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With the "threat" level of a terrorist attack

raised to "orange", and if it were time for

that un-thinkable emergency, what Spydies &

other gear would you have on your person?

This is "at the moment" terror struck (yet!<img src="sad.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>) again?



Me : I have my SE Jester & Photon II on a

keyring ( dog tags are STILL there too!<img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>)



I'd later try to lay hands on my trusty

SE Cricket ( it's in storage ) then some

MRE's ( yuck! ) from the National Guard, along with one of those newer gas masks.

( meebee some Nam' jungle boots in black, if

they were to be had.<img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>)



What say the augurers?



AET <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>



"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me Liberty, or give me Death!" - Patrick Henry

Armalite AR-15, Glock 27 and a Spyderco... What else would I need?? <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>



Ben

"No good deed goes unpunished"

Edited by - Fozzy on 6/26/2003 6:03:41 PM

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Toilet paper. There are some things that just can't be solved with duct tape or bailing wire <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

Dan

I got these lines in my face from trying to straighten out the wrinkles in my life

Emerson CQC-7
Spydie Native
Sig P228
M4 Carbine
ALICE Pack w/assorted living items.

Sniper -- One Shot, One Kill Email: ST8PEN01@aol.com

Seriously though, I just inventoried the bailout bag I keep in my truck.

1 - Bottle Ozarka water
1 - Surefire G2 Nitrolon light
1 - Glock Field knife w/ rootsaw back
1 - small first aid kit
1 - disposable lighter
1 - small bottle sunblock
1 - small bottle insect repellent
50 ft para cord
5 - insect sting ampules
1 - small pack wet wipes
1 - Leatherman Crunch
2 - Cyalume sticks
1 - bandanna
1 - bottle iodine water tabs
2 - large trash bags
1 - 10x10 poly tarp (in original wrapper, compact)
small roll of wire
and yes... 1 roll toilet paper.


I got these lines in my face from trying to straighten out the wrinkles in my life

I keep a "micro-kit" in both My T.H.E.Wallet & T.H.E.Checkbook/billfold, with a <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>card in each CC pockets!!!<img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

BIG-TARGET>>>>>>"When young men seek to be like you, when lazy men resent you, when powerful men look over their shoulder at you, when cowardly men plot behind your back, when corrupt men wish you were gone and evil men want you dead...only then will you have done your share."---unknown

A first aid kit, one bottle of sealed water, a snack, and a Kershaw 1005 Survival Knife. Top knife... The 1005 sheath contains numerous survival items, like compass, and wet/dry matches. I work at the TNANG, and I have access to many other items. My current EDC is a BM 735BT. When I someday get a Military, then I will rotate between the two. RKBA!

Edited by - Alan2112 on 6/26/2003 11:57:16 PM

AET: I was EET(exercise eval team) in Korea. Just FYI,most of the masks sold out there are not serviceable. If you do buy one,make sure it's properly inspected. And don't bother at all unless you're going to keep it on your person. If you can't mask up in 9 seconds,it's too late.

Also,forget the Nam boots. The commercial grade ones are crap. Go w/the real mccoys:http://www.altama.com/militaryspecification.html . These are the only jungle boots I wear. Speedlaces rule!

Survival Pack? What is that?

I like the thing about toilet paper! But I don't really carry a survival pack-I don't really worry about that stuff. Haven't needed one in 52 years. Just my dull Endura! And a tank of gas in the truck in case I got to get out of dodge in a hurry, but than again that would be me and about 300,000 others too.

ken-
I fear no evil!!!

Actually I have 2 different set ups in case of attacks.
camo fanny pack for in a hurry.
2-compass
2-candles
1- mag fire starter w/ c shaped striker
3-MREs
2-belt clipped army issue canteen
10x10 tarp
1-roll of HD duct tape
1-<img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> user Delica
2-Mora knives thanks to VOX
50 ft para cord
1-AAA Mini Mag/spare bulbs & batteries
Small 1st aid kit-prescription meds-percodan , gauze, tape, suture kit, snake bite kit, bandaids.
1-EZE Lap key chain diamond sharpener.
2-bic lighters
2-boxes wax sealed wooden kitchen matches
1-sureshot fire starter
Camo gloves and head net
LWT camo poncho
water purification tabs-20
vial of iodine
small roll of orange survey tape
(MREs come w/toilet paper if you're careful)
P38 Mili issue can opener.
Victronox SAK
Leatherman Micra.
Yep all of that fitsin a fanny pack.
Firearm is a pesonal choice, but IMO if I had to didi in a hurry I'd grab my Remington 870 express w/18" slug barrel and pistol grip
Revolver would be a 686 Smith 357
extra ammo, buck shot and bird shot, S/D and food all rolled into 1.
Too sleepy to list the big kit tonite <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>. Ron

If you are looking for some good information on making your own survival kit(s) then get volumes 3,10,11 of the Woodsmaster Series( www.survival.com)

If you want information on a mini-kits then this is the site for you http://www.angelfire.com/il3/bobsplace/ .

BIG-TARGET>>>>>>"When young men seek to be like you, when lazy men resent you, when powerful men look over their shoulder at you, when cowardly men plot behind your back, when corrupt men wish you were gone and evil men want you dead...only then will you have done your share."---unknown

Edited by - Big-Target on 7/4/2003 8:39:16 PM

Interesting note about the toilet paper. Yet, in Changi (you know, the japanese island used as a prison during WWII) they (the prisoners, of course) used a bottle of water instead of toilet paper.
Now coming back to the survival pack, I'd put there my Ladybug and a Pulsar microlight attached to a ball chain around my neck, near the Mini Police. I'd pick my trusty old FRN Delicas (PE and SE) IWB. And a fixed blade (I have a Rambo II quite reliable clone) attached to my backpack. Just to backup the regular AK47 bayonette, which is no good, frankly speaking.
Firearms? AK-47, definitely. The older 7.62 mm model, not the NATO converted ones (5.54 mm). Maybe I'd try a Galil, I heard they are very good. But please no M-16, no offense fellows Americans, sorry. <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

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Oh, I forgoted a most important thing: a SAK, of course.

