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JRinFL wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:45 am

Nothing specific, but every few months I read about another battery technology that claims it can make batteries more efficient, or charge quicker, or can be made from non-toxic substances and yet none seem to have yet made it to market. I guess I am just being impatient.

That is very likely to be true and coming down the road. The Hybrid Car battery technology and R&D are likely to filter down to other types of batteries. They are putting real money behind it too so who knows.

Anybody use 21700 yet? I hear those guys have currently the highest energy density. None of my chargers will fit that batt. protected 26650 is the longest they will fit at the moment so I haven't gotten around to getting a light with 21700 although there are a few I am looking at.

JRinFL wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:45 am

Nothing specific, but every few months I read about another battery technology that claims it can make batteries more efficient, or charge quicker, or can be made from non-toxic substances and yet none seem to have yet made it to market. I guess I am just being impatient.

Thanks JRinFL, haven't kept up with technology these past couple years so would like to learn more. Your impatience is justified, I would dare to venture that corporate interest and monopoly are fiercely protectionist. Remember the guy that invented an engine that runs on water, or the one that runs on air?

chuck_roxas45 wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:24 pm

Anybody use 21700 yet? I hear those guys have currently the highest energy density. None of my chargers will fit that batt. protected 26650 is the longest they will fit at the moment so I haven't gotten around to getting a light with 21700 although there are a few I am looking at.

No experience with those, which lights are you looking at if you don't mind?

max808 wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:37 am

No experience with those, which lights are you looking at if you don't mind?

A couple of sofirns. The c8g and the c8f. I already have 2 C8's but the 18650 ones.

chuck_roxas45 wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:26 pm

max808 wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:37 am

No experience with those, which lights are you looking at if you don't mind?

A couple of sofirns. The c8g and the c8f. I already have 2 C8's but the 18650 ones.

Hadn't heard of that brand, looks well built and they currently have a big sale on their website. Are you looking to edc their 21700 format?

My SureFire 6P gets fed the standard SureFire 123A. My MaxLites get fed standard Duracell batteries. And, my Dewalt flashlights get fed Dewalt 18V and 20V MAX rechargeable lithium ion batteries.

All of my other "toys" are feasting on standard Duracells or rechargeable lithium ion batteries (Nikon, Dewalt, Black+Decker, EGO, etc.).

max808 wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:58 am

chuck_roxas45 wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:26 pm

max808 wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:37 am

No experience with those, which lights are you looking at if you don't mind?

A couple of sofirns. The c8g and the c8f. I already have 2 C8's but the 18650 ones.

Hadn't heard of that brand, looks well built and they currently have a big sale on their website. Are you looking to edc their 21700 format?

No edc for a 21700 light. I live in an area with a lot of dark spots and the distances I need to see are around 100 meters away. I edc a Lumintop FW3A. It's the smallest 18650 light I could get my hands on. Enough battery life for me. i only buy the budget light offerings. I find their build not too shabby and besides I probably buy new lights every couple of years.

chuck_roxas45 wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:24 pm

max808 wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:58 am

chuck_roxas45 wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:26 pm

max808 wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:37 am

No experience with those, which lights are you looking at if you don't mind?

A couple of sofirns. The c8g and the c8f. I already have 2 C8's but the 18650 ones.

Hadn't heard of that brand, looks well built and they currently have a big sale on their website. Are you looking to edc their 21700 format?

No edc for a 21700 light. I live in an area with a lot of dark spots and the distances I need to see are around 100 meters away. I edc a Lumintop FW3A. It's the smallest 18650 light I could get my hands on. Enough battery life for me. i only buy the budget light offerings. I find their build not too shabby and besides I probably buy new lights every couple of years.

Yeah, that 21700 for edc seems bulky, would love to find out how it rides owb though. Are you getting enough throw with that lumintop triple emitter at a 100 meters?

Good on you for supporting the industry and upgrading every other year. Personally I prefer to buy one premium flashlight in every battery type and over the years you build up some redundancy anyway.

Also flashlights make great gifts. :)

max808 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:30 am

Yeah, that 21700 for edc seems bulky, would love to find out how it rides owb though. Are you getting enough throw with that lumintop triple emitter at a 100 meters?

Good on you for supporting the industry and upgrading every other year. Personally I prefer to buy one premium flashlight in every battery type and over the years you build up some redundancy anyway.

Also flashlights make great gifts. :)

Not much throw with the lumintop but it puts out a turbo(maybe 20 seconds) of 2000 lumens. 1000 lumens is doable for at least a few minutes, so enough to scan the area. My throwers are for when I go out in the area at night.

I usually find that advances in emitter technology is enough to get me wanting to buy lights every few years.

chuck_roxas45 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:44 am

max808 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:30 am

Yeah, that 21700 for edc seems bulky, would love to find out how it rides owb though. Are you getting enough throw with that lumintop triple emitter at a 100 meters?

Good on you for supporting the industry and upgrading every other year. Personally I prefer to buy one premium flashlight in every battery type and over the years you build up some redundancy anyway.

Also flashlights make great gifts. :)

Not much throw with the lumintop but it puts out a turbo(maybe 20 seconds) of 2000 lumens. 1000 lumens is doable for at least a few minutes, so enough to scan the area. My throwers are for when I go out in the area at night.

I usually find that advances in emitter technology is enough to get me wanting to buy lights every few years.

You're right, the advances in emitters is impressive and it's often not easy to resist the urge. That's why I like fenix ultimate editions, they take a proven design and equip it with the latest led. That tk15ue is the outer limit of what I would carry on a belt but it will light up my dogs at a 100 yards like nobody's business. If it will do that for 50.000 hours I got a feeling it'll get passed on to the next generation...

I don’t like 18650 or AAA batteries, 21700 is my first choice for flashlights!