Brittle clips on Salt models?
Brittle clips on Salt models?
I recently snagged a machine with my native at work & bent the clip... No big deal right? Just bend it back like you always do, right? Nope -- it snapped!
After emailing a CSR, I was surprised & disappointed to read that they were "sorry that I was having trouble" but only said to buy another clip kit...
Has anyone else experienced uncharacteristic clip failure with their salt versions? Where mine actually broke, it looks like cast steel (rough like how aluminum appears in a break, but the clip is still magnetic)...
Also, when did customer service stop standing behind clips? I've bent a half dozen 'normal' clips back into the proper position with no issues... But, this one failed spectacularly; and, my CSR didn't even acknowledge the failure - Needless to say, I'm disappointed with their stance on this issue
After emailing a CSR, I was surprised & disappointed to read that they were "sorry that I was having trouble" but only said to buy another clip kit...
Has anyone else experienced uncharacteristic clip failure with their salt versions? Where mine actually broke, it looks like cast steel (rough like how aluminum appears in a break, but the clip is still magnetic)...
Also, when did customer service stop standing behind clips? I've bent a half dozen 'normal' clips back into the proper position with no issues... But, this one failed spectacularly; and, my CSR didn't even acknowledge the failure - Needless to say, I'm disappointed with their stance on this issue
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Haven't had that issue despite carrying salts over a decade, but they do feel a little easier to flex.
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I haven't severely bent, or broke one yet, but if it happens, I wouldn't expect a free replacement.
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That's interesting it snapped. I do think maybe it's better the clip snaps than something happens to the inset nuts or frn. I wonder if it's intentional engineering. There are times when you'll intentionally take damage one place in a design to reduce or prevent it elsewhere (when car bumpers were made to take damage, they were designed like that)
I have a Dfly salt and the barrel style ones and haven't had the problem. I don't think I've caught any of them very hard, however.
I have a Dfly salt and the barrel style ones and haven't had the problem. I don't think I've caught any of them very hard, however.
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I just ordered a few clips today to replace some missing ones. Never had an issue with the Salt clips, but I have bent a number of stainless Endela/Endura/Delica ones when they catch on things.
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Yes, it happened to me. I snagged the clip on my Caribbean and it fractured the clip. A kind forumite said he’d sent me a replacement titanium clip, but it never showed up. I replaced the broken clip with a stainless spoon clip that I had stripped the paint from and it works great. I think the stainless clips are stronger and less brittle than their same-size titanium counterparts. The titanium is more resistant to corrosion.jsholli wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:30 pmI recently snagged a machine with my native at work & bent the clip... No big deal right? Just bend it back like you always do, right? Nope -- it snapped!
After emailing a CSR, I was surprised & disappointed to read that they were "sorry that I was having trouble" but only said to buy another clip kit...
Has anyone else experienced uncharacteristic clip failure with their salt versions? Where mine actually broke, it looks like cast steel (rough like how aluminum appears in a break, but the clip is still magnetic)...
Also, when did customer service stop standing behind clips? I've bent a half dozen 'normal' clips back into the proper position with no issues... But, this one failed spectacularly; and, my CSR didn't even acknowledge the failure - Needless to say, I'm disappointed with their stance on this issue
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No problems with my (just two so far...) Salt models: Pac Salt 1, Salt 2 ffg.
But perhaps there are differences between Seki-, Golden- and Taichung- Salt clips??
But perhaps there are differences between Seki-, Golden- and Taichung- Salt clips??
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- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
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The only clip I broke was on a non-salt model.
I think its just random. I also think the shape of the clip has a lot more to do with it than the clip being titanium vs steel.
I think its just random. I also think the shape of the clip has a lot more to do with it than the clip being titanium vs steel.
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I'm pretty sure these clips are titanium, at least newer Salt models are?
I've bent a few and when you try to bend them back they do snap sometimes depending on how car they initially bent.
Also consider, a clip by design should be weak enough to bend and or break, opposed to ripping out the screw threads or damaging the knife itself. A clip is much easier and cheaper to fix or replace.
I've bent a few and when you try to bend them back they do snap sometimes depending on how car they initially bent.
Also consider, a clip by design should be weak enough to bend and or break, opposed to ripping out the screw threads or damaging the knife itself. A clip is much easier and cheaper to fix or replace.
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I’ve bent my Caribbean clip to the point of uselessness, mostly because it’s my work companion. But I’ve never broken a clip on any knife.
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I broke an aftermarket titanium clip while trying to make an adjustment. I also twisted a wire clip after a dog leash got caught under it. It's part of the reason I no longer carry clipped to my pocket.
If you work in an area where snags are frequent, you might want to try carrying in the waistband, back pocket, or just dropped into the pocket.
If you work in an area where snags are frequent, you might want to try carrying in the waistband, back pocket, or just dropped into the pocket.
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This reminded me, a couple months ago my son snagged the clip on his Native 5 on a table at work and snapped the clip clean off leaving only the mounting pad left screwed to the handle. What's amazing to me is how this stuff happens without just yanking the knife out of your pocket instead of breaking the clip off.
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These things happen. I don’t think it justifies a warranty replacement or the disappointment with your experience. But that’s just me.
To me it is akin to dropping your knife, dinging your scales or blade, and asking for a replacement.
To me it is akin to dropping your knife, dinging your scales or blade, and asking for a replacement.
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Re: Brittle clips on Salt models?
Titanium work hardens easily. It doesn’t like being bent back and forth.
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Aren't only the Seki made Salts that are titanium?
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I thought the caribbeans clip was also titanium.tonijedi wrote:Aren't only the Seki made Salts that are titanium?
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You are right. The description on Spyderco's website reads: "while a reversible titanium hourglass clip offers convenient left or right-side tip-up carry."VooDooChild wrote: ↑Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:57 pmI thought the caribbeans clip was also titanium.tonijedi wrote:Aren't only the Seki made Salts that are titanium?
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AFAIK all salt clips are titanium and titanium don't like to be bending back and forth too much. Just like Darby said. If your bent it 90 deg. in both ways more than once, it used to break Personaly, I like Spyderco titanium hourglass clips. They have the "right " spring feel to me. Not too tight, not too weak. Easy in and out of pocket. Don't wiggle side to side, like wire clips do.
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Thanks for the comments and links everyone. My Ti replacement is in the mail, but I still am bummed since it broke so easily after doing the same thing (reshaping the clip) with so many other models in the past...