Native Chief Strength
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Native Chief Strength
I was researching the Native Chief and states that it has no liners ? Does this create flex in the handles or is it fine and just an attempt to reduce weight ? MG2
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Re: Native Chief Strength
Can not comment on the G10 version, but the CF version seems very sturdy. The metal back spacer may help.
But I think this is in the wrong section?
But I think this is in the wrong section?
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Yes major error not paying attention.
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Re: Native Chief Strength
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Re: Native Chief Strength
Manixguy@1994 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:13 pmI was researching the Native Chief and states that it has no liners ? Does this create flex in the handles or is it fine and just an attempt to reduce weight ? MG2
Admittedly never handled a Chief, but generally I would not be worried at all about linerless G10 fkexing, especially with a backlock (and by that closed back).
Even my rather thin and FRN handled linerless Pac Salt 1 has practically no flex (don t know about the "2").
And I had a Manix backlock for a very short time (linerless, thick G10): Extremely solid (and rigid) thing.
Top three going by pocket-time (update March 24):
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
Re: Native Chief Strength
G10 doesn't have much flex at all and the Chief feels rock solid IMO.
Re: Native Chief Strength
If you're concerned about the strength of linerless G-10, watch this video. Demko does their standard strength tests on a CS Air Lite, which has linerless G-10 with a much lighter handle construction than the Chief.
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Re: Native Chief Strength
Its fine.
The blade will often break or bend before the handle gives out. In fact in another video someone takes a linerless CS g10 handled knife with a pretty sturdy blade, stabs it into a tree and then puts sideways pressure on it. The handle flexed a good bit but then the blade broke.
The blade will often break or bend before the handle gives out. In fact in another video someone takes a linerless CS g10 handled knife with a pretty sturdy blade, stabs it into a tree and then puts sideways pressure on it. The handle flexed a good bit but then the blade broke.
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Re: Native Chief Strength
That coldsteel is a pretty nice knife, was not aware of this model.
But just for people who are not really into this: While I do believe that G10 is a bit more rigid than FRN when it comes to flex (FRN for me is "stronger" in other regards):
Still don´t take the thin, rather flimsy grivory bugout handle as reference for a solid, linerless Spyderco backlock FRN handle. Those are absolutely strong enough and not "flexy".
Top three going by pocket-time (update March 24):
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
Re: Native Chief Strength
My thoughts exactly. Never second guess anything I've cut with either of mine. Great knife, glad I decided to give it a try!
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Re: Native Chief Strength
As a general rule, G10 scales do not need steel liners.
Re: Native Chief Strength
Only time I notice the chief flex is if I am cutting a big block of cheese, more me pinching the handle and get some flex. I have yet to notice the flex outside of kitchen testing. My biggest concern would be damaging the main hinge area in the g10 from improper use, my chief is still to new for me to say if being linerless is a issue. Definitely like the linerless design price tag, chief is a steal right now.
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Re: Native Chief Strength
I have one from 2019.
Linerless G10 is very solid, you are not going to break the handle, the blade would snap at plunge line, or somewhere else.
If you are not using your knife as a prybar, Native Chief is a very solid knife.
Linerless G10 is very solid, you are not going to break the handle, the blade would snap at plunge line, or somewhere else.
If you are not using your knife as a prybar, Native Chief is a very solid knife.
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Re: Native Chief Strength
In lateral force I think the blade would snap first, vertical force (edge on) you'd lose your grip long before the lock, handle, or blade failed.
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Re: Native Chief Strength
I've never noticed any flex with my Rex 45 Chief. However my Pacific Salt 2 has a lot of handle flex but it hasn't been an issue.
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