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Did I buy a fake Civilian?

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:36 am
by ray11bb4
I just got this knife in off of eBay. I'm new to spyderco and bought it before learning of counterfeits. I have contacted the seller and he claims it is a real spyderco, but I'd like some expert eyes.

Re: Did I buy a fake Civilian?

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:09 am
by The Deacon
AFAIK there has never been a legitimate Civilian in orange G-10.

Re: Did I buy a fake Civilian?

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:20 am
by hudsonhawk
Yes, fake. Seki markings are stamped, not etched and the bug on the blade is wrong

Re: Did I buy a fake Civilian?

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:40 am
by SG89
Hopefully you can get your money back OP

Re: Did I buy a fake Civilian?

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:16 am
by SpyderNut
It appears to be a fake based on several things: The rough wire edge on the serrations, the "bug" logo, the off-center pocket clip holes, and as Paul stated, the orange G-10 scales. I would return it as soon as possible for a refund.

Re: Did I buy a fake Civilian?

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:44 am
by SpydyLover1234
Sorry man.

Re: Did I buy a fake Civilian?

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:46 am
by losinground
yeah never made an orange one.

Re: Did I buy a fake Civilian?

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:49 am
by Johnnie1801
Might be a good idea to send the vendors' details and photos of the knife etc to Spyderco's legal department before you send the knife back, hopefully they can stop future sales.

Re: Did I buy a fake Civilian?

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:56 pm
by funghiman
Undoubtedly a fake. Aside from all the other points mentioned (etched markings, scale color, etc.), Civilians should usually come in pouches instead of boxes as shown by this set of pictures. Of course if you happen to have a picture of that label we can even have more comparison with a legit Seki Spyderco. Anyways you do have the right to report the seller and get your hard-earned money back. Take your action in time.

Re: Did I buy a fake Civilian?

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:17 pm
by palonej
How bout mentioning the seller Ray.....be nice to know who to stay away from.
Joe

Re: Did I buy a fake Civilian?

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 9:44 pm
by ray11bb4
I will be getting a refund to include shipping paid and return shipping. The seller is from Canada monte-benja , It seems like he was not aware that he was selling a fake.

Re: Did I buy a fake Civilian?

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:09 am
by can't freehand
ray11bb4 wrote:I just got this knife in off of eBay. I'm new to spyderco and bought it before learning of counterfeits. I have contacted the seller and he claims it is a real spyderco, but I'd like some expert eyes.
definitely fake, the seller is lying

file a complaint with Ebay and get your money back.

Re: Did I buy a fake Civilian?

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:47 am
by The Deacon
ray11bb4 wrote:I will be getting a refund to include shipping paid and return shipping. The seller is from Canada monte-benja , It seems like he was not aware that he was selling a fake.
I'm sorry, but anyone selling a knife with a $290 MSRP and a $175 "US street price" for $70 is either very naive, or they know **** well it's a fake.

Re: Did I buy a fake Civilian?

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:04 am
by aesmith
A fake shouldn't really be returned.

Re: Did I buy a fake Civilian?

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:26 am
by jalcon
The writing on the blade looks really off as well..

Re: Did I buy a fake Civilian?

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:07 pm
by JT
Sorry man, as fake as they come. The box label would be interesting to see, just curious.

Re: Did I buy a fake Civilian?

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:51 pm
by hudsonhawk
ray11bb4 wrote:I just got this knife in off of eBay. I'm new to spyderco and bought it before learning of counterfeits. I have contacted the seller and he claims it is a real spyderco, but I'd like some expert eyes.
I didn't return the fake I got. It's illegal to ship a counterfeit item like that across state lines, not to mention countries like you plan to. Tell the seller you're surrendering it to Spydercos fraud dept and he's out of luck. I did this and got my money back and handed the fake to the SFO.

Re: Did I buy a fake Civilian?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:27 pm
by cheflou
The ebay seller has the knife back up for sale. I almost bought it but i knew that it was to good to be true, then i found this tread.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331773451940?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Did I buy a fake Civilian?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:59 pm
by farnorthdan
Good catch cheflou, and welcome to the forum

Re: Did I buy a fake Civilian?

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:13 pm
by Seven7VII
Realize this is an old thread, but also, on back of box: Trademark ROUND HOLD.