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Re: Spyderco UTILITY Knife...

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:15 pm
by Bolster
Just thinking out loud...

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Re: Spyderco UTILITY Knife...

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:03 pm
by Bolster
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Re: Spyderco UTILITY Knife...

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:05 am
by Fireman
Perhaps a new blade shape that is proprietary to Spyderco or a universal one that can be interchangeable? Spyderco serrated edge? a hole or holes added to extend reach or make more secure. A hawkbill/straight edge combo would be desired as well.
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Re: Spyderco UTILITY Knife...

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:12 am
by Bill1170
Fireman wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:05 am
Perhaps a new blade shape that is proprietary to Spyderco or a universal one that can be interchangeable? Spyderco serrated edge? a hole or holes added to extend reach or make more secure. A hawkbill/straight edge combo would be desired as well.
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A blade straight on one end and hooked on the other would be handy at times, like a double+ended driver bit that can be easily flipped end for end to fit two types of fastener recess. I’d buy a Spyderco utility knife if it was OTF with onboard blade storage. Spyderedge would also be intriguing.

Re: Spyderco UTILITY Knife...

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:15 am
by z4vdBt
Or, kiss (keep it simple):

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Re: Spyderco UTILITY Knife...

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:02 am
by yablanowitz
I still think asking Spyderco for a utility knife is like asking Ferrari for a go-cart. We now return you to the fantasy in progress.

Re: Spyderco UTILITY Knife...

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:22 am
by bobnikon
Personally I find the arguments against the Spydie Ute very humorous. I see no reason Spyderco couldn't do an excellent quality and reasonably priced utility knife. We all sit here and sing the praises of 200-600 dollar knives and almost none of us "need" them. But that isn't the point. Take a look at the Chavez Chubb and tell me that it isn't a great piece that some people are obviously interested in. Well, the Spydie Ute doesn't need to sell to every knife owner and tradesperson. It only has to sell to those that want one. Sure it isn't a necessity, but neither is most of Spyderco's line. And yet I own way more of them then I probably should.

For my purposes, make it a dual blade. A K390 folding blade and a clever utility blade holder. I am in. Use the K390 for almost everything, but use the utility blade for the dirty crappy stuff you don't want to cut your sandwich or apple with the same blade 10 minutes later.

Just my opinion, but why judge what people want. A gas station knife will open your mail and cut your sandwich and do a **** of a lot of other things and a dollar store ute will open a box, but we aren't in this hobby for necessity.

Re: Spyderco UTILITY Knife...

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:32 am
by cody6268
I say have two options--one that's just a utility knife, the other blade/utility knife and perhaps some kind of pry tool. I'm looking at a Stanley model at the moment which has a bit driver and saw.

I have several models--two Gerber (EAB and Transit), a Lenox (with a small screwdriver/bottle opener tool that folds out the butt end), and a few different Kobalt (FRN with a button lock, and two aluminum handle lockbacks); as well as a snap-off Olfa (soon to have a straight blade put in). The Olfa is king for utility knife use. The problem is that most people who buy utility knives just want a cheap one , because they'll break or lose it. Utility knives are all cheap or nothing, and honestly, they mostly suck. I like the feel of the FRN Kobalt, and it's my favorite when we're talking utility knives that fit a standard blade (my choice being Lenox Gold or Carbide). But, the Lenox is fiddly, the Lenox is stiff, the EAB will not fit the Lenox Gold blades that well (hair's thickness too long), the Gerber Transit loosely fits blades (Granddad had actually bought it, and gave it to me when the lock got stuck). Oh, and did I mention the lock on the Transit jams constantly?


Compare the fact that there's almost ZERO utility knives over $20; to the knife market where there's lots of options at different price points--from the $5 Frost POS you'll find at a convenience store/junk shop; to $20-50 knives seen at most department stores, to what Spyderco and Benchmade make in the $100-200 range, to $400-450 Medfords & Randalls, through $1000 customs.

Re: Spyderco UTILITY Knife...

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:13 am
by steelcity16
This is a topic I think about quite a bit as I still use utility knives to break down cardboard despite always having a Spyderco in my pocket. A good blade will just sail through cardboard. I use the Stanley Carbide blades and they feel like I am slicing carboard with a laser and they stay sharp for an insane amount of time compared to any other blade I have used.

Three thoughts.

I'd love a Fixed blade bidirectional FRN knife utility. I haven't found a retractable knife where I love the ergonomics and the blade doesn't have any play. The fixed ones are good for someone like me who just wants to grab it from a toolbox drawer, use it for a bit, and then put it back.

Spyderedged Cricket and Dodo style blades would be sweet!!!

The other thing I think would be cool is if Spyderco did an XL version of the Utility knife and blade! There are really no XL versions that I can find aside from ones that are a little longer, but to me the main draw of these knives is being able to grip it very close to the blade tip and get a good angle on it when cutting. So the long blades defeat that purpose for me. I'd like to see it XL as in longer AND taller so it still retains the same properties, but gives you some extra blade and leverage for cutting extra thick cardboard or something tough and thick like horse stall mats. If Spyderco could execute on XL blades (same thickness as standard blades) and one good XL fixed knife and one great XL retractable knife, they could corner this market.

Re: Spyderco UTILITY Knife...

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:39 am
by curlyhairedboy
yablanowitz wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:00 am
I do have a serious question here. Why spend hundreds of dollars on a well-designed knife with great ergonomics, made from premium materials with a blade of carefully selected high-performance steel honed to a razor edge when you do all the real work with a 5 cent utility knife blade?
I wanted to respond to this, as it's often a criticism leveled against enthusiasts.

The cutting job determines the blade. Utility knives have a dedicated niche - cutting tasks that for various reasons would result in the swift destruction of the edge. This could be cutting against concrete, slicing into a bag of gravel/sand/garnet abrasive, fiberglass strapping, etc.

