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Spyderco's Taichung (Taiwan) Folders

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:00 pm
by RamZar
Spyderco's Taichung (Taiwan) Folders are amongst my favorite and arguably amongst the highest quality in the world. Great designs, craftsmanship, quality, collaborations and materials.

Here's an alphabetical list of the Spyderco Taichung folders (except for Dealer/Distributor Exclusives & Sprint Runs) along with designations on whether UPCOMING or DISCONTINUED otherwise they're CURRENT products:

  1. Advocate (DISCONTINUED)
  2. Air by Gayle Bradley (DISCONTINUED)
  3. Amalgam CPM-S30V CF/G-10 Laminate (CURRENT)
  4. Bombshell CPM-20CV Flash Batch (DISCONTINUED)
  5. Brouwer CPM-S30V Titanium G-10 (DISCONTINUED)
  6. Canis CPM-S30V Carbon Fiber/G-10 Laminate (CURRENT)
  7. Caribbean Salt LC200N Leaf PlainEdge Black/Yellow G-10 (CURRENT)
  8. Caribbean Salt LC200N Leaf SpyderEdge Black/Yellow G-10 (DISCONTINUED)
  9. Caribbean Salt LC200N Sheepsfoot PlainEdge Black/Yellow G-10 (CURRENT)
  10. Caribbean Salt LC200N Sheepsfoot SpyderEdge Black/Yellow G-10 (DISCONTINUED)
  11. Chaparral S30V Carbon Fiber/G-10 Laminate (DISCONTINUED)
  12. Chaparral CTS-XHP Carbon Fiber/G-10 Laminate (DISCONTINUED)
  13. Chaparral CTS-XHP Titanium (DISCONTINUED)
  14. Chaparral CTS-XHP Stepped Titanium (DISCONTINUED)
  15. Chaparral CTS-XHP Blue Stepped Titanium (DISCONTINUED)
  16. Chaparral Sun & Moon CTS-XHP White G-10 (Red G-10 Inlay) & Black G-10 (Mother-of-Pearl Inlay) (DISCONTINUED)
  17. Chaparral CTS-XHP Raffir Noble Composite Scales (CURRENT)
  18. Chaparral CTS-XHP Birdseye Maple (CURRENT)
  19. Chaparral CTS-XHP Gray FRN (CURRENT)
  20. Chaparral Lightweight CTS-XHP SpyderEdge Gray FRN (UPCOMING)
  21. Chokwe (DISCONTINUED)
  22. Chubby (DISCONTINUED)
  23. Des Horn (DISCONTINUED)
  24. Dice (DISCONTINUED)
  25. Dog Tag (DISCONTINUED)
  26. Dog Tag Black (DISCONTINUED)
  27. Dog Tag CF/G-10 (DISCONTINUED)
  28. Dog Tag 4 BD1 Aluminum (DISCONTINUED)
  29. Domino CTS-XHP / Black Cubic Check CF (DISCONTINUED)
  30. Drunken (CURRENT)
  31. EuroEdge (DISCONTINUED)
  32. Gayle Bradley (DISCONTINUED)
  33. Gayle Bradley 2 (CURRENT)
  34. Hanan CPM-S30V Polished G-10 Bolsters (DISCONTINUED)
  35. Hundred Pacer CTS-XHP Tan/Brown G-10 (DISCONTINUED)
  36. Hungarian (DISCONTINUED)
  37. Ikuchi (CURRENT)
  38. JaniSong (CURRENT)
  39. K2 (DISCONTINUED)
  40. Kapara (CURRENT)
  41. Lil’ Nilakka RWL-34 White Polished G-10 Flash Batch (DISCONTINUED)
  42. Lil' Sub-Hilt CPM-S30V Polished Black G-10 Bolsters (DISCONTINUED)
  43. Magnitude (DISCONTINUED)
  44. Mamba (DISCONTINUED)
  45. Mantra (DISCONTINUED)
  46. Mantra 2 (DISCONTINUED)
  47. Mantra3 CPM-S30V CF/G-10 Laminate (DISCONTINUED)
  48. McBee (CURRENT)
  49. Myrtle (DISCONTINUED)
  50. Navaja (DISCONTINUED)
  51. Nilakka (DISCONTINUED)
  52. Nirvana (DISCONTINUED)
  53. One-Eyed Jack CPM-S30V Polished White G-10 (DISCONTINUED)
  54. Paysan CPM-S90V Titanium (DISCONTINUED)
  55. Perrin PPT (DISCONTINUED)
  56. Pochi CPM-S45VN Titanium (DISCONTINUED)
  57. Positron CF (DISCONTINUED)
  58. Positron Orange G-10 (DISCONTINUED)
  59. Rhino CTS-XHP Peel Ply CF/G-10 Laminate (DISCONTINUED)
  60. Rubicon (DISCONTINUED)
  61. Rubicon2 CF/G-10 Laminate (DISCONTINUED)
  62. Sage 1 Maxamet Cool Gray G-10 (DISCONTINUED)
  63. Sage 1 LinerLock CF/G-10 Laminate (DISCONTINUED)
  64. Sage 2 Reeve Integral Lock Titanium (DISCONTINUED)
  65. Sage 3 Bolt Action Lock Blue G-10 (DISCONTINUED)
  66. Sage 3 Bolt Action Lock CF/G-10 Laminate (DISCONTINUED)
  67. Sage 4 Mid Back Lock Arizonian Ironwood / Titanium Bolsters (DISCONTINUED)
  68. Sage 5 Compression Lock Textured CF/G-10 Laminate (DISCONTINUED)
  69. Sage 5 Compression Lock FRN (CURRENT)
  70. Sage5 Lightweight Maxamet Gray FRN (CURRENT)
  71. Schempp Bowie (DISCONTINUED)
  72. Sliverax CPM-S30V CF/G-10 (DISCONTINUED)
  73. Slysz Bowie (DISCONTINUED)
  74. Smock CPM-S30V CF/G-10 Laminate (CURRENT)
  75. Southard Earth-Brown G-10 (DISCONTINUED)
  76. Southard Black Blade Black G-10 (DISCONTINUED)
  77. SpydieChef (CURRENT)
  78. Squarehead CPM-S30V Titanium (DISCONTINUED)
  79. Squarehead CTS-BD1 Black FRN (DISCONTINUED)
  80. Squarehead CTS-BD1 Gray FRN (DISCONTINUED)
  81. Stovepipe CPM-20CV Titanium RIL (CURRENT)
  82. Subvert (DISCONTINUED)
  83. Swayback CTS-XHP Titanium (DISCONTINUED)
  84. Szabo (DISCONTINUED)
  85. Szabo Black (DISCONTINUED)
  86. Techno CTS-XHP (DISCONTINUED)
  87. Techno S30V (DISCONTINUED)
  88. Techno2 CTS-XHP Titanium (CURRENT)
  89. Terzuola SLIPIT (DISCONTINUED)
  90. Tighe Stick (DISCONTINUED)
  91. Tropen (DISCONTINUED)
  92. Tuff (DISCONTINUED)
  93. Tusk (DISCONTINUED)
  94. Vallotton (CURRENT)
  95. Vrango (DISCONTINUED)
  96. Watu CPM-20CV CF/G-10 Laminate C251CFP (DISCONTINUED)
  97. Zulu (DISCONTINUED)

