed it right away.
Right, there's clearly a ledge or burr you have to force past where it will audibly click, then you can pull down and get movement on the cage. I think it's a combination of this particular burr being pretty stubborn / large, and the fact that my other new one in Rex 45 has absolutely none, you just immediately hit the spring tension when pulling back to disengage the lock. The difference is indeed pretty extreme; I thought the Rex 45 had a fair amount of tension compared to say my Hogue Deka, but the Salt one is just straight up hard to unlock. I would not feel comfortable handing this knife to another person as it is.

I have looked pretty closely at the slot in the blade tang, and both of them have a small marking where you can see the "track" of the bearing, and I don't really see an obvious burr or deformation there. Which is probably a good thing, because if it were in the MagnaCut itself, I don't think the bearing would work it out through friction anytime soon. My guess is it's in the bearing or cage somewhere. I did put a tiny dab of KPL there, and while it makes a tiny difference, it still is pretty miserable to try and unlock.

In the grand scheme, it's not a big deal - if it doesn't work itself out (or at least noticeably change) in a week or so, I can send it back for some TLC. I can't pretend I don't have plenty of knives to use in the meantime.
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Mine came well centered, but does have this type of lock stick. My M4, 4v, and Spy27 don't have this lock stick and are smooth, none of my g10 versions have this issue either. I guess time will tell if it breaks in or not. This is going to be my daily beater so I'm not too heart broken it's not the best manix lw example I own. Always easier psycologically for me to thrash on a knife that feels like it got slapped together and passed down the line with a Midlands "that'll do" attitude, compared to one that you can tell some people all showed up at work and really cared about doing their best that day. My SNK 4v showed up absolutely flawless and now Im having a hard time convincing myself to use it and ruin it's perfectness.
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Mine came centered and no frcp gaps, but is definitely stiffer than my other lw Manix. It should break in nicely I'm sure. As to the issues posted above I would immediately send it back asap. I get these are mass produced sub $200 knives and no-one is perfect.
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Reading all the posts above it seems like some of the Manix 2 LW's that were released recently have some small issues. In my case, I centered the blade on my MagnaCut and I will sand down the scales before I dye them black. The scales on the back are not flush and the hair-line gap bothers me.

On my GP-exclusive Rex 45 the problem is the lock, I need to put more force in order to unlock the blade and close it.
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I'm happy to report that I've gotten three new Spyderco's in the last week+, all three are absolutely perfect! ;)
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ladybug93 wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 12:25 pm
TINCUP59 wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 6:38 pm
I ordered from blade HQ, anyone got a shipping info yet.....?? this will be my first Manix and im really excited. My first spydie was a Native 5 salt, now i have shaman in 4v, lil native 20cv, Colorado USA made are only ones i buy
the manix is my favorite knife, and spyderco certainly makes great knives in golden, but i urge you not to overlook the knives produced in other countries. taichung spydercos are really great. seki are not as good as golden, but they are still great for what they are. even the budget line from china is really good. there are many great models you'll miss out on if you limit yourself to golden.
Thanks ladybug93! looking forward to getting my Manix for sure!!! Yes i know there are some really great other knives they make but I like supporting the good old people here in our Country!! my wife is a Vet and both my sis and brother in laws work in Law enforcement, so we try and vote with our Dollars. if i can i do not like seeing my hard earned cash go somewhere else!
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TINCUP59 wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:31 am
ladybug93 wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 12:25 pm
TINCUP59 wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 6:38 pm
I ordered from blade HQ, anyone got a shipping info yet.....?? this will be my first Manix and im really excited. My first spydie was a Native 5 salt, now i have shaman in 4v, lil native 20cv, Colorado USA made are only ones i buy
the manix is my favorite knife, and spyderco certainly makes great knives in golden, but i urge you not to overlook the knives produced in other countries. taichung spydercos are really great. seki are not as good as golden, but they are still great for what they are. even the budget line from china is really good. there are many great models you'll miss out on if you limit yourself to golden.
Thanks ladybug93! looking forward to getting my Manix for sure!!! Yes i know there are some really great other knives they make but I like supporting the good old people here in our Country!! my wife is a Vet and both my sis and brother in laws work in Law enforcement, so we try and vote with our Dollars. if i can i do not like seeing my hard earned cash go somewhere else!
i get that. i'm a vet also. spyderco is still an american company though, and i'm sure they would appreciate more of your dollars for great models produced overseas. nothing wrong with your choice though. i'm not trying to pressure; just encourage. :)
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C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
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