Spyderco Swick

[alexthegreat]

Hey all,

I've spent countless hours over the past few weeks just oogling over pretty much every Spyderco product trying to see which will be my first purchase. One of the knives I saw was the Swick series that was discontinued. It seemed like a pretty good series and I was wondering if anyone knows if they'll ever be put back in stock. I would probably like to get a 3 or 4.

Besides that, I think my first Spyderco will most likely me a Persistence, Tenacious, or Delica 4.

Thanks for any info!

[bearfacedkiller]

The Swick was more of an experimental model. They were made in limited numbers. I think there were only 500 each made of the Swick3 and Swick4. They both took a considerable amount of time to sell out. Unfortunately I do not think there will be any more soon. There were a few forumites clamouring for a hawkbill version.

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I would prowl Ebay. I do not think that there were any fake Swicks so you should be good to go. Also there is the Introvert which was designed to be a folding Swick.

[vivi]

A few of us have been requesting an LC200N or H1 Swick but nothing has materialized from those discussions. I own a Swick 3 and I like it very much.

[brj]

I've been waiting for an H1 version of this for some time now, still hoping it might happen.

[mrtodd777]

Keep your eyes peeled and you will eventually find one. I know I did after a bit of prowling. They are usually very decently priced when they do pop up.

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[nicked.onaut]

I would prowl Ebay. I do not think that there were any fake Swicks so you should be good to go. Also there is the Introvert which was designed to be a folding Swick.

Unfortunately I have seen Swick fakes, as well as SPOT fakes. The SPOT fakes are easier to, umm, spot due to recurve grind and multi-hole disparities from the real deal. The two Swicks awhile back had subtle but discernible miscues.

The Swicks and SPOTS are fine niche knives, but you have to find your preferred way to carry. I wonder about the sales numbers for the ARK.

For a first Spyderco, you can't go wrong with a Delica, or your other two choices--Persistence and Tenacious.

good luck,
nicked.onaut

[bearfacedkiller]

Good to know Nick!

[JD Spydo]

I've always thought that the SWICK model would bode well if they did them like they do the MULE Team series and introduce them in a wide variey of blade steels. I've always thought too that the SWICK model makes one of Spyderco's best neck knives if a guy would want to use one for such a type of EDC.

I really love that reverse Hawkbill variant the SWICK that the one Brother shared with us. There are many possible blade styles that would make that a great fixed blade selection for Spyderco's main line up IMO.

I've wanted a Spyderedged Swick model for a long time and I do believe it would sell very well with the right blade steel. I've only owned two of them over the years and deeply regret trading them. I do hope that the SWICK model doesn't become extinct.

[sal]

OK, for the sake of discussion, what would be the ideal blade shape and steel/material for a "Swick" capable of going mainstream distribution? EDC carry and what type of carry system? Plain and serrated?

sal

[twinboysdad]

OK, for the sake of discussion, what would be the ideal blade shape and steel/material for a "Swick" capable of going mainstream distribution? EDC carry and what type of carry system? Plain and serrated?

sal

Wharncliffe, LC200N, and I personally would like a sheath that allows vertical placement on belt and has minimal overall footprint i.e. Close to custom sheath

[Surfingringo]

Hi Sal, I think Lc200n or H1 would be a logical choice for a knife like this. Even outside of my saltwater use, my swick is always worn inside my clothing so it will get sweaty on hot days. A non corroding steel would work well in this design I think.

As far as blade shapes, this design (imho) is all about the pull cut so I would go wharncliffe, HB or Reverse “s”. Of those three, I personally prefer the reverse “s”. It gives the utility of a HB but with a little belly by the heel so it’s not awkward cutting things like string that are held with the thumb against the side of the blade. If we’re getting specific, I prefer a slimmer reverse s with more downsweep at the tip than a fatter one. In other words, I prefer using a shape like the lil matriarch to something like the Spot or the Cricket.

My second choice for bladeshape would be wharncliffe. I might pass on a HB. They work awesome at one thing but are too limited in their usefulness for me.

