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peter herbst

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 12:00 am
by fredswartz
I posted this question on Knife Forums but didn't get an answer. I can get a super deal on a Peter Herbst folder with aluminum handles etc. On another web site for $20 more I can get a newer version with VG10 steel and titanium blades. Any opinions? Is is worth the $20? I just signed up here so excuse me if I'm missing something?

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 3:30 pm
by travis quaas
Fredswartz,
Not a problem. First, welcome to the <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> Forum. There are wonderful people here to advise you about anything <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> and more! There have been some discussion already about the steel between one knife to the next. People have preferences. This is key. What works for one person doesn't for the next. Take the following for instance.

While I was in the Military (GO NAVY!!!) the salt air and moisture reaked havoc on a lot of my multi-tools and knives. So, now comes the knowledge (or so I call it! ;P). VG-10 has some nice qualities. The edge retention and corrosion resistance are at high ratings. But, if you prefer a better edge retention, you should go for the CPM 440V steel. Some folks already mentioned that it is not as easy to sharpen a CPM 440V in comparasion to many other steels, maybe because of brittleness of the steel. With all that said, I have always noticed when buying yet another <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>, I am usually looking for the VG-10 Steel. Just my opinion...

tq

PS again, welcome to the <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> forum!

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 8:23 pm
by cmassicotte
Fredswartz - Welcome to the forum. Lots of good Spydie info here, for sure.

I would go with VG-10 and Titanium handles. I didn't even know that there was a Ti handled model. I would love to get one of those.
Can you share that website?
Chuck

There is no right way to do a wrong thing

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 8:38 pm
by Carlos
It isn't a titanium handle -- it is titanium coloured Almite. Only the Solingen models had Ti handles.

Edited by - Carlos on 10/25/2002 8:39:38 PM

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 1:39 am
by voxnaes
Welcome to the land of c<img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0><img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>l bugs, stick around!!
I think you should go for the VG-10 and almite, if you have the extra $!
Vox.


Repeat the mantra - "Spydie is good, Round is all - Life is Round, Life is Good, Spydie is Life is Round is LIfe. Round and Round, and Round forever." (Chuck.)

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 6:38 am
by fredswartz
Au Contrair Carlos: Check out this web site.
If it is correct, the older model had Alemite scales. http://store.knifecenter.com/pgi-ProductSpec?SP53P

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 6:44 am
by fredswartz
and.......... Copied from the same web site:

"Peter Herbst Design
Newly re-introduced, these are now made in Japan. Spyderco's first German collaboration. Peter Herbst integrates high tech components with Old World craftsmanship".

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 7:29 am
by AllenETreat
Hey fredswartz :

I say go with what you can afford ; I have the Herbst in ATS-55 and almite handle(s)<img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
Mine was $95 plus shipping from forumite
glasshartt ( she could probably get you one in VG-10 for the same price <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>) E-mail her :

GlassHartt@aol.com

Her name's Linda & she's basically a Law Enforcement distributor, but does the forum
a TREMENDOUS service selling Spydies to us below the MSRP <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

ATE <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 12:07 pm
by recoil
a bit of Herbst history:

The original run had titanium handles with blue annodizing in the inset design. Blades were 440C and marked Solingen. these were made in Germany and when they did not meet the strict Spyderco quality control a large number were scrapped. Possibly only 200 - 300 ever distributed making this original model rare & highly prized by collectors.

Next came the aluminum handle version with the ats-55 blade steel made in Japan

This was followed by the current aluminum handled version VG-10 version made in Japan.

hope this helps.
Original pictured below.
dave

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 12:23 pm
by cmassicotte
fred - I'm not sure about the VG-10 or the Ti handles - I note that the picture at Knife Center is a collectors edition (variant) and the blade is ATS-55. Also, the Spyderco Website still shows ATS-55 as the blade steel. You might give the Knife Center a call to confirm that the knifes are indeed VG-10. If they are, I would get the VG-10 over the ATS-555 whether or not the handles are Titanium.
Good luck on your search.
Chuck


There is no right way to do a wrong thing

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 2:01 pm
by dialex
Hi Fred, welcome aboard. The VG10 is a great steel, easy to sharpen and with a very good edge retention. Makes a great assortment with some Ti scales and IMO it worth the extra 20$.
<marquee loop=infinite ><a href="http://users.pcnet.ro/dialex"><font color=blue>(my webpage)</font></a></marquee>

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 4:28 pm
by jaxon
Alex,

Awesome website.<img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>

Jaxon

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 4:40 pm
by Al
They are in VG-10, as I bought one from knifecenter.

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 6:05 pm
by fredswartz
Al, did your knife also have the Ti handles as advertised?
Jerry

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 6:53 pm
by Al
Hi Fred and welcome to the forum ~ According to the knifecenter specs, it should be - but as Carlos has pointed out it is Titanium coloured Almite scales but it's definitely a VG-10 blade.
<a href="http://store.knifecenter.com/pgi-Produc ... 53P">Peter Herbst PE</a>

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 7:19 pm
by fredswartz
Will probably order one Monday. Score 1 for Carlos/ zero for Knife center ad.