Re: Spyderco's Taichung (Taiwan) Folders

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:14 pm
by Blerv
Great list :). Only thing to consider is some of the Taiwaineese Spyderco knives (as I understand) aren't made in the same shop that puts out knives like the Gayle Bradley and Sage line. Earlier Cat/Chicago and Salsa's for example. That and the Sage1 is still in production.

Re: Spyderco's Taichung (Taiwan) Folders

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:19 pm
by 3rdGenRigger
They certainly are in a different league of fit and finish...every Spyderco I've seen and handled is very good and the margin isn't large, but I'd definitely say it's noticeable at least in my Taichung Spydies. I'm VERY anxious to purchase a Schempp Bowie.

Re: Spyderco's Taichung (Taiwan) Folders

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:21 pm
by RamZar
Blerv wrote:Great list :). Only thing to consider is some of the Taiwaineese Spyderco knives (as I understand) aren't made in the same shop that puts out knives like the Gayle Bradley and Sage line. Earlier Cat/Chicago and Salsa's for example. That and the Sage1 is still in production.
Are you saying that the earlier Cat, Chicago and Salsa folders are not up to par with the current Taiwan offerings?

I have the Sage 1 listed as in production. It's the Sage 3 with Blue G-10 that has been discontinued in favor of the Sage 3 CF/G-10 laminate.

Re: Spyderco's Taichung (Taiwan) Folders

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:25 pm
by Blerv
RamZar wrote:Are you saying that the earlier Cat, Chicago and Salsa folders are not up to par with the current Taiwan offerings?
Not by a long-shot. The earlier cat/chicago were pulled due to quality issues. Knives like the GB and Sage line are world class, IMHO.
RamZar wrote:I have the Sage 1 listed as in production. It's the Sage 3 with Blue G-10 that has been discontinued in favor of the Sage 3 CF/G-10 laminate.
Oops, my bad. :o

Re: Spyderco's Taichung (Taiwan) Folders

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:29 pm
by RamZar
Blerv wrote: The earlier cat/chicago were pulled due to quality issues.
Were those the Cat/Chicago ones in 440C/G-10 or the discontinued S30V/CF ones?

Re: Spyderco's Taichung (Taiwan) Folders

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:33 pm
by Blerv
RamZar wrote:
Blerv wrote: The earlier cat/chicago were pulled due to quality issues.
Were those the Cat/Chicago ones in 440C/G-10 or the discontinued S30V/CF ones?
The earlier Cat and Chicago in CF/S30v. I've only heard great things about the quality of the new versions, although, I still don't know if they come from the Sage/GB (etc) maker. Someone else will have to chime in.

