Spydiechef - 1 Year Test of Durability.
Spydiechef - 1 Year Test of Durability.
Hi everyone. This is gonna be a long post, but I think some of you might be interested in my test.
I was an avid knife collector for a while until finally, I decided out of the blue to become a 1 knife guy. It was rough, as you may imagine. Out of all my knives, 4 were contending for the pick: my large Inkosi, Slysz Bowie, Boos Blades Smoke, and the Spydiechef. In the end, I decided on the Spydiechef. It really grew on me, so I sold the rest, cried some more, and moved on.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9mc3ai5qqz12q ... M.jpg?dl=0
I decided to test this knife in a number of ways. But the main thing I wanted to find out was how durable is the titanium Reeve integral lock. Everyone always express concerns about titanium on steel. And even though I’ve never heard of a Sabenza having lock problems because of wear, everyone is all crazy in lockbar inserts and over travel stops and such.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h2u41h9hwon4n ... M.jpg?dl=0
So for the main attraction. For a straight year now, I have been deploying my Spydiechef. I have no measurement of the actual times I’ve done it. But I can tell you, on every drive to work (30 mins round trip) I have been flicking this knife open and close constantly. It’s like my fidget toy while I drive. Imagine that one knife, 5 times a week, 30mins per day. That’s a lot of deployments. And that’s not including playing with it at home. I thumb flicked, I wrist flicked, I spydie flicked, I rolled the blade out, I did it all. Important to note that I disassembled and cleaned the knife at least once a month.
The lock bar face is cabidized or carburized. Not sure which one but spyderco did treat it. I used no graphite or sharpie to prevent lockstick. I can tell you that after the lockstick went away when it was first bought, it never came back.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kxhupq4i1nufb ... M.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l21cmvrkyi421 ... M.jpg?dl=0
As you can see, the lock bar shows significant wear clearly where it interfaces with the blade. However this has not affected the knife in anyway at all from what I can tell. There is zero lock rock, no side to side play, and still perfectly centered. What’s even more surprising is that the position of the lock has not moved at all despite the wear it has taken. The knife came new with 80-90% lock up, and that’s where the lock up still is. And being as thin as this lock bar is, I never pushed it too far over to compromise the tension, and I did not baby the knife.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dzsso7pnbt6tg ... M.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/15hllk999icu6 ... M.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/em8o7089ra2te ... M.jpg?dl=0
So after a year of flicking this knife a gazillion times, you couldn’t even tell. It could be that spyderco did an amazing job engineering this, could be that the titanium on steel RIL is not a problem in terms of the durability of the lock, or could be that 20 years down the line it will wear enough to be compromising.
LC200N steel is an amazing steel. I decided to sharpen my Spydiechef with a 17 degree bevel per side and a 20 degree micro bevel, mirror polished, and this thing sliced like a demon. And the steel can handle that steeper angle very well. I would rank this steel slightly above S35VN in my experience. And with it being rust proof, it can’t be beat.
As you can see here, the stop pin created a mark or groove where it hits the blade both at the back of the tang and also the bottom when it’s closed. None of this has compromised the knife in anyway, at least not yet.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/p0p9o8qvq7cu4 ... M.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3vvspiu3veo3v ... M.jpg?dl=0
The stop pin and pivot are actually in really good condition, no surprises there.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kxal91yrq3y2y ... M.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jsirfnd679ukt ... M.jpg?dl=0
The bronze washers are also look good.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/23bl8e7tqngil ... M.jpg?dl=0
Now for the detent cut out. Not sure if you can see this well, but at the edge of the hole where the detent ball hops in and out, there is a very shallow ramp that has formed. I’m unsure if overtime, more wear there would affect this knife’s detent, but as of now, I cannot tell if there is any negative impact.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mbhmom4c9csr1 ... M.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ph38o1iwze0qv ... M.jpg?dl=0
The knife handle feels much more slippery than when it was new. Probably due to just wear overtime being in contact with my hands constantly causing it to smooth out. I wish this knife got the type of features that the slysz bowie got, like the stonewashed polished blade, contoured scales, crowned blade, ect.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uztv1ogklo54k ... M.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cwiwxezuwoklz ... M.jpg?dl=0
Something really disappointing, and a disadvantage to having the wire clip is that it creates marks where the clip contacts the scale. The wire clip wiggles, so it has wiggled in these tracks on the scale. Not pleasant sight to be honest.
