S35vn sharpening?
S35vn sharpening?
Ok since I am stuck with receiving a S35vn knife and have never messed with that S30-45vn series
What’s the best way to sharpen toothy or polished edge?
Is it more like sharpening BD1N or a crew wear?
What’s the best way to sharpen toothy or polished edge?
Is it more like sharpening BD1N or a crew wear?
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Re: S35vn sharpening?
Sharpmaker medium rods for a coarse edge for me. I prefer toothy edges.
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Re: S35vn sharpening?
Depends on what you're cutting and what you really prefer. I've sharpened knives in those steels down to the UF stone, but I've also sharpened them and left them toothy off of 300-600 grit finishes as well. For my line of work, I always prefer toothy edges so the edge will still grab material instead of sliding off with a higher grit finish, once it loses that initial bite.
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What do you mean by you're "stuck with receiving a S35VN knife"? I think it's a great steel. I have my S35VN Native 5 LW on me today. Love the edge it takes
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Ahhh...the crazy ordeal thread. I missed where they said they were getting the S35VN knife
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PM me. I like the steel and will take it off your hands, no charge!
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Re: S35vn sharpening?
Just like SG88, I stop at the medium rods on the Sharpmaker for S30V. For S35VN, I'd use the same process I use for S30V.
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Re: S35vn sharpening?
Depends on personal preference, really. I would go to a 3000 grit stone and finish deburring with a few swipes on a smooth leather strop with 1 micron diamond. That's my personal favorite. For more tooth, stop at the 1000 grit stone, with the same strop to finish deburring. I don't really like to go with a much lower grit than that.
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I hand sharpened an S35VN Inkosi Insingo yesterday which I used to cut leather for a few EDC pocket organizers and about ten knife pocket sheaths on a bamboo cutting board.
I decided against using diamond plates, since CRK recommends the Spyderco Sharpmaker and their heat treat is known to be on the softer side.
I raised a burr on the Spyderco Medium stone on both sides, then raised the burr twice on both sides with the UF.
Now, the burr in every case was very fine, but it was there.
Finished with very light stropping strokes on the UF and finally stropped with 1 micron and 1/2 micron leather strops, ten times per side.
I wasn't trying to polish the edge, my goal was to completely remove the burr and then it is good to go.
I think it all took about five minutes.
Usually I use soapy water on the stones, but this time, because I was doing just this one knife I used them dry.
Went back to my leathercraft project and sure enough, it was cutting cow hide leather cleanly with only a single stroke again.
I decided against using diamond plates, since CRK recommends the Spyderco Sharpmaker and their heat treat is known to be on the softer side.
I raised a burr on the Spyderco Medium stone on both sides, then raised the burr twice on both sides with the UF.
Now, the burr in every case was very fine, but it was there.
Finished with very light stropping strokes on the UF and finally stropped with 1 micron and 1/2 micron leather strops, ten times per side.
I wasn't trying to polish the edge, my goal was to completely remove the burr and then it is good to go.
I think it all took about five minutes.
Usually I use soapy water on the stones, but this time, because I was doing just this one knife I used them dry.
Went back to my leathercraft project and sure enough, it was cutting cow hide leather cleanly with only a single stroke again.
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Just use diamond stones. I'd recommend the DMT blue. 1 and done.
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I prefer S35vn to S30v. You are getting a great steel for any use.
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I'll take S45vn, finer carbides, nicer balance between the s35 and s30.
I've been running at 65rc, Total Elmax killer
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Deadboxhero wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:11 am
I'll take S45vn, finer carbides, nicer balance between the s35 and s30.
I've been running at 65rc, Total Elmax killer
Ah! Good to know. I defer to your expertise. Didn't know about the finer carbides (which SHOULD increase toughness, no?). I'll look a bit more kindly upon my S45VN samples.
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I'm about to dig into usingDeadboxhero wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:11 am
I'll take S45vn, finer carbides, nicer balance between the s35 and s30.
I've been running at 65rc, Total Elmax killer
My Sprint s45vn PM2.
Any experience Shawn with Spyderco 's heat treat of s45vn?
Not to derail the thread:
600 grit finish is refined enough for s35. Sharpmaker ceramic are fine but diamond/CBN work too
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Re: S35vn sharpening?
Not necessarily, there are other factors involved for raw toughness. However, finer carbides are better for edge stability which is perhaps what people are looking for at the edge more than just raw toughness.Bolster wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:48 pmDeadboxhero wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:11 am
I'll take S45vn, finer carbides, nicer balance between the s35 and s30.
I've been running at 65rc, Total Elmax killer
Ah! Good to know. I defer to your expertise. Didn't know about the finer carbides (which SHOULD increase toughness, no?). I'll look a bit more kindly upon my S45VN samples.
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I tested the hardness on the Pm2 S45vn at 61.5rcCycletroll wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:25 pmI'm about to dig into usingDeadboxhero wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:11 am
I'll take S45vn, finer carbides, nicer balance between the s35 and s30.
I've been running at 65rc, Total Elmax killer
My Sprint s45vn PM2.
Any experience Shawn with Spyderco 's heat treat of s45vn?
Not to derail the thread:
600 grit finish is refined enough for s35. Sharpmaker ceramic are fine but diamond/CBN work too
Which is harder than the S30v(60.1rc) and VG10 (59.0rc)
Should apex and deburr nicely, I'm more partial to Diamond/CBN for steels like this, cut all the phases flush with the apex.
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Awesome! Good to know! Curious to see what the perceptible difference is between the green diamond s45vn & the brown scale s35vn PM2's. Sharpening response, deburring, edge stability, etc.Deadboxhero wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:50 pmI tested the hardness on the Pm2 S45vn at 61.5rcCycletroll wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:25 pmI'm about to dig into usingDeadboxhero wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:11 am
I'll take S45vn, finer carbides, nicer balance between the s35 and s30.
I've been running at 65rc, Total Elmax killer
My Sprint s45vn PM2.
Any experience Shawn with Spyderco 's heat treat of s45vn?
Not to derail the thread:
600 grit finish is refined enough for s35. Sharpmaker ceramic are fine but diamond/CBN work too
Which is harder than the S30v(60.1rc) and VG10 (59.0rc)
Should apex and deburr nicely, I'm more partial to Diamond/CBN for steels like this, cut all the phases flush with the apex.
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That hardness for the S45VN PM2 makes me quite happy. Have had one in the rotation for a while, have yet to introduce it to stones though. Looking forward to reprofiling it and really seeing how it responds.Deadboxhero wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:50 pmI tested the hardness on the Pm2 S45vn at 61.5rcCycletroll wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:25 pmI'm about to dig into usingDeadboxhero wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:11 am
I'll take S45vn, finer carbides, nicer balance between the s35 and s30.
I've been running at 65rc, Total Elmax killer
My Sprint s45vn PM2.
Any experience Shawn with Spyderco 's heat treat of s45vn?
Not to derail the thread:
600 grit finish is refined enough for s35. Sharpmaker ceramic are fine but diamond/CBN work too
Which is harder than the S30v(60.1rc) and VG10 (59.0rc)
Should apex and deburr nicely, I'm more partial to Diamond/CBN for steels like this, cut all the phases flush with the apex.
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