Sequels to our favorite movies, good or bad?
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Sequels to our favorite movies, good or bad?
I spent much of my childhood and youthful years in the 1980s and 1990s, and I always liked movies like Back to the Future, GhostBusters, and Indiana Jones. I know the Indy Jones sequels finally came to a nice end, but, do you think it is good if they produce sequels to any of these, such as a Back to the Future 4, or a Ghost Busters 4? You always see talk of it and now you have fans who make home made mock videos of trailers to these not yet officially made films.
But what do you all think? Would it be lame if they tried to make more and more sequels to some of these?
But what do you all think? Would it be lame if they tried to make more and more sequels to some of these?
I think sometimes too much time has passed to make a sequel. Example, with Michael J. Fox having Parkinson's and being so much older, I can't see him doing another BTTF and I would absolutely boycott any sequel that he isn't part of. Ghostbusters, I dunno all those guys are still around but much older, I think there might be potential there if done right. I would just love to see Dan Aykroyd and Bill Murray in another movie together. Personally as far as sequels go I've always wanted to see the Mad Max trilogy expanded on, but I think Mel Gibson is too big time to stoop to that level again, and if they did make another one they'd try to make a huge blockbuster out of it and ruin the grittiness of it.
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No. Its too late too make any that are worth our time. Hollywood needs to get its creative juices flowing again. It really is lacking in the creativity department as of late.
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The only reason it semi caught my eye is because of Joel Kinnaman. Guy is a great actor.Revival wrote:I think its possible but only with certain movies. Some movies should be left alone. Remakes on the other hand are interesting. Robocop looks new and improved but haven't seen it so I don't know.
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Spider-Man 2LC Kid wrote:Hi Folks!
Well, you know what they say in Hollywood: never a sequel was a good one. :rolleyes: With very few exceptions, were the second one was even better than the first, like Terminator 2 o The Dark Knight, that is an absolute true for film industry.
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Unfortunately not all of the Ghost Buster's crew is still around. Harold Ramis was both an actor and writer for the movies and he just passed away last month. I believe there were plans to make another Ghost Busters movie, but I don't know if that will happen now.Evil D wrote:I think sometimes too much time has passed to make a sequel. Example, with Michael J. Fox having Parkinson's and being so much older, I can't see him doing another BTTF and I would absolutely boycott any sequel that he isn't part of. Ghostbusters, I dunno all those guys are still around but much older, I think there might be potential there if done right. I would just love to see Dan Aykroyd and Bill Murray in another movie together. Personally as far as sequels go I've always wanted to see the Mad Max trilogy expanded on, but I think Mel Gibson is too big time to stoop to that level again, and if they did make another one they'd try to make a huge blockbuster out of it and ruin the grittiness of it.
A Mad Max sequel is one that I would like to see. I know Mel Gibson doesn't need to do another one, but I think there is a lot of potential for post apocalyptic entertainment.
Realistically, most sequels aren't as good as the original and some are just plain terrible.
I'm still waiting on the third Kill Bill.
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Sequels can certainly be done well: the second Godfather comes immediately to mind. In general though, the major studios just take the elements that they think made the originals popular and amplify them, usually with disastrous results (see—or better yet, don't—both Matrix sequels).
I can't disagree with the lack of creativity in Hollywood argument, but there's another reason for pumping out pointless sequels and remakes: when the name of the movie carries automatic recognition with a good chunk of the ticket-buying public, the new one is guaranteed an automatic audience. ("Hey, there's a new ___ out. I saw the original when I was a kid!") It's far easier for studios to generate interest in a movie when the public already has some familiarity with it. And it's only when the creators have a feel for their material, and care about it (the most recent Batman sequels, for example) that the results are good.
As for the Kill Bill sequel: Tarantino will probably never make it , but I'd love to see a story about what happens when Vernita Green's daughter (who'd be a teenager by now) seeks revenge on The Bride for the death of her mother. Seems like the scene from Vol 1 even laid the groundwork for that to happen.
I can't disagree with the lack of creativity in Hollywood argument, but there's another reason for pumping out pointless sequels and remakes: when the name of the movie carries automatic recognition with a good chunk of the ticket-buying public, the new one is guaranteed an automatic audience. ("Hey, there's a new ___ out. I saw the original when I was a kid!") It's far easier for studios to generate interest in a movie when the public already has some familiarity with it. And it's only when the creators have a feel for their material, and care about it (the most recent Batman sequels, for example) that the results are good.
As for the Kill Bill sequel: Tarantino will probably never make it , but I'd love to see a story about what happens when Vernita Green's daughter (who'd be a teenager by now) seeks revenge on The Bride for the death of her mother. Seems like the scene from Vol 1 even laid the groundwork for that to happen.
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Agreed.Prof68 wrote:Sequels can certainly be done well: the second Godfather comes immediately to mind. In general though, the major studios just take the elements that they think made the originals popular and amplify them, usually with disastrous results (see—or better yet, don't—both Matrix sequels).
I can't disagree with the lack of creativity in Hollywood argument, but there's another reason for pumping out pointless sequels and remakes: when the name of the movie carries automatic recognition with a good chunk of the ticket-buying public, the new one is guaranteed an automatic audience. ("Hey, there's a new ___ out. I saw the original when I was a kid!") It's far easier for studios to generate interest in a movie when the public already has some familiarity with it. And it's only when the creators have a feel for their material, and care about it (the most recent Batman sequels, for example) that the results are good.