[Surfingringo]

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[vivi]

OK, for the sake of discussion, what would be the ideal blade shape and steel/material for a "Swick" capable of going mainstream distribution? EDC carry and what type of carry system? Plain and serrated?

sal

What I would like is an LC200N Swick 3 (Wharncliffe) in PE or full SE options, with very thin, textured G10 scales. Minimalistic boltaron sheath drilled to accept g-clips.

However, I'm not sure if that's what the market would respond best to. Maybe CTSBD1 & no scales would keep costs lower which might produce more sales, for example.

[nicked.onaut]

OK, for the sake of discussion, what would be the ideal blade shape and steel/material for a "Swick" capable of going mainstream distribution? EDC carry and what type of carry system? Plain and serrated?

sal

CruWear.

Leaf shape of Swick 2. Although I prefer wharncliffe, I think this shape has broadest appeal. PE also with broader appeal than SE, but I'd buy both.



Carry sheath: horizontal kydex belt sheath, option for vertical, and (easy) option for neck carry

Supply the sheath for the bare blade. If someone wants Halpern scales or to make their own, aftermarket vendors like AZW can fill that need, or DIY by the purchaser.

kind regards,
nicked.onaut

[bearfacedkiller]

I drew up a Swick with a Military style blade shape quite a while back and I would buy one. The are times that I do not find the 3 and 4 that different. The tips are almost in the same place and the 4 really doesn't have much belly.

A fancy steel always seems to help with sales but I think, like Lance said, something corrosion resistant makes sense for a knife that may be carried IWB or around the neck. M390/204P/20CV?

I think having vertical and horizontal belt carry with the option to carry as a neck knife would be ideal. I think for mainstream appeal it needs to come with a sheath but scales can be made available as an add on or aftermarket.

Here is the 4 laying on top of the 3 with my rendered Military blade shape. A straight spine and full sweeping belly.

[ZMW]

CTS BD1 if it kept prices low. But, LC200N would be fun. It could be a lower cost way for some people to try the steel. I would enjoy any type of hawkbill style blade for this application. Assuming it comes with scales and sheath...

[sailhand]

Hi Sal, a swick in lc200n plain edge would be fantastic, maybe just a slightly longer blade, say 2.75 inches, plain edge. Maybe a spyder edge h1 and call them the salt swicks or salt swick 5. With the longer blade I think it needs a sheath, with multiple mounting/carry options. I would definitely use these blades, I think the utility aspect of the swick is great and especially in marine use with the secure grip afforded by the design. The leaf shape blade would be my preference in a thinner lighter ffg this would help to keep the weight down. Great to see you interested in discussing a new swick.
Cheers

[Surfingringo]

I drew up a Swick with a Military style blade shape quite a while back and I would buy one. The are times that I do not find the 3 and 4 that different. The tips are almost in the same place and the 4 really doesn't have much belly.

A fancy steel always seems to help with sales but I think, like Lance said, something corrosion resistant makes sense for a knife that may be carried IWB or around the neck. M390/204P/20CV?

I think having vertical and horizontal belt carry with the option to carry as a neck knife would be ideal. I think for mainstream appeal it needs to come with a sheath but scales can be made available as an add on or aftermarket.

Here is the 4 laying on top of the 3 with my rendered Military blade shape. A straight spine and full sweeping belly.

I like that a lot Darby! Given the negative orientation of blade to handle on the swick, a shape more like that would allow the edge to be used more functionally on a flat surface. My eye wants to see a bit pointier tip...maybe if the blade was just a hair longer like sailhand suggested, the tip could be a bit pointier? I also like the idea of grinding it a bit thinner than the 4...especially at the edge.

[bearfacedkiller]

Thanks Lance. It was trying to cut bait with my Swick4 that inspired me to draw that up. Getting it to work on a flat surface was really the main goal. Fishing is my main use for the Swicks. That and, like you, I am a fan of straight spines.

[Halfneck]

Wharncliffe blade of H1 or LC200N with either fully serrated or plain-edge. I was always fine with the sheath my Spot had.