Micarta Shaman 2nd Sprint Run
Re: Micarta Shaman 2nd Sprint Run
The mule is specifically stamped “Cruwear” whereas most (any I have seen) other Spyderco knives using Cruwear, will be stamped as “CPM-Cruwear”. I have to assume it’s not CPM-Cruwear.
Re: Micarta Shaman 2nd Sprint Run
Re: Micarta Shaman 2nd Sprint Run
Wartstein,
+1, Agree 100%.
Will take a PM2 before a Shaman any day.
CG
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As was explained to me: the mule was ingot Cruwear. CPM Cruwear is chemically the same steel, but goes through the cpm (crucible's particle metallurgy) process, which improves its performance significantly. PD1 goes through essentially the same process (Carpenter has a different name for it - micro melt??) so it has very similar performance to CPM Cruwear. So look at the PD1 mule to get an idea of performance for CPM Cruwear.Rutger wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:08 pmyes, mule is not cpm.
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Interesting. For some reason I thought all or most all tool steels spyderco used were cpm. Then, I remembered I once had a para 1 cpm d2 and d2 came in both varieties as well. Looked up the cruwear mule and saw something about HT issues with them and then remember the big stink about them and spyderco recalled and replaced them all. Guessing it was the cruwear mules?? Older you get more you forget cause have to make room for other more important stuff.JuPaul wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:05 pmAs was explained to me: the mule was ingot Cruwear. CPM Cruwear is chemically the same steel, but goes through the cpm (crucible's particle metallurgy) process, which improves its performance significantly. PD1 goes through essentially the same process (Carpenter has a different name for it - micro melt??) so it has very similar performance to CPM Cruwear. So look at the PD1 mule to get an idea of performance for CPM Cruwear.
Anyhow, looking forward to the 2nd run and that it's as successful as the first.
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Not sure why it will be referred to as a "sprint run" if it is essentially just another batch of the same knife. The letter I received implies that the sprint run is limited, unique, never-to-happen-again and, therefore, something of particular value (whatever the owner perceives that to be).
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This "sprint" gonna turn into marathon before it's done running. Too much gas in the tank and no brakes to stop it.Fynnister wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:15 amNot sure why it will be referred to as a "sprint run" if it is essentially just another batch of the same knife. The letter I received implies that the sprint run is limited, unique, never-to-happen-again and, therefore, something of particular value (whatever the owner perceives that to be).
I could see if they did a batch a year from now an issue. But, being that they're still running it's fine. Nobody but you complaining about SPYDERCO'S decision to make more knives.
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What would be the motivation to not want others who want it to be able to acquire it? Did you purchase it in order to profit or as an investment? Otherwise....a very strange take to not want others to get one.Fynnister wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:15 amNot sure why it will be referred to as a "sprint run" if it is essentially just another batch of the same knife. The letter I received implies that the sprint run is limited, unique, never-to-happen-again and, therefore, something of particular value (whatever the owner perceives that to be).
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GimmickSlash wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:54 am
This "sprint" gonna turn into marathon before it's done running. Too much gas in the tank and no brakes to stop it.
I could see if they did a batch a year from now an issue. But, being that they're still running it's fine. Nobody but you complaining about SPYDERCO'S decision to make more knives.
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It will still be a Sprint. Different steel=different knife.Fynnister wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:15 amNot sure why it will be referred to as a "sprint run" if it is essentially just another batch of the same knife. The letter I received implies that the sprint run is limited, unique, never-to-happen-again and, therefore, something of particular value (whatever the owner perceives that to be).
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Hi Fynnister,
What are you calling a Gimmick? And why?
sal
What are you calling a Gimmick? And why?
sal
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Re: Micarta Shaman 2nd Sprint Run
Fynnister wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:15 am
Not sure why it will be referred to as a "sprint run" if it is essentially just another batch of the same knife. The letter I received implies that the sprint run is limited, unique, never-to-happen-again and, therefore, something of particular value (whatever the owner perceives that to be).
Cruwear Micarta Shaman <> PD-1 Micarta Shaman. Just like a M390 PM2 <> 20CV PM2. The Cruwear run is done, never to be made again in that combination of CPM-Cruwear with Brown Micarta. If they make a new sprint run with PD1 and Brown Micarta or one with CPM-Cruwear and OD Green Micarta, those are different knives. If those are Sprint runs, they will only be made once, and so on.