As for the Kill Bill sequel: Tarantino will probably never make it , but I'd love to see a story about what happens when Vernita Green's daughter (who'd be a teenager by now) seeks revenge on The Bride for the death of her mother. Seems like the scene from Vol 1 even laid the groundwork for that to happen.
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Just my 2 cents. B they shouldn't have made a fourth Indiana. Too much time passed among other things. Heck, the third was called the last crusade, which implied the last movie.
Ghostbusters lost Harold Ramis recently, and last I heard, Bill Murray didn't want to do a third.
Sometimes things should just be left alone. Like when they remake a classic. Just watch the classic! No need to remake a movie that was perfect the first time.
If they're going to remake a movie, they sshould remake movies that flopped but started out with a great concept.
Ghostbusters lost Harold Ramis recently, and last I heard, Bill Murray didn't want to do a third.
Sometimes things should just be left alone. Like when they remake a classic. Just watch the classic! No need to remake a movie that was perfect the first time.
If they're going to remake a movie, they sshould remake movies that flopped but started out with a great concept.
They should have stopped with the Indiana Jones films after The Temple of Doom. The other films were crap. Especially the last one with all that Sci-Fi nonsense tossed in.SpyderEdgeForever wrote:I spent much of my childhood and youthful years in the 1980s and 1990s, and I always liked movies like Back to the Future, GhostBusters, and Indiana Jones. I know the Indy Jones sequels finally came to a nice end, but, do you think it is good if they produce sequels to any of these, such as a Back to the Future 4, or a Ghost Busters 4? You always see talk of it and now you have fans who make home made mock videos of trailers to these not yet officially made films.
Ironically, I was a fan of the Young Indiana Jones TV series. Somewhere in his adventures, Indy losses an eye. He's shown as an elderly man several times in the series. By that late age, he's sporting an eye-patch. Guess we'll never get to see the adventure in which he lost his left eye I believe it was.
Look at the Matrix. First one was great! By the time they were done with it, they had thoroughly $#!% all over the innovative and unique concept.
All Hollyweird cares about now is $$$$$$$$$$$$.
That's why we get re-makes all over the place. That's why sequels get released even if a good story-line is missing. That's why even crappier Prequels get made when they really have no clue how to make a sequel.
I'm surprised they haven't made a sequel to "Titanic." (You know it wasn't for lack of trying.)
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I liked the first Matrix movie, but IMO they should have ended it there. The two sequels were awful.
I loved Back To The Future 1 & 3, but not the second installment.
Aliens (1986) is a perfect example of a sequel that surpassed the original, but again, IMO, they should have stopped there.
The original A Nightmare on Elm Street should never have had sequels (nor the remake, for that matter).
The first two Terminator movies were excellent, and should have stopped there.
I loved the first and third Indiana Jones films. Not the second one, though.
I'd go for a third Kill Bill installment. Would it still be Kill Bill, though, with Bill already dead? Maybe change the title to Killed Bill, or Kill The Bride(?). Speaking of the Bill character, although he had great dialogue, I found him disappointing overall. He was made out to be this mysterious, fearsome, boogieman-type figure, but in the end he turned out to be passive (or passive-aggressive) and weak...all talk and no go.
The original Texas Chainsaw Massacre should never have had sequels, and IMO never should have been remade. The remake needed heaps of gore, but the original succeeded in being disturbing while only HINTING at blood and gore, but not actually showing anything graphic. That takes a lot more skill than over-the-top gorefests. Not to mention that the original had interesting characters, which the remake totally lacked.
I loved Back To The Future 1 & 3, but not the second installment.
Aliens (1986) is a perfect example of a sequel that surpassed the original, but again, IMO, they should have stopped there.
The original A Nightmare on Elm Street should never have had sequels (nor the remake, for that matter).
The first two Terminator movies were excellent, and should have stopped there.
I loved the first and third Indiana Jones films. Not the second one, though.
I'd go for a third Kill Bill installment. Would it still be Kill Bill, though, with Bill already dead? Maybe change the title to Killed Bill, or Kill The Bride(?). Speaking of the Bill character, although he had great dialogue, I found him disappointing overall. He was made out to be this mysterious, fearsome, boogieman-type figure, but in the end he turned out to be passive (or passive-aggressive) and weak...all talk and no go.
The original Texas Chainsaw Massacre should never have had sequels, and IMO never should have been remade. The remake needed heaps of gore, but the original succeeded in being disturbing while only HINTING at blood and gore, but not actually showing anything graphic. That takes a lot more skill than over-the-top gorefests. Not to mention that the original had interesting characters, which the remake totally lacked.
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I like all of the Godfather movies. I can't think of another set where I liked each movie in a series. Seems to m they get worse most of the time. Not always.
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I like watching the Lethal Weapon movies even though the authenticity of cops is insulting. Good entertainment. Don knotts made the Andy Griffith show IMO. Kramer made Sienfield IMO. And Joe Pesci made the Lethal Weapon movies. About any actor could have played Gibson and Glover's parts. I can't think of anyone who could have done a better job in Leo Getts' part. :)
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