Still, I agree that generally my favorite knives come from Taiwan. Whoever is making them is/are doing a great job!

Re: Spyderco's Taichung (Taiwan) Folders

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:43 pm
by gull wing
My early Cat was not in the same league as the Sage 1, GB, etc.
No one that I know knows who made the early Cat. I do know there were several "oops" on both of mine(one I sent back).

Re: Spyderco's Taichung (Taiwan) Folders

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:17 pm
by yablanowitz
The early Cat and Chicago in S30V/CF were an experiment with a different maker than the one in Taichung that has earned respect. That maker was unable to deliver the quality of construction at the price point as I gather they had claimed they could. More of them failed QC than passed. There were literally hundreds of each at the seconds sale one year.

Re: Spyderco's Taichung (Taiwan) Folders

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:27 pm
by RamZar
My Cat & Chicago folders are of the 440C/G-10 variety so I'm safe.

What were the issues, if any, with the Salsa ones? They look like cute little folders with colors (titanium or aluminum handles), cobra hood and compression lock.

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Re: Spyderco's Taichung (Taiwan) Folders

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:43 pm
by MacLaren
The Vallotton & Domino I have must be made in the same Taichung factory, as both are pretty dang perfect. ;)

Re: Spyderco's Taichung (Taiwan) Folders

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:46 pm
by gbelleh
Yeah, the quality and craftsmanship of the Taichung made knives is unbelievable. They should be very proud of their work.

Re: Spyderco's Taichung (Taiwan) Folders

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:57 pm
by Blerv
RamZar wrote:My Cat & Chicago folders are of the 440C/G-10 variety so I'm safe.

What were the issues, if any, with the Salsa ones? They look like cute little folders with colors (titanium or aluminum handles), cobra hood and compression lock.
There is nothing "wrong" with them. I don't recall they were ever pulled like the early Cat/Chicago/Bushcraft burl, etc. They just don't stack up to the maker who is producing the top-tier Taichung knives. Those knives rival some semi-custom makers.

Re: Spyderco's Taichung (Taiwan) Folders

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:58 pm
by RamZar
Blerv wrote:
RamZar wrote:My Cat & Chicago folders are of the 440C/G-10 variety so I'm safe.

What were the issues, if any, with the Salsa ones? They look like cute little folders with colors (titanium or aluminum handles), cobra hood and compression lock.
There is nothing "wrong" with them. I don't recall they were ever pulled like the early Cat/Chicago/Bushcraft burl, etc. They just don't stack up to the maker who is producing the top-tier Taichung knives. Those knives rival some semi-custom makers.
Got it.

Re: Spyderco's Taichung (Taiwan) Folders

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:02 pm
by The Deacon
AFAIK, everything on that list except the Cat, Chicago, Salsa, and S, were (or are) made by the folks in Taichung. Those four were/are made by another maker in Taiwan.

Re: Spyderco's Taichung (Taiwan) Folders

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:20 pm
by RamZar
The Deacon wrote:AFAIK, everything on that list except the Cat, Chicago, Salsa, and S, were (or are) made by the folks in Taichung. Those four were/are made by another maker in Taiwan.
Obviously, all Salsa, "S" and the S30V/CF Cat & Chicago folders have been discontinued.

My question is whether ALL current Spyderco Taiwan folders (including the Cat & Chicago 440C/G-10) are being manufactured at the same quality Taichung factory?

Re: Spyderco's Taichung (Taiwan) Folders

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:14 pm
by Jay_Ev
Salsa fanatic here.

Although the Salsa was made in Taiwan, it was made in Taipei, a city which is not to be confused with Taichung. These two cities are over 100 miles apart.

Re: Spyderco's Taichung (Taiwan) Folders

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:22 pm
by gbelleh
RamZar wrote:My question is whether ALL current Spyderco Taiwan folders (including the Cat & Chicago 440C/G-10) are being manufactured at the same quality Taichung factory?
It's my understanding that the Cat and Chicago are not made in the Taichung workshop. They are not marked Taichung, and there is a noticeable difference (IMO) in build. Not that the Cat/Chicago are bad at all. Just not the amazing custom quality work that comes out of Taichung. Again, nothing wrong with the Cat/Chicago. I love my Cats.

Re: Spyderco's Taichung (Taiwan) Folders

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:31 pm
by Molle Ninja
Nice job on the list. I have several of these and agree about their quality.

Chokwe--kind of bummed the lock sticks and is wearing with such little opening.
Techno--one of my all-time favorites.
Zulu--beautiful Anso style and Spydie quality. Surprised more people aren't in love with this one like I am, though I am afraid to sharpen it.

Buying the Slysz Bowie and Southard (finally) ASAP.

Hoping the Southard Ion is a-go, too, and that it's what I imagine it to be.

Re: Spyderco's Taichung (Taiwan) Folders

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:35 pm
by PayneTrain
Don't forget the Mules! Couldn't tell you which ones off the top of my head, but I know at least 18 and 19 are Taichungian. I'll look it up...

Edit: Ok, looks like just those two.