I’m really impressed by the Spydiechef and I think I made the right choice for choosing it as my one and only knife. From now and onward, I think I will continue to test this knife to see how long it takes to wear out that lockbar. Besides, I’ve done this so long in my commutes that it feels wrong not to have it flicking there in my right hand while I drive.
If you’ve made it to the end of this long post, I really appreciate you taking the time to read it. And if even one person found this interesting and learned anything from this, this it was worth it.
I was an avid knife collector for a while until finally, I decided out of the blue to become a 1 knife guy. It was rough, as you may imagine. Out of all my knives, 4 were contending for the pick: my large Inkosi, Slysz Bowie, Boos Blades Smoke, and the Spydiechef. In the end, I decided on the Spydiechef. It really grew on me, so I sold the rest, cried some more, and moved on.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9mc3ai5qqz12q ... M.jpg?dl=0
I decided to test this knife in a number of ways. But the main thing I wanted to find out was how durable is the titanium Reeve integral lock. Everyone always express concerns about titanium on steel. And even though I’ve never heard of a Sabenza having lock problems because of wear, everyone is all crazy in lockbar inserts and over travel stops and such.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/h2u41h9hwon4n ... M.jpg?dl=0
So for the main attraction. For a straight year now, I have been deploying my Spydiechef. I have no measurement of the actual times I’ve done it. But I can tell you, on every drive to work (30 mins round trip) I have been flicking this knife open and close constantly. It’s like my fidget toy while I drive. Imagine that one knife, 5 times a week, 30mins per day. That’s a lot of deployments. And that’s not including playing with it at home. I thumb flicked, I wrist flicked, I spydie flicked, I rolled the blade out, I did it all. Important to note that I disassembled and cleaned the knife at least once a month.
The lock bar face is cabidized or carburized. Not sure which one but spyderco did treat it. I used no graphite or sharpie to prevent lockstick. I can tell you that after the lockstick went away when it was first bought, it never came back.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kxhupq4i1nufb ... M.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l21cmvrkyi421 ... M.jpg?dl=0
As you can see, the lock bar shows significant wear clearly where it interfaces with the blade. However this has not affected the knife in anyway at all from what I can tell. There is zero lock rock, no side to side play, and still perfectly centered. What’s even more surprising is that the position of the lock has not moved at all despite the wear it has taken. The knife came new with 80-90% lock up, and that’s where the lock up still is. And being as thin as this lock bar is, I never pushed it too far over to compromise the tension, and I did not baby the knife.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dzsso7pnbt6tg ... M.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/15hllk999icu6 ... M.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/em8o7089ra2te ... M.jpg?dl=0
So after a year of flicking this knife a gazillion times, you couldn’t even tell. It could be that spyderco did an amazing job engineering this, could be that the titanium on steel RIL is not a problem in terms of the durability of the lock, or could be that 20 years down the line it will wear enough to be compromising.
LC200N steel is an amazing steel. I decided to sharpen my Spydiechef with a 17 degree bevel per side and a 20 degree micro bevel, mirror polished, and this thing sliced like a demon. And the steel can handle that steeper angle very well. I would rank this steel slightly above S35VN in my experience. And with it being rust proof, it can’t be beat.
As you can see here, the stop pin created a mark or groove where it hits the blade both at the back of the tang and also the bottom when it’s closed. None of this has compromised the knife in anyway, at least not yet.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/p0p9o8qvq7cu4 ... M.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3vvspiu3veo3v ... M.jpg?dl=0
The stop pin and pivot are actually in really good condition, no surprises there.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kxal91yrq3y2y ... M.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jsirfnd679ukt ... M.jpg?dl=0
The bronze washers are also look good.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/23bl8e7tqngil ... M.jpg?dl=0
Now for the detent cut out. Not sure if you can see this well, but at the edge of the hole where the detent ball hops in and out, there is a very shallow ramp that has formed. I’m unsure if overtime, more wear there would affect this knife’s detent, but as of now, I cannot tell if there is any negative impact.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mbhmom4c9csr1 ... M.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ph38o1iwze0qv ... M.jpg?dl=0
The knife handle feels much more slippery than when it was new. Probably due to just wear overtime being in contact with my hands constantly causing it to smooth out. I wish this knife got the type of features that the slysz bowie got, like the stonewashed polished blade, contoured scales, crowned blade, ect.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uztv1ogklo54k ... M.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cwiwxezuwoklz ... M.jpg?dl=0
Something really disappointing, and a disadvantage to having the wire clip is that it creates marks where the clip contacts the scale. The wire clip wiggles, so it has wiggled in these tracks on the scale. Not pleasant sight to be honest.
