We need an Ark wharnie

[Evil D]

Real simple, just drop the blade down to a wharnie/sheepsfoot in line with the handle and call it done. I'll buy two. H1 is fine, both edge types please.

Forgive my primitive photoshop skills :o

[mb1]

Cool. Sort of Son of Ronin.

[The Meat man]

I think this would be a great idea.

[SpyderNut]

Yep for me. I like it.

[StuntZombie]

Count me in for one too.

[dogrunner]

This is an EASY one! Yes! Been wanting that variant from the time I bought the original. A natural choice. But I want it in LC200n if it is PE.

[JT]

Yes, Bring it allready! :D

[SG89]

In

[Mushroom]

I like it!

Seems like a good direction to take this knife, as its already a self defense knife!

[vivi]

Already got one



The Ark honestly needs a 2.0 IMO. It was a model I expected to love and EDC, instead I never carry mine.

- Do away with the hump completely. It does nothing but get in the way of putting your thumb on the spine.

- Completely re-design the sheath. Even with the second sheath revision, mine is not secure. This is the main reason I don't carry mine. I can pull it straight out of the sheath without even touching the release tab. This was the case prior to any modding as well, so it is not due to that.

- I think a wharncliffe version would be great. I really like the blade shape of the Ark, but with how small it is, when trying to use it for utility cuts things want to slip off towards the belly. On a knife the size of the street beat that shape works, but something the size of the Ark would work better for utility with less belly. Doesn't have to be a full wharny, even something shaped more like the Ladybug would be better IMO.

I adore the FRN/H1 construction, the ultra light weight and the very reasonable price point. With a few tweaks this couldbe THE edc fixed blade IMO. As it stands it's a knife I tried to mod to like more, but probably won't ever cary until I get around to making my own sheath.

I'll most likely give the SE a shot as a Christmas present to myself. It's a knife I really want to like. It's so light, and the material selection is my favorite. Maybe the serrations will help with things slipping off the edge.

[The Meat man]

^^ I agree 100% about getting rid of the hump, especially on such a small knife.

[Evil D]

I'm all for doing away with the hump, I just wasn't trying to ask for an entirely different knife. In truth I'd completely rather have a Spyderco-ized version of the Fusion One instead.

http://www.spyderco.com/forumII/viewtop ... =5&t=80546

[KnickKnackCity]

Homerun of an idea David. I am a big fan of this design.

I say keep the hump but lets get some jimping on the choil and thumb ramp. I really like my gf's ARK, but feel it needs some added traction for a fixed that small. Especially in wet environments, which at least partially inspired the design.

But I want it in LC200n if it is PE.

Agreed. I am okay with paying a few extra bucks to get the added edge retention.

[vivi]

I'd also like to see PE in a different steel.

I'm the contrarian that feels PE H1 has perfectly good edge retention. My Aqua Salt and Pacific Salt in PE have always held an edge well enough to get me through a work day / camping trip. But my PE Ark had terrible edge retention, even comparing it to those other PE H1 knives. The Ark had edge retention like most folks describe H1 PE, which has always been short of my experience with it.

I'm all for doing away with the hump, I just wasn't trying to ask for an entirely different knife. In truth I'd completely rather have a Spyderco-ized version of the Fusion One instead.

http://www.spyderco.com/forumII/viewtop ... =5&t=80546

I asked Mr. Janich is Spyderco had any interest in producing that model, and he said no. I'd love to see them do that with thin H1 with an FRN handle molded directly to the tang like they did with the Ark.

[Doc Dan]

I voted yes because of the way a wharncliffe will force a cut down deeper if using it for defense. However, it will also remove the extra cutting edge. The intent of the knife was to give as much edge as possible in a small knife.

This is why I do not have an ARK:


This knife has been around for a long time. Full tang, cheap, and it works great. (Notice the locking tab on the sheath?)

[ThePeacent]

I have only sold one Spyderco in my life, the ARK :confused:

I liked its shape, the steel is my favorite, and the sheath was excellent on mine (totally flat and lightweight, no retention issues) :cool:

To me due to its slim profile, low weight and steel it was the quintessential neck knife
But I didn't use it because: :o

- I want H1 to be in SE, always, especially for a knife that small with such a small edge length to wear out and dull (I bought it as soon as it was released, before they planned a SE version)

- Too big of a curve, things slipped off of it regularly, unlike my Minimalist Wharncliffe (and like it happened with my Minimalist Bowie) :mad:

- The hump with the hole, useless, got in the way, it got filled with food every time



So it didn't do what I wanted it to do (first time to happen with a Spyderco) so I got rid of it.
Now, I'd be in for a SE, no-hump wharnified ARK for sure, I wanted to like and use mine :spyder:

[Jazz]

I voted yes because of the way a wharncliffe will force a cut down deeper if using it for defense. However, it will also remove the extra cutting edge. The intent of the knife was to give as much edge as possible in a small knife.

This is why I do not have an ARK:


This knife has been around for a long time. Full tang, cheap, and it works great. (Notice the locking tab on the sheath?)

I have this knife, and it sucks for ergos. I never use it.

[Evil D]

- Too big of a curve, things slipped off of it regularly, unlike my Minimalist Wharncliffe (and like it happened with my Minimalist Bowie) :mad:

The curve would probably be fine if the blade had a more negative angle. Being angled upwards and having lots of belly means you really need to tweak your wrist a lot to get the point down on something. I'd rather it had about as much belly as a Dragonfly and a more negative angle.

[renegador]

I would actually own an ARK if it came as a Wharnie... As is, I just can't get into it. I'd love to see an updated blade like this, or even a simple leaf would be ok by me for a minimalist option.

[MichaelScott]

Nope. Not interested. I think the ARK is a finely designed last-ditch self defense weapon, not something meant for utility, food prep or general screwing around. I might like a bit of jimping on the “hump”. Don’t know never having held one. I would get the serrated SE version.

Watching Shirley’s short video on how the ARK can be used in those emergency self defense scenarios I think it would be extremely edfective if you could get it into play. Of course, that is true of any weapon.

Thinking of the ARK as anything other than what it designed for is to miss the point.

I like it and may someday get a SE version.