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Re: Manix2 lwt Still Pinned
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2022 5:50 pm
by mtb
GarageBoy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 5:45 am
Any update to the Maxamet one? I guess I could get a pinned one and just use compressed air and oil to keep the pivot rust free
So far the retailers I have checked (with Maxamet in stock, fresh or stale) all confirmed that they are still pinned... I would really love to have a go with Maxamet when I can take good care of it, esp the lock interface
Re: Manix2 lwt Still Pinned
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:26 pm
by ladybug93
mtb wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 5:50 pm
GarageBoy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 5:45 am
Any update to the Maxamet one? I guess I could get a pinned one and just use compressed air and oil to keep the pivot rust free
So far the retailers I have checked (with Maxamet in stock, fresh or stale) all confirmed that they are still pinned... I would really love to have a go with Maxamet when I can take good care of it, esp the lock interface
based on what sal has said repeatedly about dealing with maxamet, i'm not sure we'll see it much more. i'm honestly kind of surprised it hasn't been discontinued.
Re: Manix2 lwt Still Pinned
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:08 pm
by mtb
ladybug93 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 6:26 pm
mtb wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 5:50 pm
GarageBoy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 5:45 am
Any update to the Maxamet one? I guess I could get a pinned one and just use compressed air and oil to keep the pivot rust free
So far the retailers I have checked (with Maxamet in stock, fresh or stale) all confirmed that they are still pinned... I would really love to have a go with Maxamet when I can take good care of it, esp the lock interface
based on what sal has said repeatedly about dealing with maxamet, i'm not sure we'll see it much more. i'm honestly kind of surprised it hasn't been discontinued.
There is still hope!
Re: Manix2 lwt Still Pinned
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:25 am
by TheJim
I personally cannot wait for the release of the non pinned version. Im such a fan of the Manix 2 XL that I will probably end up getting a few of this LW Manix 2 as well. Also seems like there's a lot one can mod if one wants to. So that is great news as well.
Re: Manix2 lwt Still Pinned
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:54 am
by razorburn
Still patiently waiting for that Manix2 LW Magnacut. Converted all three of these recently.
Re: Manix2 lwt Still Pinned
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:02 am
by ladybug93
razorburn wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:54 am
Still patiently waiting for that Manix2 LW Magnacut. Converted all three of these recently.
great job! that makes me want to convert mine, but i'm nervous about messing up a good knife.
Re: Manix2 lwt Still Pinned
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:46 am
by attila
ladybug93 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:02 am
razorburn wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:54 am
Still patiently waiting for that Manix2 LW Magnacut. Converted all three of these recently.
great job! that makes me want to convert mine, but i'm nervous about messing up a good knife.
I was nervous at first as well, but it’s not bad to do the conversion if you’re careful:
https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/man ... t-20547888
Keep in mind that I’m not the only one who posted how I did it. There are a couple of other tutorials on BF.
The hardware I used is this:
https://usaknifemaker.com/pivot-barrel- ... bh-ss.html
Since doing my conversion, I wanted less tall screw heads than the T8 clip screws I used, but I found that the 2-56x1/4” T6 screws were too long. I filed/sanded them down to something <3/16” to allow them to tighten properly. Now, the screw heads are much closer to flush with the FRCP, about how the original rivet heads were, but I now need 2 torx drivers for disassembly.
Re: Manix2 lwt Still Pinned
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2022 4:07 pm
by IowaGeologist
Wartstein wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 2:58 am
ladybug93 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:17 pm
i'm a longtime proponent of the m2lw and i've been waiting a long time for spyderco to change the pins to screws. after finally getting a g10 manix and customizing it though, i'm far less likely to buy more of the lw version. i enjoy the ability to customize the
g10 version and the action is a lot better. i still like the lw and will absolutely be getting the magnacut m2lw salt when it's released, whether it is pinned or not, but i'd still prefer the magnacut and spy27 versions to be released in g10.
I would guess that statistically the G10 Manixes have "better" action (like in more "drop shutty") than the FRCP versions indeed - but I figure just by tendency, not as a "rule" - ?
At least I can recall one or two comparisons done by folks who had an LW and a G10 Manix, and a pro of the
LW they pointed out was actually the smoother action of the LW - and two of the three Manix LW I owned / own have perfect action..
This is not a "fanboyish" defence of the LW by any means - I just think that there are a lot of pieces out there with perfect action too (though I personally would not need a totally free falling action on a Manix -. or even prefer an a bit "stiffer" one. This is probably due to the ways I usually close a CBBL: Either by pulling the locktab just with the thumb and guide the blade to close with the index finger in the opening hole, or let the choil drop on my middle finger with a little wrist flick (like people do with a backlock (but then on the index finger))
I don't have a great sample size to go from, but I have a screw version LW (all black BD1N) and a G10 version (Rex 45) and the action on the LW is noticeably better. The exact opposite of my Para 3 experience. It's funny to see others have the same experience.
Re: Manix2 lwt Still Pinned
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:39 pm
by BugBite84
Just ordered a couple Manix 2 LWTs BD1N versions a couple weeks ago from DLT trading and they are screw construction, I absolutely love them so far, like everyone else is saying I can’t wait until all the other steels become screw construction.