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Sounds like a case of sour grapes to me.
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Now ^^THIS^^ makes sensesteelcity16 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:18 am
Cruwear Micarta Shaman <> PD-1 Micarta Shaman. Just like a M390 PM2 <> 20CV PM2. The Cruwear run is done, never to be made again in that combination of CPM-Cruwear with Brown Micarta. If they make a new sprint run with PD1 and Brown Micarta or one with CPM-Cruwear and OD Green Micarta, those are different knives. If those are Sprint runs, they will only be made once, and so on.
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Fynnister wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:57 amNow ^^THIS^^ makes sensesteelcity16 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:18 am
Cruwear Micarta Shaman <> PD-1 Micarta Shaman. Just like a M390 PM2 <> 20CV PM2. The Cruwear run is done, never to be made again in that combination of CPM-Cruwear with Brown Micarta. If they make a new sprint run with PD1 and Brown Micarta or one with CPM-Cruwear and OD Green Micarta, those are different knives. If those are Sprint runs, they will only be made once, and so on.
ps: As stated in other areas of the forum, I LOVE my Shaman Crucarta (and ALL of my Spyderco tools)
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Sounds like those who paid $300+ on the secondary market are hoping the scalping wasn’t in vain. I’m not the first to say. I hope the higher initial demand and happy speculators are worth souring long term customers.
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Thought you already understood that it wasn't gonna be another run of cruwear. But, rather a different steel.Fynnister wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:57 amNow ^^THIS^^ makes sensesteelcity16 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:18 am
Cruwear Micarta Shaman <> PD-1 Micarta Shaman. Just like a M390 PM2 <> 20CV PM2. The Cruwear run is done, never to be made again in that combination of CPM-Cruwear with Brown Micarta. If they make a new sprint run with PD1 and Brown Micarta or one with CPM-Cruwear and OD Green Micarta, those are different knives. If those are Sprint runs, they will only be made once, and so on.
Lack of reading anything other than the title I suppose is just the issue here and fail on your part.
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My brother placed pre-orders with multiple dealers and hasn’t heard from any of them. He’s bummed. What dealers have you seen offering them for sale?Larry_Mott wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:24 pmI guess you're referring to a specific dealer since the originalt thread has gone on for weeks, and i see them on a daily basis (just not from US dealers) also pictures pop up daily from end users who just got one, but what do i know. It'd be interesting to know if 1200 were/has been made and distributed or if it was a small/er run this time.
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Sounds like a sudden influx of flippers chiming in here, and I'm not going to lie...it's pissing me off. MANY members here, very deserving members missing out on this because of these kinds of dirtbags. Hoping long term members can't score one at a reasonable price...why??
15 's in 10 different steels
1 - Bradford Guardian 3 / Vanadis 4E Wharnie
1 - Monterey Bay Knives Slayback Flipper / ZDP 189
1 - CRK Small Sebenza 31/Macassar Ebony Inlays
1 - CRK Large Inkosi Insingo/ Black Micarta Inlays
1 - CRK Small Sebenza 31 Insingo/Magnacut
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1 - Bradford Guardian 3 / Vanadis 4E Wharnie
1 - Monterey Bay Knives Slayback Flipper / ZDP 189
1 - CRK Small Sebenza 31/Macassar Ebony Inlays
1 - CRK Large Inkosi Insingo/ Black Micarta Inlays
1 - CRK Small Sebenza 31 Insingo/Magnacut
-Rick
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Good point, and I agree. Anything that punishes the flipper/hoarder/gouger crowd is good for normal people. You have to be pretty low to buy just to flip on a release like this. It’s not how you make your money....you’re just screwing people intentionally for a few bucks. The fact that some on here actually seem to embrace the flipper side is somewhat baffling.TkoK83Spy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:13 pmSounds like a sudden influx of flippers chiming in here, and I'm not going to lie...it's pissing me off. MANY members here, very deserving members missing out on this because of these kinds of dirtbags. Hoping long term members can't score one at a reasonable price...why??