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Re: We need more Millie’s

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:48 am
by Michael Janich
Dear Ranger Jon:

Welcome to the Spyderco Forum.

Stay safe,

Mike

Re: We need more Millie’s

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:59 am
by steelcity16
blueblur wrote:
Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:15 pm
Yes, we definitely need more Millie’s. I’d love to have one in 4V, especially in the St. Nicks flavor, but I think we’re also way past due a CQI Cruwear version and of course, I’d love to see one in Magna cut. A micarta Cruwear version would be a huge hit as well.

There is definitely a St. Nick's one coming. When that will be is anyone's guess. Their Chief was supposed to drop back in July...so that isn't too reassuring

Re: We need more Millie’s

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:07 am
by FK
My first Military was in the late 1990's in CPM 440V, had 3 of them including the Spyderco Forum 2000 special with inlayed MOP bug in the G-10. Foolishly sold them off in favor of Sebenza. Quickly became tired of thumb shredding pins in blade for opening.

Presently have nice collection of early models as well as CQI steel variations.
I agree the C36 is one of the Spyderco classic models and I will add to modest collection when a new run is produced.
Please no compression lock,,, retain the classic liner lock we all enjoy.

Regards,
FK

Re: We need more Millie’s

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:07 am
by kennethsime
Absolutely. I can’t wait for a Crucarta Military.

Re: We need more Millie’s

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:25 am
by Wartstein
Admittedly I had only one single Millie. A "basic" S30V one, but with custom zirikote wood scales.

I´ll probably forever regret that I sold it eventually.
Reason was, that I generally try to keep my collection (= all users) to 10 pieces at each point in time, so that I really get to use each knife, and also have funds for buying and trying other/new models.
Now back then I decided that my Enduras did all for me that the Millie could, but have some - for me - advantages over it:
Shorter in pocket, a bit lighter, FRN, tip up carry and backlock (nowadays the linerlock has become my favorite just in operation, this was not the case back then. (And overall the backlock is still my fav.))

But still: The Endura is great in its own way, but not a Millie, and I really want to get another one (and never part with it again... :smiling-hearts :beaming-face ) eventually.
Micarta and a nice tool steel would be my favorite Millie combo, but as discussed in other threads: Micarta would probably also mean full liners, which would take one of the nice Millie-features away: The light weight.

Re: We need more Millie’s

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:43 am
by FFG45
I would love to see a DLC coated, completely blacked out hardware, black or even Jade G10 handled K390 Millie. Sign me up please!

Re: We need more Millie’s

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:48 am
by FK
I agree, a full liner both sides to accommodate the micarta would be a backwards step in design.

Regards,
FK

Re: We need more Millie’s

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:48 am
by James Y
I would like one in all-black and S45VN blade steel, instead of the current S30V. Although I do like S30V, I already have enough blades in that steel. Or better yet, in Magnacut, especially if the price isn’t raised significantly over what it is now. I’ll add that I hope for the same with the Native Chief. But I don’t know when or if that will ever happen.

Jim

Re: We need more Millie’s

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:53 am
by kadinh
I dont currently have any millie models, but I agree they need more attention and that I am a huge fan of them.

Re: We need more Millie’s

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:55 am
by Burton Knut
I’d have a fleet of Millies if they weren’t liner locks. I keep hoping this whole Millie2 comp lock idea gets some traction, but for now I’ll stick with my Native Chiefs and Police 4s.

Re: We need more Millie’s

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:16 am
by Nuh Nups
Burton Knut wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:55 am
I’d have a fleet of Millies if they weren’t liner locks. I keep hoping this whole Millie2 comp lock idea gets some traction, but for now I’ll stick with my Native Chiefs and Police 4s.
I have to ask; have you ever tried one? I was skeptical at first, just because I’ve tried liner locks from a couple of other brands and I didn’t like them. Once I picked up a Military, I realized it’s completely different. My only regret is not trying one sooner.

Re: We need more Millie’s

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:26 am
by Evil D
The liner lock isn't my favorite, but I'm extremely skeptical about a Military with a compression lock. We've had this debate soooooo many times, I guess any Military discussion ultimately boils down to this.

Re: We need more Millie’s

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:44 am
by steelcity16
FK wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:48 am
I agree, a full liner both sides to accommodate the micarta would be a backwards step in design.

Regards,
FK

I disagree. You just have to consider it as a separate and distinct model. You may prefer the original, but MANY will be more than ok with the liners if it means they get a Cru-carta Military.

