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MT20P will be available for sale on Friday, 27-Mar-2015 at 0900 (MDT)

All sales will be handled by the Spyderco Factory Outlet store online at http://spyderco.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. You will find it under model # MT20.

Maximum Purchase Allowed: 2

Cost: $79.95 each

Domestic Orders:
Domestic Shipping in the Continental United States: Standard Shipping rates apply.
Alaska, Hawaii, and Puerto Rico Shipping: USPS $15.00

International Orders:
International orders have a maximum allowed amount of $600 (including shipping fees) for all online orders. All orders over $600 must be placed via phone or e-mail and paid for via wire transfer. Shipment of orders paid for via wire transfer will not occur until monies have been received by the Spyderco Factory Outlet Store. You may contact our store to place a wire transfer order at sfo@spyderco.com or 303/279-8383 x 107.

International shipments will be sent out according to our International Shipping Schedule:
Shopping Cart Total: $0-$99 - Shipping/Handling Charge $25
Shopping Cart Total: $100-$399 - Shipping/Handling Charge $45
Shopping Cart Total: $400 and higher - Shipping/Handling Charge $60

International shipments will be via USPS International Priority Mail. Please be aware, we will have limited tracking capabilities. Tracking once it leaves the US is dependent upon the postal services outside the US and their ability to provide it. However, this will completely eliminate UPS Brokerage Fees.

About CTS B70P:
Spyderco’s twentieth Mule Team Project installment highlights Carpenter® CTS B70P® blade steel—a high-chromium, air-hardening steel alloyed with molybdenum, vanadium and niobium. Like conventional steels, the particle metallurgy process begins with a homogenous molten bath of high-alloy steel. However, rather than being poured into ingot molds, the molten steel is forced through a nozzle under high pressure to create a spray of small spherical droplets that quickly solidify into powder particles. The small size of the particles forms micro-ingots, drastically reducing the alloy segregation in the steel and ensuring an extremely fine, uniform carbide structure. This enhances the steel’s edge retention, as well as its grinding and polishing characteristics.

CTS B70P is a powder metallurgy derivative of Carpenter’s CRB-7 alloy, but offers improved wear resistance and hardness capability. Its corrosion resistance is very comparable to 440C stainless steel. Collectively, these qualities make it an excellent candidate for cutlery applications.

What is the Mule Team:
For those of you unfamiliar with our Mule Team Project, it is unique to Spyderco. In-house we call knife samples designed and built for testing and evaluation Mules. We know a healthy percentage of knife users are interested in different blade steels and their performance abilities. Running with that, we released an ongoing Mule Team Project. Several times per year we unveil the same single-piece fixed blade patterned knife in a different and exotic blade steel. This lets steel-obsessed knife knuts test, try and use something normally not offered to the industry. Product runs are limited to 600 – 1000 pieces of each steel type depending on foundry requirements.

Mule Blades are leaf-shaped with a sharpened and finished PlainEdge blade but with an unfinished handle providing a do-it-yourself opportunity. The unfinished handle has a series of holes for attaching custom handle scales or for wrapping with para-cord. Each piece is sold without handle scales or a carry sheath focusing the project on the blade steel. This opens endless creative possibilities for the owner to design their own handle scale and carry options.

Thanks for the heads-up! :spyder:

Oh, Boy! I guess that means I need to get my MT19 scales finished up...

TedP

I'm always down for more Mules. :D

Sweet!
Been a while...

..... :confused:

Bodog wrote:It looks like a more corrosion resistant D2. If not exactly, then close.

I think that the resistance to corrosion of CTS® B70P = CPM S30V.

The steel is very similar in composition to CTS75P used in Mule Team 15.

CTS70P 1.10 C, 0.40 Mn, 0.025 Max. Ph, 0.01 Max. S, 0.30 Si, 14.00 Cr, 2.00 Mo, 0.25 Nb, 1.00 V, Bal. Fe

CTS75P 1.15 C, 0.5 Mn, 0.30 Si, 14.4 Cr, 3.95 Mo, 1.25 V, 80.45 Fe

There is less of every alloy element except Silicon with the addition of 0.25% niobium. Most of them are reduced just a little but the Vanadium is about halved.

I wonder how it will compare to MT15? Sal, what was the rational for this steel? Are edge retention, toughness or corrosion resistance improved? Or is it cheaper or easier to process with similar performance? Other reasons?

I will be buying 2 when they become available on the 27th.

Bill Maier

I have bought mules since the XHP one and will most likely buy one of these. I just wish I had more opportunity to carry them. If it turns out to be a slightly more corrosion resistant D2 I will be happy.

Thank you Kristi! I suppose Mule MT20 is made in Golden. Are you able to confirm?
I need this information for data base in Spydiewiki

I'll be buying one. I cant seem to pass one by. I wasnt to taken by the CTS-B70P at first but I'm starting to warm up to it.

QUICKSILVER wrote:The steel is very similar in composition to CTS75P used in Mule Team 15.
CTS70P 1.10 C, 0.40 Mn, 0.025 Max. Ph, 0.01 Max. S, 0.30 Si, 14.00 Cr, 2.00 Mo, 0.25 Nb, 1.00 V, Bal. Fe
CTS75P 1.15 C, 0.5 Mn, 0.30 Si, 14.4 Cr, 3.95 Mo, 1.25 V, 80.45 Fe
There is less of every alloy element except Silicon with the addition of 0.25% niobium. Most of them are reduced just a little but the Vanadium is about halved.
I wonder how it will compare to MT15? Sal, what was the rational for this steel? Are edge retention, toughness or corrosion resistance improved? Or is it cheaper or easier to process with similar performance? Other reasons?
I will be buying 2 when they become available on the 27th.
Bill Maier

I think you meant that the Molybdenum is about halved. Other than that a pinch of the Vanadium was replaced with Niobium. I think of it as an updated version of BG42, kind of like S35VN is an updated version of S30V.

Mine are ordered!

TedP

Does anyone know where these are being manufactured?

Grrr. The Spyderco web site locked my account.

I so wish it was unified with this forum so that I didn't have to keep trying to re-re-re-remember a password I never use (and which doesn't have the same requirements as the password for this forum, so I can't use the same one).

Looks like I'll be missing out on this one unless I can get my account unlocked.

Peter1960 wrote:Thank you Kristi! I suppose Mule MT20 is made in Golden. Are you able to confirm?
I need this information for data base in Spydiewiki

Hi Peter,
The MT20P is made in Taiwan.


Kristi

TomAiello wrote:Grrr. The Spyderco web site locked my account.

I so wish it was unified with this forum so that I didn't have to keep trying to re-re-re-remember a password I never use (and which doesn't have the same requirements as the password for this forum, so I can't use the same one).

Looks like I'll be missing out on this one unless I can get my account unlocked.

Hi Tom,
The lockout is a security measure to keep all of our customers accounts safe. On the screen that told you your account was locked there was an option to "Click Here" for the form required to contact us to have your account unlocked. Were you able to complete that form? Please check your e-mail for additional info.

Thanks.

Kristi

2 ordered & shipped.

Bill Maier

Why is it called the MT-20P instead of just MT-20?

Actually it is MT20. If you do a search on MT-20, MT20P or MT-20P you get no results at the Spyderco store. Normally the P stands for plain in the model #. So I guess the answer is who ever assigned the model # decided the P was not necessary since all mules are plain, not spyderedge.

So if you want to order one, you need to search for MT20.

Bill Maier