I’m really impressed by the Spydiechef and I think I made the right choice for choosing it as my one and only knife. From now and onward, I think I will continue to test this knife to see how long it takes to wear out that lockbar. Besides, I’ve done this so long in my commutes that it feels wrong not to have it flicking there in my right hand while I drive.
If you’ve made it to the end of this long post, I really appreciate you taking the time to read it. And if even one person found this interesting and learned anything from this, this it was worth it.
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Re: Spydiechef - 1 Year Test of Durability.
Thanks so much for the detailed write up with pictures! Real world experience is very valuable.
I know I've flipped my Southard a bazillion times and it's similarly solid.
Good to know that wear-in doesn't mean wear-out!
I know I've flipped my Southard a bazillion times and it's similarly solid.
Good to know that wear-in doesn't mean wear-out!
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Re: Spydiechef - 1 Year Test of Durability.
thorough and enjoyable review. :cool:
I'm glad you enjoying this one, it's obvious Spyderco did a great job on it.
any other thoughts on LC200N aside from what you said and the comparison with S35VN would be much appreciated: issues, pros, cons, curious things...
Thanks! :spyder:
I'm glad you enjoying this one, it's obvious Spyderco did a great job on it.
any other thoughts on LC200N aside from what you said and the comparison with S35VN would be much appreciated: issues, pros, cons, curious things...
Thanks! :spyder:
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Re: Spydiechef - 1 Year Test of Durability.
Great review and photos! Thanks for spending the time. Spydiechef is on my shortlist. If I could only catch one on the forums!
Re: Spydiechef - 1 Year Test of Durability.
excellent review! my most favorite spydie as of date
Re: Spydiechef - 1 Year Test of Durability.
Thanks for the review and welcome to the forum!
I have been looking to pick up a Spydiechef for a while now, partly because I am a Slysz fan, but mainly because I want to try out the LC200N steel. Sounds like I should definitely try to grab one before they are discontinued like the Bowie.
I have been looking to pick up a Spydiechef for a while now, partly because I am a Slysz fan, but mainly because I want to try out the LC200N steel. Sounds like I should definitely try to grab one before they are discontinued like the Bowie.
Tim
Re: Spydiechef - 1 Year Test of Durability.
I haven't used mine with enough aggression to discover how LC200N compares to other steels. Heavy-user Surfingringo pegged its edge-holding between VG10 and S30V, but I can't recall how he set his bevels. You say S35VN with 10dps creating the edge. I'm intrigued.
Apart from that, I'm glad to hear the lock is robust and durable after countless deployments. I'm an unapologetic flicker but have worried about RILs.
Thanks for the report.
Apart from that, I'm glad to hear the lock is robust and durable after countless deployments. I'm an unapologetic flicker but have worried about RILs.
Thanks for the report.
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Re: Spydiechef - 1 Year Test of Durability.
Love mine and a couple of weeks ago it got a really good work out in the kitchen but I'd love to see a bigger spydiechef 2
Re: Spydiechef - 1 Year Test of Durability.
It’s hard to imagine a folding knife as a dedicated chef’s knife, and the SpydieChef was never intended to be that. Isn’t a chef’s knife usually 8 or 9 inches long, 6 at the minimum?
Perhaps someday a SpydieChef 2 will be longer than the original, but as my office-type EDC knife, the SpydieChef seems the perfect size as is and really excels in that role. One reason is how well it fits in the pocket, and a substantially longer version couldn’t do that as well.
Maybe not a chef’s knife in the traditional sense, but it’s ideal for slicing apples and pears for lunch.
Perhaps someday a SpydieChef 2 will be longer than the original, but as my office-type EDC knife, the SpydieChef seems the perfect size as is and really excels in that role. One reason is how well it fits in the pocket, and a substantially longer version couldn’t do that as well.
Maybe not a chef’s knife in the traditional sense, but it’s ideal for slicing apples and pears for lunch.
Jim
Re: Spydiechef - 1 Year Test of Durability.
Great review! Glad the knife clicked for you, but it's a little short for my taste. On that note...
Ever heard of crazy Russians? Just look at the pictures. https://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/97/2082082-7.htmljimmd wrote:It’s hard to imagine a folding knife as a dedicated chef’s knife, and the SpydieChef was never intended to be that. Isn’t a chef’s knife usually 8 or 9 inches long, 6 at the minimum?
