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Bohler-Uddenholm makes some great stainless steel.

According to their literature, they were the first ones to make stainless steel and we have had "stainless tool steel" for over 100 years. This seems to refute those who claim "tool and stainless steel are mutually exclusive in properties."

https://www.bohler.de/en/N695.php

https://www.voestalpine.com/blog/en/inn ... ool-steel/

Here is whom they claim invented stainless steel. Though in England there were people working on the basic concepts, and Krupp had people working on it.

" Max Mauermann
Austrian engineer and inventor of stainless steel
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Max Mauermann (born July 22, 1868 in Tarnowitz , † July 1, 1929 in Vienna ) was an Austrian engineer and inventor of stainless steel .

Max Mauermann came to Styria from Tarnowitz in Upper Silesia and since 1899 he has been part of the Bleckmann Stahlwerke (formerly Phoenix Stahlwerke ) laboratory in Mürzzuschlag (Austria), where he was soon appointed Laboratory Manager.

He developed there in numerous experiments in 1912, the first stainless steel and presented this product at the Vienna Adriatic Exhibition in 1913. Mauermann rose to become the director of Stahlwerke Bleckmann.

He, like so many inventors, was struck by the fate of not being able to enjoy the fame of his great invention carefree. A steel company in the Ruhr later also produced stainless steel. It came 1924 to a patent process, which won Mauermann in a first judgment. However, the fame and the profits were scrapped by the Ruhr Group.

The process subsequently developed into a year-long legal dispute beyond Max Mauermann's death. Only three days after his death, the first invention of stainless steel is expressly confirmed.

In 1955 Max-Mauermann-Gasse was named after him in Vienna's Favoriten .
Literature

Hans Jörg Köstler: Mauermann, Max. In: New German Biography (NDB). Volume 16, Duncker & Humblot, Berlin 1990, ISBN 3-428-00197-4 , p. 427 f. ( Digitized ).
H. Hampel: Mauermann, Max. In: Austrian Biographical Lexicon 1815-1950 (ÖBL). Volume 6, published by the Austrian Academy of Sciences, Vienna 1975, ISBN 3-7001-0128-7 , p. 155.

Web links

Entry to Max Mauermann in the Austria-Forum (in the AEIOU- Österreich-Lexikon )
Science Calendar: Portrait of the Day - "Max Mauermann" ( Memento of August 28, 2007 in the Internet Archive ) "


From:

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Mauermann

Here is an interesting site:

https://hunters-knives.co.uk/steel-info ... positions/
https://www.voestalpine.com/highperform ... /products/

Voestalpine owns Bohler-Uddenholm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voestalpi ... operations

Here is my question for you all:

I know on this forum most of us have discussed and understand that with high quality comes high cost and with low cost usually comes low quality, but, let's imagine there was a machine that could produce the best quality stainless steel knife at the lowest possible price.

If you were offered a knife with a six inch long Bohler-Uddenholm N695 stainless steel blade and a durable nylon-based polymer handle and sheath, and it only cost you 10 US dollars, would you purchase said knife and add it to your collection and for using, or would you even purchase several at that price, or, not?

And take this further: What cutting applications would you use something like that for?

6 inch N695 for $10, with good HT? I'm not that in to N690 / N695....they are not on my list of steels that I must have.

I'd buy it only if I really liked the knife profile a lot. That is how I decide to buy knives. It's the entire package. I buy knives for self defense and bushcrafting.

WHAT AM I LOOKING FOR? Primarily knives HEAT TREATED 61HRC - 63HRC+ AND/OR made from the steels of: 1V**, A11, CPM 3V, CPM 4V, CPM 10V, CPM M4**(COATED), CPM Rex 45, CPM S90V, CPM S110V, CPM S125V, CTS-XHP, D2(Bob Dozier**. Is this CPM-D2?), K390, M390/20CV/204P**, Maxamet, S7**(57HRC for 125ft/lbs toughness), PM A11, Rex 121, Vanadis 4E, Vanax Superclean, Z-WEAR, ZDP189.

The heat treatment makes a big difference, doesn't it Naperville?