Re: Manix2 lwt Still Pinned
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:56 pm
by Bolster
I'm guessing that past MxLWs that were pinned and now out of production, will never be seen in screw construction? I can't imagine Spyderco going back and re-issuing previous-but-no-longer-avail pinned MxLWs in screw construction.
Yeah, much as I'd like a Maxamet LW, I'd definitely want screw construction for that.
The thing that keeps me from attempting a screw changeover (aside from time) is the fear of rivets spinning and melting the FRCP. As well as other unforeseen mistakes I'm prone to make.
Re: Manix2 lwt Still Pinned
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:14 pm
by IowaGeologist
razorburn wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:54 am
Still patiently waiting for that Manix2 LW Magnacut. Converted all three of these recently.
Looks good. If I remember from the other forum, you're the one that made custom washers for this right?
Re: Manix2 lwt Still Pinned
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:02 pm
by RustyIron
Bolster wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:56 pm
I can't imagine Spyderco going back and re-issuing previous-but-no-longer-avail pinned MxLWs in screw construction.
This time next year there will be an entire thread on "Sal! The riveted construction was GREAT! Please bring back a sprint run of riveted Manixes!"
Bolster wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:56 pm
fear of rivets spinning and melting the FRCP. As well as other unforeseen mistakes I'm prone to make.
Clearly, you've been down this road before. Yeah, rivets can spin. Luckily, the alignment of the parts isn't dependent on the rivets. But your'e right--if you don't have a good reason to do otherwise, leave the knife intact.
Re: Manix2 lwt Still Pinned
Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:01 pm
by Bolster
RustyIron wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:02 pm
Bolster wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:56 pm
I can't imagine Spyderco going back and re-issuing previous-but-no-longer-avail pinned MxLWs in screw construction.
This time next year there will be an entire thread on "Sal! The riveted construction was GREAT! Please bring back a sprint run of riveted Manixes!"
LOL, so true. I actually prefer pinned for a backpacking knife. One less thing--well, several fewer things-- to get loose, get lost, or go wrong while in the back-country.
Re: Manix2 lwt Still Pinned
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 4:09 am
by Senfkarte
RustyIron wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:02 pm
Bolster wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:56 pm
I can't imagine Spyderco going back and re-issuing previous-but-no-longer-avail pinned MxLWs in screw construction.
This time next year there will be an entire thread on "Sal! The riveted construction was GREAT! Please bring back a sprint run of riveted Manixes!"
I'm not so sure this will happen. Has this request ever been made for other models?
Re: Manix2 lwt Still Pinned
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 4:19 am
by jwbnyc
There are some of us who wouldn’t mind some pinned models.
We are decidedly in the minority.
Re: Manix2 lwt Still Pinned
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:28 am
by razorburn
IowaGeologist wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:14 pm
razorburn wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:54 am
Still patiently waiting for that Manix2 LW Magnacut. Converted all three of these recently.
Looks good. If I remember from the other forum, you're the one that made custom washers for this right?
Yes, over on Bladeforums I posted how I converted my Manix's to screw conversion with custom stainless steel washers on my lathe.
Re: Manix2 lwt Still Pinned
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:04 am
by JRinFL
jwbnyc wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 4:19 am
There are some of us who wouldn’t mind some pinned models.
We are decidedly in the minority.
Yes, some of the Japanese models where aesthetically superior when pinned.
But, as someone else mentioned prior, these LWs are riveted and not pinned.
Re: Manix2 lwt Still Pinned
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:02 pm
by IowaGeologist
razorburn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:28 am
IowaGeologist wrote: ↑Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:14 pm
razorburn wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:54 am
Still patiently waiting for that Manix2 LW Magnacut. Converted all three of these recently.
Looks good. If I remember from the other forum, you're the one that made custom washers for this right?
Yes, over on Bladeforums I posted how I converted my Manix's to screw conversion with custom stainless steel washers on my lathe.
Thought so. Appreciate all of your writeups on the conversion. I'll take a stab at it here soon.
Re: Manix2 lwt Still Pinned
Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2022 5:57 pm
by Bolster
JRinFL wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:04 am
But, as someone else mentioned prior, these LWs are riveted and not pinned.
The difference being...? A rivet has more of a mushroomed head than a pin?
Re: Manix2 lwt Still Pinned
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:06 am
by IowaGeologist
I took the plunge and did my SPY 27 LW. Not going to lie, I love tinkering, but this was a pain in the ***. Not sure how people can do it without a drill press. Started with a Dremmel and took out a chunk of scale doing the rivet near the pivot before a switched to the drill press. Went much better but still wasn't an easy process. Happy it's all done now, well, this knife at least. I have a Maxamet on deck that hopefully will go smoother.
As you can see in one of the disassembled pictures, the action was a mess on the inside. Very happy they're switching to screwed construction for the Lightweight. Should have been that way from the start in my opinion.
Overall, I'm happy with how it turned out, outside of a few chunks out of the FRCP. Fingers crossed for the Maxamet.