Re: Spydiechef - 1 Year Test of Durability.
woah.. waaay too big for EDC but i'd definitely buy one of those in lc200n or s35vn or in any stainless supersteelkrikun98 wrote: Ever heard of crazy Russians? Just look at the pictures. https://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/97/2082082-7.html
https://youtu.be/7SFR02Ul398
Re: Spydiechef - 1 Year Test of Durability.
Depends on your pockets. There's a lot of space in a winter jacket. And it's always cold around here...npad69 wrote:woah.. waaay too big for EDC but i'd definitely buy one of those in lc200n or s35vn or in any stainless supersteelkrikun98 wrote: Ever heard of crazy Russians? Just look at the pictures. https://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/97/2082082-7.html
Jokes aside, though, the original is in M390. I have a couple of this guy's knives, and the workmanship is nothing short of incredible.
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Re: Spydiechef - 1 Year Test of Durability.
Great 1st post Havels, TY
Appears lock stick is a non issue, at least on this offering.
And not to derail this thread further, but...
At 49 seconds into that video, can't believe no one has commented how they incorporated that handy little mechanism that folds out the blade cover, pretty slick. If dropped, not sure how well that would hold up?
Also, looks like there's 2 very shallow fullers on either side of the blade. Guessing those where machined in to help minimize food stickage during kitchen prep work.
If that's a production piece, anyone know the price converted to USD?
Appears lock stick is a non issue, at least on this offering.
npad69 wrote:krikun98 wrote:
https://youtu.be/7SFR02Ul398
And not to derail this thread further, but...
At 49 seconds into that video, can't believe no one has commented how they incorporated that handy little mechanism that folds out the blade cover, pretty slick. If dropped, not sure how well that would hold up?
Also, looks like there's 2 very shallow fullers on either side of the blade. Guessing those where machined in to help minimize food stickage during kitchen prep work.
If that's a production piece, anyone know the price converted to USD?
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Re: Spydiechef - 1 Year Test of Durability.
CRKT made the Lockhart Tactical with the same designChris_P_Bacon wrote:Great 1st post Havels, TY
Appears lock stick is a non issue, at least on this offering.
npad69 wrote:krikun98 wrote:
At 49 seconds into that video, can't believe no one has commented how they incorporated that handy little mechanism that folds out the blade cover, pretty slick. If dropped, not sure how well that would hold up?
?
https://www.lockharttactical.com/recent ... llet-knife
Re: Spydiechef - 1 Year Test of Durability.
I think Benchmade did it earlier with this and the LFK:ThePeacent wrote:CRKT made the Lockhart Tactical with the same designChris_P_Bacon wrote:Great 1st post Havels, TY
Appears lock stick is a non issue, at least on this offering.
npad69 wrote:krikun98 wrote:
At 49 seconds into that video, can't believe no one has commented how they incorporated that handy little mechanism that folds out the blade cover, pretty slick. If dropped, not sure how well that would hold up?
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https://www.lockharttactical.com/recent ... llet-knife
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/BM1011 ... -fillet-w-
I haven't disassembled any of these, but the guy says his design is original. And these aren't quite folding chefs' knives.
BTW, the folding tail on all of my examples moves with the blade. On the CRKT you have to fold it in and out yourself.
Re: Spydiechef - 1 Year Test of Durability.
i wish spyderco would make something like this
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Re: Spydiechef - 1 Year Test of Durability.
Thanks very much and welcome to the forum.Havels wrote:Hi everyone. This is gonna be a long post, but I think some of you might be interested in my test.
I found it very interesting to look at this knife through your eyes. It doesn't get that much attention, and it is a very interesting
choice for a man deciding to be a "one knife man". That concept in itself is food for thought.
Re: Spydiechef - 1 Year Test of Durability.
I agree with the choice. It may not be the obvious one to most people, but then I imagine that most Spyderco customers haven’t held a SpydieChef. For a moderately sized blade, it fits in the pocket extremely well. It’s a supreme slicer and practically rustproof, with great fit & finish and smooth action.Tucson Tom wrote:Thanks very much and welcome to the forum.Havels wrote:Hi everyone. This is gonna be a long post, but I think some of you might be interested in my test.
I found it very interesting to look at this knife through your eyes. It doesn't get that much attention, and it is a very interesting
choice for a man deciding to be a "one knife man". That concept in itself is food for thought.
Jim