Edited by - dialex on 7/5/2003 5:24:01 AM

Dialex;
maybe you should consider a Czech or Hungarian AK-47. The Czech AK is a simpler design for easier maintainance. The Hungarian AK use polymers for the stock & grips, so you don't have to worry about the wood cracking or splntering from use/abuse.

BTW, the Galil is based on the AK design and it uses 5.56 NATO rounds. The same as the M-16!!<img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

BIG-TARGET>>>>>>"When young men seek to be like you, when lazy men resent you, when powerful men look over their shoulder at you, when cowardly men plot behind your back, when corrupt men wish you were gone and evil men want you dead...only then will you have done your share."---unknown

Edited by - Big-Target on 7/5/2003 6:41:01 AM

Don't have a kit, per say...Arc AAA and PE Milie on my person. I have a trauma bag and a MagLight in the trunk.

Dialex: actually,they haven't made AK-47's for quite some time. Since at lest the late 70's,I believe. The 7.62 model you're referring to is the AKM. Also,the current caliber is 5.45,which is smaller than the NATO 5.56(BTW,the 7.62 Soviet round had a shorter case than NATO,39mm vs 51mm).

Couple of interesting points. The AK was not a copy of the WW2 German MP43,the first assault rifle(name was coined by Hitler,FYI),but a totally different design. The '47' stands for it's first year of production,1947. And Kalishnakov(sp?) himself is not happy that the weapon was 'westernized' by converting it to the lighter caliber.

History Channel had a 'Tails of the Gun' eposode about AK's awhile back.

Intresting thread about choice of firarms to grab in an ememgency, I can see how some would feel more comfortable with an assault type rifle. I do have a SKS cowboy carbine stashed at a location I could get to in a hurry.
But my major concern would be feeding my family 1st.
Where I live I'm lucky, I don't have a large city close to worry much about attack.
Since 9/11 though I've kept my Ranger 4x4 loaded with 6 man tent, sleeping bags, 10 gallons of potable drinking water, 20 various MREs 2 jerry cans full of gas. hand crank come along.
This stays on or in my truck no matter what, no exceptions.
+ every concivable tool needed to make camp for atleast 1 week. Ron

I carry a basic set of emergency gear on my person, including a knife, multi-tool, first aid kit, flashlight, firestarter, compass, and various other items. You can get some *really* small and lightweight gear these days. Take a look at <a href="http://www.october.com/preparedness/">my personal emergency kit</a> for a good starting point.

My car contains a day pack stuffed with emergency gear and supplies on a larger and more detailed scale, including a fairly extensive first aid kit. There is also a five-gallon container of water.

Most of my preparations are oriented toward short-term survival. I do not really expect to be stuck without outside resources for more than a week at the worst.

Since knives and guns are of special interest here...

For knives: My EDC includes a Camillus CUDA Maxx Bowie and the car kit has a Becker BK9 Combat Bowie in it. My wife carries one of the Spyderco Ocelot prototypes as her EDC and keeps a Spyderco Mouse in her purse.

For firearms: My wife, who is better than me with a longarm, uses a Ruger Mini-14 with 30-round magazines and a 4-12x40 scope. She has a Taurus Tracker in .357 Magnum for backup. I use a pair of Taurus Raging Bull revolvers in .44 Magnum: one 6-1/2" barrel with a 2-7x scope for long-range work and one cut down to half-length for better handling up close.

--Bob Q

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To Big Target and Dynarider: thanks for the infos (especially those regarding the caliber). Actually, I'd go for the Romanian made AK-47. Those are the best, really <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> Dynarider, it is true that current ones are AKM (acronym for Modernized Kalashnikov Automatic Gun), but I used AK-47 because most people seem to be familiar with this term instead of AKM. There are a few variations made, like a slightly bigger machine gun with bigger magazine, either square (40 rounds) or cylindrical (a la Tommy gun), with 72 rounds. But my favorite is the PSL (Semi-automatic sniper rifle). 7.62 magnum shells, long barrel, ergonomic butt, effective hit up to 1200m (4000 ft.), it's a beauty. You can even fit a bayonette to the muzzle. And it's great for hunting too, you can easily provide food for your family.
Too bad I can't post a few pics, this forum feature is temporary out of order <img src="sad.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

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I keep all of my stuff in an old gasmask bag in my Jeep. It has:
-Notebook with 2 Pens
-Fisher space pen
-Princeton Tech Attitude
-Surefire G2
-Spyderco Rescue
-SAK Soldier (for tools)
-Benchmade 5W
-2 rolls medical tape
-bandaids
-gauze pads
-tourniquet
-tongue depressors
-2X clear occlusive drsgs
-steri-strips
-alcohol swabs
-betadine swabs
-antibiotic ointment
-Timex explorer watch (in case my Omega breaks <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> )
-Gerber multitool
-50 feet 550 paracord X 2 rolls
-kelly clamp
-EMT shears
-suture scissors
-20 bucks

Matt


Edited by - Jazzman on 7/7/2003 12:18:50 PM