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Yojimbo Idea

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:52 pm
by Donut
So, now that the Golden expansion is built...

Where is our small (800-1,000 piece) run of full flat ground Yojimbo 2's? :)

A FFG sprint wouldn't take any extra equipment, right?

You know, for those people who like Yojimbo 2's and won't complain about the tip being too weak. :o

Re: Yojimbo Idea

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:54 pm
by Cogito
Consigned.

Would purchase.

Re: Yojimbo Idea

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:55 pm
by Cujobob
The knife was designed with the grind it comes with for a reason that Mr Janich expands on in one of his YouTube interviews. Spyderco should probably develop an entirely different blade shape with the same handle in order to use an FFG blade.

Re: Yojimbo Idea

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:05 pm
by Donut
Cujobob wrote:The knife was designed with the grind it comes with for a reason that Mr Janich expands on in one of his YouTube interviews. Spyderco should probably develop an entirely different blade shape with the same handle in order to use an FFG blade.
Yeah, I thought it was because people complained that they thought the Yojimbo 1 had a weak tip because of the FFG.

Re: Yojimbo Idea

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:12 pm
by Evil D
I still don't believe the tip has to be weak with FFG. All they have to do is grind it like the Rock Lobster, with no distal taper. The slope of the wharnie tip will still be there but the tip will only be as thin as the rest of the blade is behind the edge. It baffles me why more wharnies aren't done this way. The original Yojimbo could have been ground this way and it wouldn't have had a thin little fragile tip, and the tip doesn't have to be thin to still be effective in self defense.

Re: Yojimbo Idea

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:14 pm
by Cogito
I'm terrified of sharpening my Yo2 because of the tip. Maybe I'm worrying too much. I love this knife though. It's in my pocket right now.

Re: Yojimbo Idea

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:42 pm
by DrtyHarry
Tip on the S90V won't break unless you throw it!



Harry

Re: Yojimbo Idea

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:00 pm
by Evil D
Cogito wrote:I'm terrified of sharpening my Yo2 because of the tip. Maybe I'm worrying too much. I love this knife though. It's in my pocket right now.
What are you using to sharpen on? I haven't had any issues with the tip. If anything you should probably avoid the corners on a Sharpmaker.
DrtyHarry wrote:Tip on the S90V won't break unless you throw it!



Harry

Or drop it on tile, or concrete, or just about anything other than dirt. Most tips that I've broken were from drops. The tip was broken off my S90V Yojimbo 2 somehow and I don't even know how it happened.

Re: Yojimbo Idea

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:02 pm
by DrtyHarry
Really? ****.... S90V is like a diamond.


Harry

Re: Yojimbo Idea

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:28 pm
by Cogito
EvD,
I have a SM, but I'm still new at this. I will take your advice and avoid the corners.

Re: Yojimbo Idea

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:36 pm
by Holland
I'd be more interested in a ffg version than the current blade.

When I first saw the title my thoughts automatically went to increasing the blade length 2mm lol

Re: Yojimbo Idea

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:37 pm
by Evil D
DrtyHarry wrote:Really? ****.... S90V is like a diamond.


Harry
To quote the barbarian from Diablo 3

"Those who make themselves hard, make themselves brittle"

Yes it's really hard, but that also means it's more likely to break/chip rather than bend when pushed beyond its limits. I haven't experienced any serious chipping in use but if dropped on something like concrete or ceramic tile you're almost guaranteed a chipped tip.

Re: Yojimbo Idea

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:50 am
by tvenuto
DrtyHarry wrote:Really? ****.... S90V is like a diamond.


Harry
If that was the case you wouldn't be able to sharpen it. Also impact toughness relies on different mechanisms than abrasive wear. This is why you can wear the head of a sledge hammer down to a nub by rubbing it against concrete repeatedly, but smash the concrete to bits in a single strike of the hammer.

Also, the very tip of my S90V Yojimbo did actually fracture off, and I've never dropped it. It's very small, but the edge at the very tip is gone. Like D, I'm not sure when or how it happened, and I don't cut anything more challenging than cardboard.

I'm also of the mind that a FFG version could be built, although I do have to wonder if this blade stock would work.

Re: Yojimbo Idea

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:46 am
by ABX2011
You can have your special run but I love the YO2 just the way it is!

Re: Yojimbo Idea

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:58 am
by Surfingringo
Cogito wrote:I'm terrified of sharpening my Yo2 because of the tip. Maybe I'm worrying too much. I love this knife though. It's in my pocket right now.
You won't break the tip sharpening. The more realistic danger is you could round it a bit if you are not careful. Be aware of not dragging the tip off of the rods and you should not have an issue. Also, If you do round the tip just a bit it is very easy to fix on the yojimbo. Just sand the flat spine a bit on a flat surface until the you've got your tip back.

Re: Yojimbo Idea

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 12:17 pm
by Cogito
Thank you Surfing Gringo

Re: Yojimbo Idea

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 12:26 pm
by bearfacedkiller
I am with D. If they don't give it a distal taper then the tip should be just fine with a ffg. I love my Yo the way it is and think the HG actually looks sexy but I would also be interested in one with a ffg.

Re: Yojimbo Idea

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 2:45 pm
by Cogito
When sharpening the Yo2, do you guys recommend using the 40 degrees or 30 degrees on the sharpmaker?

Re: Yojimbo Idea

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 2:49 pm
by 10just
FFG or not, i just want new configurations of the Yo2 in general! love this knife so much. new colors/materials/steels/grinds, sign me up..

Re: Yojimbo Idea

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:17 pm
by Able Dog
Cogito wrote:When sharpening the Yo2, do you guys recommend using the 40 degrees or 30 degrees on the sharpmaker?
I use the 30 degree setting. I like to keep my Yo2 as sharp as possible.

I'd be interested in a FFG Yo2, but I'm not dying to have one. A saber ground Yo2 would work nicely too. It would end up thicker behind the edge, and possibly make the tip slightly more robust.