ugaarguy wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:11 pm
Ankerson wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:02 pm
ugaarguy wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:41 pm
JD Spydo wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:22 pm
I still like Surefire because I like to support "Made In The U.S.A." companies. Also Surefire has dependability like few others I've used over the years. I had a couple of Fenix models at one time but they just weren't as durable as Surefire. Also Surefire's customer service is very similar to Spyderco's incredible customer service. They have been incredibly good to me over the years. Oh they are pricey but they are not a "Throw Away Item" at all. I've got one of Surefire's E2D Defender models that I've had for 8 years and it's still an awesome illumination tool.
The Cheaper flashlights I've heard consistently good stuff about are Fenix, Four Sevens and the LED Maglites. Most all of them are LED as of late. I also recommend to get a unit with rechargeable batteries. All of my Surefire models run off of "123 A" batteries and they are small and compact and recharge quickly. I've gotten all my rechargeable batteries and chargers from Surefire because I also find their accessories to be high quality as well.
Yeah I sound a little biased but it's just like when I made Spyderco my favorite knife company>> quality just wins out everytime with me especially when the companies have great customer service.
Suerfire doesn't make their own batteries and chargers. Surefire lost my business when everyone else in the industry blew right past them with single 18650 battery support. Surefire resisted rechargeables for years because they didn't want to cut into selling the SF branded Panasonic CR123A batteries. They still offer very few lights with 18650 compatibility. The batteries you have are voltage limited LiFePo chemistry which has limited capacity. When Surefire decides to quit resting on their laurels and optimize their entire lineup for standard 3.6 volt rechargeable lithium batteries, rather than ripping customers off, I'll pay attention to them again. The C2 I have was picked up in trade. It had been bored out to handle the wider 18650 battery, and cerakoted a color that I really liked. As long as there are P60 drop-ins that light can stay up to date.
123A or 18650 doesn't matter all that much in the smaller pocket sized lights...
Especally when using rechargeables.
My SF's use 123A's and my Streamlight PROTAC HL5-X uses 2x 18650's, but that's not pocket size so...
I also have the rechargeable 123A's along with a good supply of the SF 123A's..
They are just flashlights in the end, as long as they do the job and last and or can take a beating if they have to all is good.
Other than that it's not a big deal or anything to geek out on IMO..
There are much more interesting and much more complex things to worry about than a flashlight.
Then why don't you see yourself out of this thread and let those of with experience with a wide variety of lights help the OP? Surefire is great if you're Military or LE, need a light to compliment your carry handgun, or otherwise need a duty type flashlight. For general flashlight stuff, they suck. For some applications, quality of light emitted, lower modes that won't blind you, and the ability to use the light hands free are much more important than being able to kick the light down a flight of concrete stairs while you're chasing some teenager through the parking garage where you're the mall cop.
SF's can be used hands free without any problem so...
At least the ones I have can anyway.
General flashlight stuff is what exactly?
Must be some special new kinda of general flashlight stuff that is somehow different than it was for the past 60+ years. ROFL
I have been using flashlights for the better part of 50 years....
So what's your point?
Flashlights are not a new invention, they have been around for a very long time.
Someone might need to see something if it's too dark so they turn on the flashlight, it's not complicated. That's what I do anyway, same as I have for the better part of 50 years. Pretty simple and straight forward to turn on a flashlight if it's too dark. I mean I don't even have to think about it or get out the slide rule to figure out how to do it.
Or use a lighter if they don't have one.
Kinda like if the room is dark and you flip the light switch to turn on the lights...