A utility blade is the wrong tool for many, many other cutting jobs. Slice an apple for lunch? Not going to cut it (literally). Baton some wood? Heck no.

For cardboard destruction? Honestly, an Opinel works way better than a utility blade despite having the same stock thickness.

Whether you're cutting sushi, cardboard, apples, or steel straps, there's no cutting job that's more "real work" than another. If your day is dominated by a single cutting task, specialization makes a lot of sense. If you've got a variety of cutting tasks, an EDC blade is easier to carry around than a knife roll of single-purpose tools.

Re: Spyderco UTILITY Knife...

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:47 am
by Abyss_Fish
I’d be for it if spyderco made the blades that went in it as well, even if they’re in just a basic carbon steel. I’ve used some reeeeallly shoddy utility blades.

Re: Spyderco UTILITY Knife...

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:05 pm
by Joshua J.
yablanowitz wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:02 am
I still think asking Spyderco for a utility knife is like asking Ferrari for a go-cart. We now return you to the fantasy in progress.
Making fancy go-carts happens to be the reason Ferrari exists:

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Re: Spyderco UTILITY Knife...

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:11 pm
by JD Spydo
Bolster wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:03 pm
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Interesting you would put that knife up with that Dodo handle on it. Because this lends well to the thread I'm currently trying to see how many of you all would like to have a larger scale "Dodo" model. I always thought that the original sized Dodo was a great utility knife but I do believe a larger sized Dodo would be awesome as a work/utility knife. Especially in full Spyderedge. That would be one EDC folder to help in no matter what type of work you do.

That Dodo handle alone would be great for even a standard designed utility knife. This thread is extremely timely and I do hope most of you will check out that thread I currently have wanting a larger Dodo model. That could indeed be the "Ultimate Utility Knife" IMO.

Re: Spyderco UTILITY Knife...

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:20 pm
by JRinFL
Sorry, more rain clouds: More Home Depot customer lose more utility knives (DeWalt, Milwaukee, Stanley, Husky, etc.) every day than Spyderco would sell in a year. Or two. It has to be cheap enough to lose regularly for it to sell, and I cannot see Spyderco wasting resources to go up against the well established companies that currently own this market.

But, would it be cool? Yep.

Re: Spyderco UTILITY Knife...

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:42 pm
by bbturbodad
yablanowitz wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:02 am
I still think asking Spyderco for a utility knife is like asking Ferrari for a go-cart. We now return you to the fantasy in progress.
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Re: Spyderco UTILITY Knife...

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:41 pm
by PeaceInOurTime
I'd likely buy one. Sometimes you need a blade capable of cutting against concrete and other super abrasive media. Why not have a Spyderco chassis?

I don't think the design or quality/cost needs to be catered towards the previously mentioned general "Home Depot" crowd who treat knives as disposable. We (people on/browsing knife forums/social media) would be buying plenty of these. Don't expect it to cost $10 -- it's still going to be a high quality handle with a blade holding mechanism. Hopefully Spyderco has already been designing their take on a utility knife :). I imagine many of the people who are against this idea right now would wind up with one.

I'm surprised this idea had received so much negativity. If Spyderco can make a successful balisong pen, why not a utility knife?? :confused:

Re: Spyderco UTILITY Knife...

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:42 pm
by GarageBoy
I wonder what steel the Lenox bimetal and dewalt carbide blades are

I like using tajima blades - cheap and in sk120(aka sk2) - they touch up nicely too

Re: Spyderco UTILITY Knife...

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:45 pm
by Bill1170
GarageBoy wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:42 pm
I wonder what steel the Lenox bimetal and dewalt carbide blades are

I like using tajima blades - cheap and in sk120(aka sk2) - they touch up nicely too
I believe the edge of the Lenox bimetal blades is high speed steel, probably M2. The back is low-carbon steel in a modestly soft state. I would imagine that carbide blades have a tungsten carbide edge, brazed to a plain steel back.

Re: Spyderco UTILITY Knife...

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:59 am
by VashHash
I'd prefer if the whole blade were replaceable and not rely on current utility blades. Then you could get full spyderco ergos and a full length edge. Some other companies currently offer similar designs and i think it's the best way to go. Spyderco could offer different blade shapes too.

All that said. My N5 SE lw is my utility knife. It's also the knife that I hand to people if they need to cut something. Serrations protect the edge from damage for the most part. S35VN seems tough enough for most task too. I don't cut on concrete or cement too often but again serrations would help save some of the edge and mitigate damage. When it gets dull I sharpen it. I bought that knife with the sole purpose of checking out S35VN in SE and I haven't been disappointed yet.

As far as available utility knives I like the Stanley 10-049. The blade is full length and replaceable. I've also sharpened it before.
https://www.stanleytools.com/products/h ... ife/10-049.

Re: Spyderco UTILITY Knife...

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:08 am
by u.w.
One (elephant in the room?) part of the discussion that I think would be relevant to marketing is the acronym that a Spydero Utility Knife would have... I am familiar with the adage of "there's no such thing as bad press", but can't imagine that being necessarily helpful or good...

I also side with many in that, any such offering(s) would probably need to be competitive in regards to pricing, and there's already A LOT (shown & named in this thread already) of excellent options out there...
VashHash wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:59 am
As far as available utility knives I like the Stanley 10-049. The blade is full length and replaceable. I've also sharpened it before.
https://www.stanleytools.com/products/h ... ife/10-049.
Yes! The Stanley 10-049 is one of my favorites. Though it seems not many are familiar with it. Locking, full blade edge length, replaceable... I find myself using it for a myriad of things. I've sharpened, or re-sharpened, mine numerous times.

My few "utility knives", 10-049 among them

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u.w.