I personally think the Cru-carta PM2 was a major upgrade with the liners. It's the only PM2 I own and the only one I care to own.

I'd also be all in on Cru-carta Endelas, Enduras, and Delicas with liners even though I love my FRN versions of those models. I'd carry them all on different occasions.

Nothing wrong with a beefier knife paired with a tough steel and rugged scale material. Makes a lot of sense actually.

Re: We need more Millie’s

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:47 am
by Burton Knut
Nuh Nups wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:16 am
Burton Knut wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:55 am
I’d have a fleet of Millies if they weren’t liner locks. I keep hoping this whole Millie2 comp lock idea gets some traction, but for now I’ll stick with my Native Chiefs and Police 4s.
I have to ask; have you ever tried one? I was skeptical at first, just because I’ve tried liner locks from a couple of other brands and I didn’t like them. Once I picked up a Military, I realized it’s completely different. My only regret is not trying one sooner.
I have tried a couple, mostly because of all the fans on here, but for me it was still “just a liner lock” and I turned around and sold both within a couple days of getting them.

What’s the concern with having a compression lock on the Millie? Honestly I’d try a back lock (but at that size it might get ergonomically awkward) or a CBBL (if that’s even possible in the design.) I’m in for anything except liner/frame locks.

Re: We need more Millie’s

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:16 pm
by Nuh Nups
Burton Knut wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:47 am
Nuh Nups wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:16 am
Burton Knut wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:55 am
I’d have a fleet of Millies if they weren’t liner locks. I keep hoping this whole Millie2 comp lock idea gets some traction, but for now I’ll stick with my Native Chiefs and Police 4s.
I have to ask; have you ever tried one? I was skeptical at first, just because I’ve tried liner locks from a couple of other brands and I didn’t like them. Once I picked up a Military, I realized it’s completely different. My only regret is not trying one sooner.
I have tried a couple, mostly because of all the fans on here, but for me it was still “just a liner lock” and I turned around and sold both within a couple days of getting them.

What’s the concern with having a compression lock on the Millie? Honestly I’d try a back lock (but at that size it might get ergonomically awkward) or a CBBL (if that’s even possible in the design.) I’m in for anything except liner/frame locks.
I’m sure others will chime in but one reason I like the current version is how well it works while I’m wearing work gloves. A back lock works for me too but a compression lock just doesn’t work as well for me when wearing gloves.

Glad to hear you’ve tried the Millie, even if it wasn’t your thing.

Re: We need more Millie’s

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 12:24 pm
by wrdwrght
I think we don’t need more Millies, at least in the sense most mean it.

I think what we need is a basic Millie that is always available. The recent Exclusive excess has undermined availability by clogging production schedules.

Then we need Spyderco to release new Millies from time to time, just to appease (and surprise) us afis (aka ambassadors…).

From what we afis say we want, let Spyderco judge what and how many units to release on a flash-batch scale.

On this scale, Spyderco should be able to gauge a match appropriate to the level of enthusiasm and thus avoid a financial loss (if not make a modest profit) what with a very brief time on the production line.

But afis will need to put up or shut up. Steels and scales du jour cost more in small runs.

Re: We need more Millie’s

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:39 pm
by bearfacedkiller
Burton Knut wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:47 am
Nuh Nups wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:16 am
Burton Knut wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:55 am
I’d have a fleet of Millies if they weren’t liner locks. I keep hoping this whole Millie2 comp lock idea gets some traction, but for now I’ll stick with my Native Chiefs and Police 4s.
I have to ask; have you ever tried one? I was skeptical at first, just because I’ve tried liner locks from a couple of other brands and I didn’t like them. Once I picked up a Military, I realized it’s completely different. My only regret is not trying one sooner.
I have tried a couple...

...I turned around and sold both within a couple days of getting them.
I think we have different definitions of trying something.

Re: We need more Millie’s

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:46 pm
by FK
My problem with compression lock Military models is that it will take away from production capacity for the traditional CQI liner locks.

Regards,
FK

Re: We need more Millie’s

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:03 pm
by Archimedes
I have been carrying a Military on and off for 20 plus years. It wasn't until the last few years I decided that it really might be the perfect knife for me. Once I decided that I went out and got one in S110V even though I have several other Millies. I am pretty set on this being my main carry knife for years to come. That said I would also like to see some more Military's in some super stainless steels to try out.

Don't change the Military either, it is perfect as a light weight liner lock.

My point being I agree and make some more Millies!!!

Re: We need more Millie’s

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:31 pm
by Dazen
Sal, can you please please please tell us if we will see a new military in 2022?!