StuntZombie, I'm with you on almost every point that you make, but not the fallacy that hybrid cultivars are the same as GMOs... you can't cross breed corn with anything but other corn cultivars, let alone fish. High yields, drought resistance and pest resistance are great attributes, but getting them by inserting genes from other species is not understood well enough yet to fully anticipate potential long term issues. Right now Monsanto and other BioTech companies are pushing "products" with very short track records and many of them have already proven to have major environmental repercussions, why should we think that their food safety is any different? Many GMO products *may* be totally safe for both us and the environment, but it isn't proven yet.StuntZombie wrote:Spyderedgeforever,
The majority of foods you've ever eaten are "GMO". They may not have been created in a lab, but they were engineered by people to yield a product that was hardy and edible. For example, some of the grains we eat were engineered through selective breeding thousands of years ago. GMO foods can also be engineered to be resistant to certain fungi and other harmful organisms, which can help cut down on the use of pesticides, fungicides, and herbicides. What if we lived in a world where people that were allergic to nuts could still consume them, because the protein that caused allergic reactions had been removed?
As for organic, that's mainly
a label used to charge more for a product that is usually no higher quality than regular produce. There are exceptions of course, but any difference in taste is likely to be influenced by the perception that paying more means it's a higher quality item. Organic produce hasn't been found to contain any more vitamins or nutrients than non-organic. Even taste tests have found that people couldn't differentiate between organic and non-organic produce. Another issue with organic farming is the types of pesticides used. People tend to think that just because something is natural, that it is safer, when that couldn't be further from the truth. There are instances where organic pesticides have been found to be more harmful, because they affect more than just the target species. Organic farming is less efficient as well, yielding less product per acre. If every farm were to switch to organic right now, it would require the clearing of more land to make up the difference. You would also see an increase of the number of deaths related to starvation every year.
Ultimately, both forms of farming have their issues, and I think the answer is combining aspects of each.
I tend to believe that most of our health issues stem from deficiencies in our own genetics. More and more research is finding that our genes may play a larger part of our well being than previously thought. It might explain why people who eat "healthy" on a constant basis still end up with heart disease or other issues that we once thought could be predicted by our diets.
Ken I pretty much just quit eating wheat products all together. And it really doesn't factor into the "Roundup" problem that you wisely pointed out to us but it's the "GMO" factor that scares me the most. My old boss ( the one I converted to Spyderco ) went on a totally gluten free diet and he lost 80+ pounds in just shy of 5 months. His rapid weight loss literally blew my mind. He also claimed to have much more energy than he had since he was in his twenties .kbuzbee wrote:I tend to buy organic and feel "better" for doing so. I think forcing the plant to defend itself growing benefits us in ways we don't begin to understand yet.
But the one area I try to stay organic most is wheat. The current process of growing non organic wheat is (IMO) nuts. When they are ready to harvest, they spray the field with Roundup to kill it off. Yes, this lets them get 10% more harvest but that trace amount of Roundup in your bread just can't be good for you. Again, IMO, it's a big contributor to the current increase in what people are calling gluten intolerance. Seems completely reasonable to me that their gut symptoms are more due to Roundup than to gluten (and yes, I realize that modern varieties of wheat have been bred to increase the gluten content, but still...
And I'm right with you on that one as well. GMO is nothing like cross pollination (though they'd love people to believe it's just the same only more "scientific") GMO foods are created BECAUSE they are doing things that can't be done by cross pollination.JD Spydo wrote:Ken I pretty much just quit eating wheat products all together. And it really doesn't factor into the "Roundup" problem that you wisely pointed out to us but it's the "GMO" factor that scares me the most.
I love growing heirloom seeds. Unfortunately our yard is 90% shade and my gardens don't tend to do well..JD Spydo wrote: It's interesting to note that the "powers that be" have a huge underground warehouse of heirloom seeds stored. That's been documented by some very reliable sources. If I make my way to South Missouri this summer like I plan on doing I'm going to get all the heirloom seeds I can get my hands on and try to grow most of my veggies and fruits.
It is a fruit and the ones I grow are pre "heirloom" They are classified as "ancient" They are smaller than cherry tomatoes. A wild variety whose fruit is about the size of a large blueberry. More nutrition in a couple of those little guys that a 2 pound beefsteak tomato, haha The cool thing is they reseed themselves every year. Just let a few drop in the fall. They grow in the only sunny patch I have.JD Spydo wrote:Because the tomato believe it or not is a fruit and it's one plant you can still easily get heirloom seeds for.
Amen to that!JD Spydo wrote:The bottom line to all of this "frankenfood" insanity boils down to one simple common denominator>>> GOD HAD IT RIGHT TO BEGIN WITH!! But leave to man to adulterate even our own precious food supply
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