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Are you betting on MagnaCut aka Larrinite? After all, it sounded like Sal and the gang ordered the material some time ago.

Or is it gonna be Rex-121?

Or Vanax?

15V?

Or Vanadis 8?


I'm putting my money on......









... Rex-121. MagnaCut will be MT32. :cool:

Norse Bog Iron with a serpent twist down the center.

JRinFL wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:22 am

Norse Bog Iron with a serpent twist down the center.

Larrin, why haven't I heard about this yet? What can you tell us about it?

I'd agree, probably not Magnacut.

I think Rex 121 and Vanax SC are pretty good guesses..... Or maybe I just want them to be good guesses.

I think it's going to be one of the steels already mentioned. It would be cool to have something in a high tungsten tool steel like RexAAA or REX95. There's also 2 steels that PSM Industries made T15HV and T42HV but I never seen it used anywhere.

After the Spy27 mule team was announced I was thinking about what other steels Spyderco might use in the mule. There were some sprints in Rex45 and S45VN, so I thought these were good candidates for the next mules. A bit later the S45VN mule was announced, so my guess is that MT30 will be Rex45.

I wold like to see MT30 with MagnaCut, but don’t think so, because of the excitement around the new steel.
Probably it will be the some Rex...

Jefke wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:21 pm

so my guess is that MT30 will be Rex45.

If it will be, why would they delay to announce it since they know how to make this steel right ?

Tally-ho wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:55 pm

Jefke wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:21 pm

so my guess is that MT30 will be Rex45.

If it will be, why would they delay to announce it since they know how to make this steel right ?

You never know maybe they decided to run the higher profit margin knives first. Then supply could have run low pushing off its release as a mule.

I would probably guess REX 121. Sal has already said that he was testing it in a Sage LW I believe.

My bet is either z-ware or Rex121

I think it will be REX 45.
My reasoning / guess for the delay: all the REX 45 Sprints were more important,
Native Chief had a long delay;
so, either steel availability issues or Golden factory running on full capacity for all the other models.

Joshcrutchley1 wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:05 pm

Tally-ho wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:55 pm

Jefke wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:21 pm

so my guess is that MT30 will be Rex45.

If it will be, why would they delay to announce it since they know how to make this steel right ?

You never know maybe they decided to run the higher profit margin knives first. Then supply could have run low pushing off its release as a mule.

Like Joshcrutchley1 says, they may have had issues with getting enough supplies. It took therm a fairly long time for all the Rex45 sprints to be delivered (though I can't speak from experience if it was longer than usual, but I think there were already 2 new reveals before most of them got delivered).
By that same logic, it might as well be Z-wear as the Z-wear/micarta Shaman was close to a year in the making.

If it's neither of these, then I'm guessing 15V (if I remember correctly they are working on a 15V folder designed by BBB?)

I forgot about SRS-13. Sal was asking for feedback about this steel in a mule team in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86149

So now I've named 4 candidate steels for MT30, yeah I have no clue :rolleyes: . I'll have to wait and see.

Joshcrutchley1 wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:53 am

I think it's going to be one of the steels already mentioned. It would be cool to have something in a high tungsten tool steel like RexAAA or REX95. There's also 2 steels that PSM Industries made T15HV and T42HV but I never seen it used anywhere.

T15HV seems fairly close to CPM-T15. Do you have any thoughts on how it might be different?

My metallurgy-fu isn't strong enough to even guess, really.

TomAiello wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:12 pm

T15HV seems fairly close to CPM-T15. Do you have any thoughts on how it might be different?

My metallurgy-fu isn't strong enough to even guess, really.

T15hv C-1.85/Cr-5/W-13/V-6.9/Co-5
Cpm-t15 C-1.6/Cr-4/W-12/V-4.9/Co-5
Maxamet C-2.5/Cr-4.8/W-13/V-6/Co-10
Z-Max C-2.0/Cr-4.0/W-10/V-5/Co-9

It has 2% higher vanadium and a .25% bump in carbon. I would imagine it would produce more vanadium carbide hence the H(igh)V(anadium)tag. In all honesty I don't know because the Cr also went up 1%. I do know after Cr gets too high you start to get vanadium enriched M7C3 instead of pure VC.
They're probably not far off from one another though. Z-max and Maxamet have more carbon so they might form more carbides.

K490 would be great for MT-30

15V

We've had CPM S35VN. Maybe this will finally be the long-delayed CPM S30V Mule! :p :D

The Meat man wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:45 pm

We've had CPM S35VN. Maybe this will finally be the long-delayed CPM S30V Mule! :p :D

I'm still waiting on that Gin-1 mule :D
There's a few ingot and PM steel pairs I'd like to try in a mule team like 154CM/CPM-154 and D2/CPM-D2.