The interesting this is this, with nanotechnology, you could have those machines that bond the atoms like carbon, iron, and chromium and others together in the patterns you want, without the need for bulk heat processes. The mechanical force replaces the heat.

I'm completely sold and have been for about 3 years now with my sacred, hallowed M390, C-36 Military model. I'm already anxious to try more of their blade steels. The N690 is also on my radar screen too. This is another thread where we need Brother LARRIN to chime in with his metallurgical wisdom :cool:

JD: Just as a hypothetical scenario, if we had machines that could assemble precision steel knives with atomic precision, at dirt-cheap costs, and you could have a knife made with any steel you want, in any shape, what would you pick?

SpyderEdgeForever wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:15 pm

JD: Just as a hypothetical scenario, if we had machines that could assemble precision steel knives with atomic precision, at dirt-cheap costs, and you could have a knife made with any steel you want, in any shape, what would you pick?

I'd like some Street Beat fixed blades from Spyderco in M390/20CV/204P, Vancron Superclean or 3V(Street Bowie). I'm not hard to please. I think those Perrin knife styles are awesome! (EDIT: Upgrade the steel on the Street Beat and Street Bowie!!!)

The fixed 3.5 to 5.5 inch market is ripe for knives made in excellent steels.


(EDIT: I like the Ronin 2 too and I'd like to see that in an excellent steel like M390/20CV/204P.)

SpyderEdgeForever wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:15 pm

JD: Just as a hypothetical scenario, if we had machines that could assemble precision steel knives with atomic precision, at dirt-cheap costs, and you could have a knife made with any steel you want, in any shape, what would you pick?

First and right off the top I would resurrect Spyderco's 2004 era TEMPERANCE 1 models in SE & PE. I would take a TEMP 1 in PE with M390 and a TEMP 1 in SE with XHP. And then I would let my fantasies run wild.
Then I would make a series of Hawkbills in SE with XHP. I would be worse than a kid in a "RUSSELL STOVER's" candy store :D

Wow, JD and Naperville, I like how you both think, great design ideas!

I’d like to have a 3 inch blade fixed blade like the izula or kolt, that has a sheath designed for pocket carry and adaptable for belt carry. It needs to be light weight and n690 is okay, as are 13c26, m390, lc200n.

Doc Dan wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:03 am

I’d like to have a 3 inch blade fixed blade like the izula or kolt, that has a sheath designed for pocket carry and adaptable for belt carry. It needs to be light weight and n690 is okay, as are 13c26, m390, lc200n.

https://www.collectorknives.net/product ... es/galago/

I carry this little guy in the pocket pretty often. I suppose the blade is a bit smaller than what you said, but it really does most cutting chores. You could easily get a decent kydex sheath and clip it to your pocket or belt. I just throw the sheath in my jeans pocket if I don't want it on the belt. Their sheaths are nicely made and ride tight. Plus, the knives are N690 and beautiful. I should have gotten the ironwood but instead went with polished black g10. Great knife. Thin stock with a hollow grind, mirrow polished on the flats and tang, hand rubbed satin finish, and handmade.

knivesandbooks wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:18 pm

Doc Dan wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:03 am

I’d like to have a 3 inch blade fixed blade like the izula or kolt, that has a sheath designed for pocket carry and adaptable for belt carry. It needs to be light weight and n690 is okay, as are 13c26, m390, lc200n.

https://www.collectorknives.net/product ... es/galago/

I carry this little guy in the pocket pretty often. I suppose the blade is a bit smaller than what you said, but it really does most cutting chores. You could easily get a decent kydex sheath and clip it to your pocket or belt. I just throw the sheath in my jeans pocket if I don't want it on the belt. Their sheaths are nicely made and ride tight. Plus, the knives are N690 and beautiful. I should have gotten the ironwood but instead went with polished black g10. Great knife. Thin stock with a hollow grind, mirrow polished on the flats and tang, hand rubbed satin finish, and handmade.

That’s a nice knife and a very idea of what I had in mind. It’s a little more pricey than I had in mind but still really really nice.